• Drum Discussion Thread v2: rlrrlrll
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Well, it was Letterman and not drum-channel :v:. Non-drummers get impressed by speed. On that note, Tony Royster actually has groove, but he seems to play his speed-card a litte too often.
i don't think i've seen Royster before so i'll take your word for it probably search some of his stuff later on. Pretty cool they do it though, those are some big names!
Gavin Harrison. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTcokoyn_HQ&feature=feedlik[/media]
now thats great, i just love all the small things he does while still keeping a solid beat, some speedy bits didn't appeal that much to me, but you're right, it's kind of part of making it come over as impressive isn't it. also talkbox drums.
Gotta have some chops to please the crowd you know. I find myself doing it on concerts, too.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;31851409]Blue stars. I've been home for a week now... it feels weird not drumming all day every day.[/QUOTE] yo i actually enjoyed your show this year, wasn't too big on the houdini shit last year. and at least you're not aging out, a Santa Clara drummer sat infront of me on the plane ride back and he looked like he was depressed.
bump it
RLRRLLRLRRLLRLRLRLRRLLRLRRLLRLRLR is fucking hard at fast speeds. The RLRLRL is what gets me. 16-17 in [url]http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6421/mcm2011.pdf[/url]
Just practice it slowly to a metronome and build up to a speed you feel comfortable/relaxed with and gradually increase. Also, Chris Fuckin' Coleman. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOCNfSGw3NY&feature=feedu[/media]
Played a terrific drum solo, not on camera etc... then I downloaded Phantom 2010 snare break. Time to learn that, I guess.
uggggh something came up. theres no way i can even imagine spending 1200 on a new kit in december. fuck.... high toms look like your my new drums till i go through college ride first though.... like i asked before do rides need to match as well? i want to get an HHX dry ride and idk if it matches my aax and xs20 cymbals
[QUOTE=gerbile5;32358839]uggggh something came up. theres no way i can even imagine spending 1200 on a new kit in december. fuck.... high toms look like your my new drums till i go through college ride first though.... like i asked before do rides need to match as well? i want to get an HHX dry ride and idk if it matches my aax and xs20 cymbals[/QUOTE] Actually, I think it's cool with different cymbals and crashes on a kit, as long as the ride sounds good. Apart from hi-hats, the ride is the most important cymbal on the kit(imo). I got my auxiliary snare today. A DDrum dominion series N maple snare. Sounds really great. I've also been hired as a snare/drum instructor for the local marching band. First time tutoring today. Hope the students are willing to practice their singles and doubles..
[QUOTE=Thaard;32164313] Also, Chris Fuckin' Coleman. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOCNfSGw3NY&feature=feedu[/media][/QUOTE] I saw him at a local drum festival some weeks ago, not only an amazing drummer, but a great bass player as well. Very chill dude, too.
[QUOTE=BassB;31265887]If you hit your cymbal at an angle of 90 degrees you're ruining your cymbals and sticks at a gigantic pace you dimwit.[/QUOTE] Who said you should beat it all the song? Are you blind? Did I say you should break your cymbals into a pieces or something? [QUOTE=BassB;31265887]I can't tell if you're trolling but with all respect I will seriously reply; that image was made by Paiste, one of the big three of cymbal creators they know literally everything about cymbals better than you, and they are telling you that thats the wrong way.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they're so cool you can suck their dicks, wouldn't ya? Again, did I say I know something about cymbals better than them? [QUOTE=BassB;31265887]Besides if you every played a drumkit you would know that hitting the cymbal like that equals taking a knife to your sticks, something that is not recommended. You should also know that the sound is basically non existant because it is so quiet.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, I didn't play drums for 5 years, I'm just sitting here and talking bullshit, bro, pass it. Now watch here, my "all knowing" friend. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCWS6Of7oo&t=7m44s[/url] Look at the drummer, if you haven't got it yet.
i've never seen a pro drummer who uses the swipe technique. you know why? because when you have cymbal endorsments and stick endorsments you don't give a fuck. back here in reality where someone like me can spend a months pay at my second job on a cymbal, it's a big fucking deal if you break one. even my instructor doesn't use that technique and he doesn't break them. but it's all about precaution and theory. in theory that technique puts the least amount of stress onto the cymbal.
It depends on how cymbals were made.
[QUOTE=joey;32443472]Who said you should beat it all the song? Are you blind? Did I say you should break your cymbals into a pieces or something?[/quote] even once is too much. and yes, by condoning a technique like that, you are kind of telling us to ruin our gear. not only bad for the cymbals, but also for the sticks. [quote] Yeah, they're so cool you can suck their dicks, wouldn't ya? Again, did I say I know something about cymbals better than them?[/quote] What. they say it's wrong, you say it's right. They're right, and you're wrong. [quote] Oh yeah, I didn't play drums for 5 years, I'm just sitting here and talking bullshit, bro, pass it. Now watch here, my "all knowing" friend. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCWS6Of7oo&t=7m44s[/url] Look at the drummer, if you haven't got it yet.[/QUOTE] Baker evidently doesn't exactly have good technique, also if he breaks anything he'll get a new one. get real. you've been playing drums for 5 years terribly "bro". also i'm not or will ever be your friend. now if it took you that long to muster up a shit reply like that, that's not even well constructed or supported, would you kindly get out. you're [B]wrong[/B]
joey, please stop with these stupid insulting reply's. Showing a concert video of mr. crack addict will not help your cause.
i'm probably going to have to sell my Pearl Paiste kit. my band is breaking up and i won't have enough room. breaks my heart really, i pieced it together over the years awesome thing. probably going to buy an alesis dm-10 with the money i get of that.
I would've bought at Roland kit. You get much more for your money, and they have top notch quality.
the dm10 has all mylar heads, so you get the real feel you know, i don't think roland offers kits with all mesh heads under a thousand euros, while i would agree that roland is great for electric kits. the module that comes with the dm10 is pretty cool too, pearl even used it for their e-pro kits, just rehoused. [img]http://www.alesis.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/22/41e69f6da2c68153a4b2987fa3869cc0/misc/dm10_module_front_med.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.drumwright.co.uk/media/content/redbox2.jpg[/img] lets just hope my kit sells for a decent amount first
[QUOTE=BassB;32487644]i'm probably going to have to sell my Pearl Paiste kit. my band is breaking up and i won't have enough room. breaks my heart really, i pieced it together over the years awesome thing. probably going to buy an alesis dm-10 with the money i get of that.[/QUOTE] why sell it? just downsize and keep the extra parts until you have space.....
i don't have room to keep a 22" bassdrum even. the electric kit folds/breaks up easier, and doesn't have the huge drums, i won't even have room for a three piece of my current kit. Also it makes less noise, isn't that big of an issue really, but it would make working together with other musicians easier because of midi and such. [editline]27th September 2011[/editline] it wasn't an easy decision, but it had to be made
[QUOTE=BassB;32454423]even once is too much. and yes, by condoning a technique like that, you are kind of telling us to ruin our gear. not only bad for the cymbals, but also for the sticks.[/QUOTE] Goddamnit, you got back to the beginning, I will not tell you again, just get back and read it. [QUOTE=BassB;32454423]What. they say it's wrong, you say it's right. They're right, and you're wrong.[/QUOTE] Man, are you a fuckdumb or something? Did you see a video, my explanation or you were fucked in the eyes or something? Are you blind? Read it again, man. Don't repeat random shit like "Ur wrong, they're right", "it breaks the cymbals and sticks", "you suck" [QUOTE=BassB;32454423]you've been playing drums for 5 years terribly "bro".[/QUOTE] How could you judge my playing by my small note about the cymbals? You've got really childish here. Or you think that your mom bought you a drumkit and you instantly became super cool drummer or something? Don't make me laugh. [QUOTE=BassB;32454423]that's not even well constructed or supported[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BassB;32454423]it took you that long to muster up a shit reply like that[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=BassB;32454423]would you kindly get out. you're wrong[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Thaard]concert video of mr. crack addict will not help your cause[/QUOTE] Woah, what an asspain I see from here! Go cry somewhere else, get back and we will continue our interesting discussion, if it will not get looped again though.
[QUOTE=joey;32540406]Goddamnit, you got back to the beginning, I will not tell you again, just get back and read it. Man, are you a fuckdumb or something? Did you see a video, my explanation or you were fucked in the eyes or something? Are you blind? Read it again, man. Don't repeat random shit like "Ur wrong, they're right", "it breaks the cymbals and sticks", "you suck"How could you judge my playing by my small note about the cymbals? You've got really childish here. Or you think that your mom bought you a drumkit and you instantly became super cool drummer or something? Don't make me laugh. Woah, what an asspain I see from here! Go cry somewhere else, get back and we will continue our interesting discussion, if it will not get looped again though.[/QUOTE] Wow you're wrong, you must be terrible at drumming and arguing if you can only spout stuff like this. It's terrible technique, and it will break cymbals and sticks. Please get out of here, if you can't seriously discuss any technique without instantly getting like this, and so probably will on any aspect of drumming, i barely think anyone would like you to post in this thread ever again. Or just admit it's terrible technique and get it over with. Also please stop being as mad as you are. by the way, i've always payed for my own drums.
[QUOTE=BassB;32540645]Wow you're wrong[/QUOTE] 'bing! [QUOTE=BassB;32540645]admit it's terrible technique[/QUOTE] So you ask me to admit it's terrible technique after I really play it without large damage to the cymbals/sticks? And after I shown you everything so you could agree it's right technique under some conditions? [QUOTE=BassB;32540645]you can't seriously discuss any technique[/QUOTE] Yeah, I really can't discuss if your mind is looped on anything but not the facts or arguments I provided you, you just don't agree with it, you say they're nothing, I can do that too. [QUOTE=BassB;32540645]you must be terrible at drumming and arguing if you can only spout stuff like this[/QUOTE] Smells like woman logic, isn't it?
[QUOTE=joey;32540867]'bing! So you ask me to admit it's terrible technique after I really play it without large damage to the cymbals/sticks? And after I shown you everything so you could agree it's right technique under some conditions? Yeah, I really can't discuss if your mind is looped on anything but not the facts or arguments I provided you, you just don't agree with it, you say they're nothing, I can do that too. Smells like woman logic, isn't it?[/QUOTE] I just have to repeat you're wrong because apparently you can't grasp that concept, you being wrong. besides the only "Facts" you have provided me with are: "I'm right because i've been playing drums for 5 years" and "look at this crackhead he does it too" how the fuck is that woman logic (what the fuck does that even mean), you've been drumming wrongly, so i'm free to assume you're probably not good at it, and your arguing consists out of you saying "friend" "bro" and "fuck" a lot, so i'm able to grasp from that that thats not a really strong point of you either. Do you enjoy taking single sentences out of context and just commenting on those?
[QUOTE=BassB;32541105]I'm right because i've been playing drums for 5 years[/QUOTE] I'm right because I do this "trick" without large damage to the cymbals. [QUOTE=BassB;32541105]and your arguing consists out of you saying "friend" "bro" and "fuck"[/QUOTE] So it spoils your subtle mental organization? Okay, I'll try to be as soft as I can. Let me just repeat why this is right technique: 1. Upside down stick being slightly hit on the cymbal under the angle of ~90 degrees as shown on the video of Ginger "lol look at dat crackhead playin lololol" Baker makes nice bell like effect. It can be the wrong technique if you play it on cheap cymbals that have layered structure because it makes them "flake" or exfoliate, these are usually crash or splash cymbals. I don't know that much about the technique of producing cymbals, but I carefully examine every cymbal before I buy it, using criteries of a sound and the structure. 2. I could post walls of text of physical "assembly" of process of hitting cymbals like that, but I'm sure you will not read this, so I'll just say I can play this with very and very tiny damage to a cymbal, It's even smaller if I hit it stronger than normal. So, I'll just say: If you didn't/can't do something, don't say anybody else couldn't do it. That's the point.
i can do that all i want, doesn't make it good technique. by the way, if you're simply going to tap the cymbal there, it isn't going to damage the cymbal, but it won't make a sound audible trough the mix of whatever you're working with at that moment either. You also say "without large damage to the cymbals", i like to make it a habit not to damage them at all, by using correct technique. Cheap cymbals are made of metal sheets being pressed into shape, they aren't ever layered, that would probably be a more expensive method (albeit even worse), just so you know. I don't think there is anything you can say that would ruin any mental organisation out here.
[QUOTE=joey;32540406]Goddamnit, you got back to the beginning, I will not tell you again, just get back and read it. Man, are you a fuckdumb or something? Did you see a video, my explanation or you were fucked in the eyes or something? Are you blind? Read it again, man. Don't repeat random shit like "Ur wrong, they're right", "it breaks the cymbals and sticks", "you suck" How could you judge my playing by my small note about the cymbals? You've got really childish here. Or you think that your mom bought you a drumkit and you instantly became super cool drummer or something? Don't make me laugh. Woah, what an asspain I see from here! Go cry somewhere else, get back and we will continue our interesting discussion, if it will not get looped again though.[/QUOTE] hloy siht itz liek im on utube!!!!!!
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