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I have promethazine pills, and I vaguely remember someone saying promethazine is abusable. Is this true? How much should I take?

I believe Promethazine is commonly found in codeine-based cough syrup and can potentiate the effects of opiates, but I'm not sure if it's any good by itself

[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;30693520]I believe Promethazine is commonly found in codeine-based cough syrup and can potentiate the effects of opiates, but I'm not sure if it's any good by itself[/QUOTE] Yeah i did a little research on erowid and i'd just throw up if I took a lot of it by itself.

is it weird if music sounds.. different.. even after 2 days off of ecstasy? I was listening to music the whole time, and had a bit of a trip for a bit, I was so into my music. It was my first time rolling btw... Is this weird/am I just thinking it's different? [editline]27th June 2011[/editline] Note, music is probably the one thing I enjoy the most in life, playing and listening, could that effect the way I feel while rolling?

Audiophile syndrome.

Whats a lethal dose of DPH? I've already done 100-800mg many times. I just have fear of the 1000 number. I keep thinking 1000 will kill me.

[QUOTE=Hap;30627095]Jesus. I wish I could get $58 for an eighth.[/QUOTE] really? that sounds ridiculous id never pay over 30 for dank

[QUOTE=Mac2468;30734579]Audiophile syndrome.[/QUOTE] Could you explain.. I can't find anything on this :v: [editline]27th June 2011[/editline] Music just seems, deeper and more clear.

[QUOTE=t0cketty;30734835]Whats a lethal dose of DPH? I've already done 100-800mg many times. I just have fear of the 1000 number. I keep thinking 1000 will kill me.[/QUOTE] From what I can find: In rats a single oral dose of 0.6e6 IU/kg is the median lethal dose for DPH. I've also read that 1.5g can kill you. I hear under 1000 is your best bet. I'd stick with what you're doing.

Didn't lipsonfire do 1200mg? It fucked him up though.

So whenever I get high it's always kinda marred by the amount of lung raping coughing going on. Doesn't matter if I use my pipe or a bong, I just get wrecked by coughing so much, often almost vomiting. Does that get better with time or am I doing something wrong?

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30789889]So whenever I get high it's always kinda marred by the amount of lung raping coughing going on. Doesn't matter if I use my pipe or a bong, I just get wrecked by coughing so much, often almost vomiting. Does that get better with time or am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE] are you like inhaling a retarded amount and holding it in for like 30 seconds or something?

I try to keep the hits small so there's less lung rape, and I never hold them for longer than like 5 seconds, assuming I can even manage to hold it at all instead of just coughing my lungs out.

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30790354]I try to keep the hits small so there's less lung rape, and I never hold them for longer than like 5 seconds, assuming I can even manage to hold it at all instead of just coughing my lungs out.[/QUOTE] do you have any health problems like asthma?

[QUOTE=Rooster Assassin;30735031]Could you explain.. I can't find anything on this :v: [editline]27th June 2011[/editline] Music just seems, deeper and more clear.[/QUOTE] It's basically gaining appreciation for quality.

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30790354]I try to keep the hits small so there's less lung rape, and I never hold them for longer than like 5 seconds, assuming I can even manage to hold it at all instead of just coughing my lungs out.[/QUOTE] Just an idea.. Use a screen in your pipe/bong and only load a tiny hits worth of weed. Then smoke a lot of those.

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30790354]I try to keep the hits small so there's less lung rape, and I never hold them for longer than like 5 seconds, assuming I can even manage to hold it at all instead of just coughing my lungs out.[/QUOTE] um, was this your first couple times because ive only smoked 3 times and the first was pretty rough (because well i didnt know how) and the second was slightly better, still coughed a lot, and third time was the easiest, so i guess you get better at it. Hint, smoke a little on the first hit, dont breathe in to hard or fast. Then progressively let more in.

So, I'm gonna try to make things a little more interesting. I'm planning on taking two hits of acid at a rave in a few weeks. I've taken acid five times now, each time at a rave, and I handled myself well enough, but I've only ever taken single hits. I'm wondering if anyone has had enough experience with acid that they can tell me the main differences between taking a single hit and taking two hits at once, 'cause I know that it doesn't just "double the effects." And of course, whether or not this is a good or bad idea.

[QUOTE=Furioso;30796224]So, I'm gonna try to make things a little more interesting. I'm planning on taking two hits of acid at a rave in a few weeks. I've taken acid five times now, each time at a rave, and I handled myself well enough, but I've only ever taken single hits. I'm wondering if anyone has had enough experience with acid that they can tell me the main differences between taking a single hit and taking two hits at once, 'cause I know that it doesn't just "double the effects." And of course, whether or not this is a good or bad idea.[/QUOTE] It's a fine idea. You'll probably just end up having more fun. Judging by your avatar, I'm guessing you're a Thompson fan. He wrote in his Hells Angels book about bikers taking far more than 100 times the average amount of LSD you'd find in a hit nowadays (and surviving). You'll totally be ok.

[QUOTE=Hap;30796260]It's a fine idea. You'll probably just end up having more fun. Judging by your avatar, I'm guessing you're a Thompson fan. He wrote in his Hells Angels book about bikers taking far more than 100 times the average amount of LSD you'd find in a hit nowadays (and surviving). You'll totally be ok.[/QUOTE] I know I'll survive, I'm just concerned about what sort of effect it will have on me. :v: I have a bit of trouble socializing with people on acid, because I tend to overanalyze social situations and I become afraid of embarrassing myself when half the things I say come out as gibberish. I'm completely fine in my own mind, I just can't be social. I'm slightly concerned that two hits might just send me spiraling into my own mind, rendering myself unable to interact with others at all. [editline]30th June 2011[/editline] And at a rave, that would definitely be a detrimental thing. Also, yes, I'm quite the Thompson aficionado.

[QUOTE=Furioso;30796574]I know I'll survive, I'm just concerned about what sort of effect it will have on me. :v: I have a bit of trouble socializing with people on acid, because I tend to overanalyze social situations and I become afraid of embarrassing myself when half the things I say come out as gibberish. I'm completely fine in my own mind, I just can't be social. I'm slightly concerned that two hits might just send me spiraling into my own mind, rendering myself unable to interact with others at all.[/QUOTE] Gosh, I don't think I have a good answer for that question/problem. I also have social issues with acid, mostly just get verbal diarrhea - to the point where the filter/barrier between my brain and my mouth just completely disintegrates. Though, I can tell you that I've accidentally taken 2x the amount of acid I had intended, and that the effects weren't even close to being terrifying or anxiety-inducing. More than anything, I just had a bunch of fun. Also, consider the fact that LSD production is so free-wheeling at this point that - depending on where you get your acid from - the actual LSD mcg content in a single tab is pretty likely to vary hugely.. to the point where you might've already taken twice the amount of LSD you're used to having (or even more) without realizing it.

[QUOTE=Hap;30796682]Gosh, I don't think I have a good answer for that question/problem. I also have social issues with acid, mostly just get verbal diarrhea - to the point where the filter/barrier between my brain and my mouth just completely disintegrates. Though, I can tell you that I've accidentally taken 2x the amount of acid I had intended, and that the effects weren't even close to being terrifying or anxiety-inducing. More than anything, I just had a bunch of fun. Also, consider the fact that LSD production is so free-wheeling at this point that - depending on where you get your acid from - the actual LSD mcg content in a single tab is pretty likely to vary hugely.. to the point where you might've already taken twice the amount of LSD you're used to having (or even more) without realizing it.[/QUOTE] Valid points. I think if I end up having too much trouble with being social, I'll just try to locate some weed to chill out or even MDMA to candyflip.

[QUOTE=Furioso;30796792]Valid points. I think if I end up having too much trouble with being social, I'll just try to locate some weed to chill out or even MDMA to candyflip.[/QUOTE] Haha yes, that's exactly the attitude that makes everything work on drugs. Like "If these drugs go bad, I'll just take more drugs!" I legitimately fucking love it. And as far at Thompson, which of his books is your favorite? Mine is between Hells Angels and Las Vegas. The Angels one is great because it makes me want to join a biker gang at the same time as it makes me want to NEVER join a biker gang, while Fear and Loathing is far more trippy and sort of weirdly more illuminating. I feel like sort of a tool considering Las Vegas my favorite just because it's the more "mainstream" Thompson book/movie to be aware of, plus the Hells Angels book is just ridiculously badass, so it's hard to resist..

[QUOTE=Hap;30796908]Haha yes, that's exactly the attitude that makes everything work on drugs. Like "If these drugs go bad, I'll just take more drugs!" I legitimately fucking love it. And as far at Thompson, which of his books is your favorite? Mine is between Hells Angels and Las Vegas. The Angels one is great because it makes me want to join a biker gang at the same time as it makes me want to NEVER join a biker gang, while Fear and Loathing is far more trippy and sort of weirdly more illuminating. I feel like sort of a tool considering Las Vegas my favorite just because it's the more "mainstream" Thompson book/movie to be aware of, plus the Hells Angels book is just ridiculously badass, so it's hard to resist..[/QUOTE] It's the attitude that makes everything work. :tiphat: My favorite's probably Las Vegas as well. I feel the same way about it, but knowing and understanding the deeper meaning behind the book through passages like the wave speech sets one aside from the people who only read and enjoy the book for the drugs alone. [editline]30th June 2011[/editline] Hunter has such a particular way of writing, I absolutely love it. I love all his books. I'm currently reading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, and while it has a lot of political ranting in it, it's still quite entertaining.

[QUOTE=plazzydan;30790538]do you have any health problems like asthma?[/QUOTE] No asthma, no problems with my lungs that I know about. [QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;30793604]um, was this your first couple times because ive only smoked 3 times and the first was pretty rough (because well i didnt know how) and the second was slightly better, still coughed a lot, and third time was the easiest, so i guess you get better at it. Hint, smoke a little on the first hit, dont breathe in to hard or fast. Then progressively let more in.[/QUOTE] I've smoked 6 times, usually small-ish hits to try to prevent coughing, and they've all been just as lung rapey. I do try to suck it all down fast though. Maybe I'll try breathing slower next time.

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30797952] I do try to suck it all down fast though.[/QUOTE] yup, theres your problem, i find that a big contributor to the lung rape, because the first time i smoked i sucked it in really hard and coughed for like 5 min non-stop. The other 2 times werent that bad. I usually deep breathe moments before taking the hit, exhaling then putting my mouth to the piece then slowly inhaling to like 90% lung capacity, take it away from my mouth and suck in a little more air to make sure its all in and hold it. Then again im more of a rookie so maybe someone else has more advice.

with a bong, milk it [b]slowly[/b] untill the smoke reaches ur lipes then clear the bong. with a pipe i prefer to take small puffs.

If I remember right, the coughing is caused by the smoke hitting the back of your throat, so maybe suck on a cough drop with a numbing agent before hitting it?

[QUOTE=TrouserDemon;30797952] I've smoked 6 times[/QUOTE] buh take hits the way you prefer them man, over time you'll find yourself being able to take hits without coughing i believe some people are able to get used to it than others, i know a guy who took huge bong hits daily for like a month and still coughed, i did it once a week for a month and already got used to it If you're getting completely raped, just try to focus on not coughing as hard as you can, because thats what gonna set off your gag reflex and make you feel like vomiting or making your throat feel really "sharp" when breathing, over time it'll get better and eventually you wont even notice it

[QUOTE=polarbear.;30810889]buh take hits the way you prefer them man, over time you'll find yourself being able to take hits without coughing i believe some people are able to get used to it than others, i know a guy who took huge bong hits daily for like a month and still coughed, i did it once a week for a month and already got used to it If you're getting completely raped, just try to focus on not coughing as hard as you can, because thats what gonna set off your gag reflex and make you feel like vomiting or making your throat feel really "sharp" when breathing, over time it'll get better and eventually you wont even notice it[/QUOTE] My brother has been smoking weed and legal blends for at least 5-6 years. To this day he still coughs like a newbie every time he smokes, and is unable to roll a joint. (yeah I know he's full of failure. He also has a triforce tattoo on his arm) [editline]30th June 2011[/editline] As for myself, I seldom cough (been smoking for ~*2 years) It took me maybe 3 months (around 10-15 sessions) to pace myself and be able to take big hits without wheezing like a biatch.