I've been doing a buttload of studies lately, here's some from the Color and Light book:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/11wtk6A.png?1[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/MJDCQtr.png?1[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/GyHv9ul.png?1[/img]
Also some boring figure studies I couldn't be arsed to scan:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CFI31D4.jpg?3[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/qx0alVR.jpg?3[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/fxHkhRV.jpg?3[/img]
And some color practice sketches
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2LnbjeY.png?2[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/0rwHT0e.png?2[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/pMD7atM.png?1[/img]
[QUOTE=dnqboy;47490447]I've been doing a buttload of studies lately, here's some from the Color and Light book:[/QUOTE]
Have you ever tried painting with gouache? The way your last couple of posts have been rendered with opaque blocks of colour is pretty much exactly how most people use it. I recommend giving it a go if you haven't.
trying out stippling, once you wrap your head around it it's really fun. Tedious as all hell, though
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xkBD1zq.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/hkiztIs.jpg[/img]
So what do you guys think?
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49828537/Art/paints/100415shutle.png[/IMG]
[img]http://orig07.deviantart.net/dc25/f/2015/100/4/2/cool_funky_stuff_by_bodenlan-d8p58zx.jpg[/img]
animals in party hats because why not
[QUOTE=Jallen;47490198]Just used oil paint for the first time. I only used palette knives, no brushes.
[img]http://orig14.deviantart.net/378e/f/2015/099/b/f/first_time_oil_painting_by_jallenthenovice-d8p212k.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
This is great! I love the vibe, it really draws me in. It looks like a place I'd like to be and chill.
[QUOTE=kirederf7;47494503]So what do you guys think?
[IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49828537/Art/paints/100415shutle.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
don't wanna go in depth but the things that really stick out to me are the river (looks nothing like a river after the closest bit of it, just turns into a weird worm thing with no perspective haha) and the shuttle (looks out of place, like it's a sticker on the picture or something. also the form is all lopsided, design is really clunky and the shadow looks really lazy, not really consistent with the light and ignores the contours of the ground it's cast on)
lastly scale issues throughout
I don't hate it, the design overall is solid and I've liked your other posters but the drawing and painting elements here are letting it down imo. The bg looks nice, the towers are a bit dicey but you could get away with them, but the river is very odd and the ship with its shadow just looks amateurish I'm afraid
Yeah I agree on almost everything you said and I'm not really happy with the piece myself. I really had some unexpected time constraints (no excuse I know). Probably not going to fix anything and just go on painting some other stuff. Thanks for the feedback though, my next piece will be better.
Well, here's three pics. Tried drawing armor.
[img]http://www.wduwant.com/index_uploads/uploads/7acec2975924.jpg[/img]
Tried drawing some more armor. Looks kind of like Eagle/feathery armor.
[img]http://www.wduwant.com/index_uploads/uploads/bfc54713873.jpg[/img]
And I think this armor at least turned out semi-ok.
[img]http://www.wduwant.com/index_uploads/uploads/75c00b18fc3c.jpg[/img]
Any tips on drawing nice reflective metal armor would be welcome.
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47497032]Any tips on drawing nice reflective metal armor would be welcome.[/QUOTE]
Find some pictures of armour and do colour studies on them. They can be game screenshots, movie stills, photographs, whatever. Just get hold of some images of armour that looks right and good and draw it [I]exactly[/I] as you see it. For the purposes of discovering the colours you can colour pick if you choose, but I advise avoiding this as it stops you from also practicing being able to select a colour by eye.
Material spheres are good practice as well because they are kind of the most basic example of how a material reflects / refracts / absorbs light at different angles. If you want a ref for that I'm sure there's loads of chrome sphere renderings out there on google, otherwise ball bearings are basically the same thing.
I recommend posting your studies here with the original ref because people can point out anything you haven't noticed. Remember the key here is to learn, not just copy, so think about why what you see is how it is. You may find painting in greyscale easier, and in fact it will allow you to focus on the important thing - values. So maybe do a couple of those before you launch into colour.
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47497032]Well, here's three pics. Tried drawing armor.
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Any tips on drawing nice reflective metal armor would be welcome.[/QUOTE]
Did you originally create these and come up with the nice compositions? Or are these just another paintover like the Garrus one where you scratched some armor outlines on top?
[QUOTE=dnqboy;47497146]Did you originally create these and come up with the nice compositions? Or are these just another paintover like the Garrus one where you scratched some armor outlines on top?[/QUOTE] I drew them all.
[editline]10th April 2015[/editline]
Btw, Jallen, when you say ref. You mean the reference image on which I'm working on or the outlines? Because I remember people telling me not to do outlines so the way I seem to be doing it now is: take a big 60 pix dark gray brush and make a new layer, create the shadowy outline of a character, then maybe delete to sharpen the character's edges. After that I start using smaller and smaller brushes. Is that about how it works?
By the way, do you guys know what those square-like brushes are called? I mean in this pic below
[url]http://i.imgur.com/11wtk6A.png?1[/url] the brushes feel more quadratic and slightly tilted to the right, where do I get such brushes/ what are they called?
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47498626]I drew them all.[/QUOTE]
Okay, just asking because last time you said that the majority of the image was imported from elsewhere
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47498626]
By the way, do you guys know what those square-like brushes are called? I mean in this pic below
[url]http://i.imgur.com/11wtk6A.png?1[/url] the brushes feel more quadratic and slightly tilted to the right, where do I get such brushes/ what are they called?[/QUOTE]
It's one of the 'oil pastel' default brushes
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47498626]
Btw, Jallen, when you say ref. You mean the reference image on which I'm working on or the outlines? Because I remember people telling me not to do outlines so the way I seem to be doing it now is: take a big 60 pix dark gray brush and make a new layer, create the shadowy outline of a character, then maybe delete to sharpen the character's edges. After that I start using smaller and smaller brushes. Is that about how it works?[/QUOTE]
The reference image is the photo or whatever you are looking at so that you know what to paint.
And I don't know who told you not to do a line drawing first, there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't leave the lines in at the end.
I usually do a rough line drawing, block it in on a layer below, hide the line drawing layer and go from there.
There is no rule of shrinking down your brushes as you go into the painting. Typically you work on the whole painting rather than start from one corner and paint in 100% detail the whole way through, and so you will usually use big brushes at the start and as you detail use smaller ones, but that's not set in stone or anything.
In your paintings you are going quite small with the brushes which isn't necessary and ends up making it look kind of scribbly.
When you paint from reference you will see that there are no such tiny lines on photos. Paint exactly what you see and everything will work itself out.
[QUOTE=Crazy Knife;47498626]I drew them all.
[editline]10th April 2015[/editline]
Btw, Jallen, when you say ref. You mean the reference image on which I'm working on or the outlines? Because I remember people telling me not to do outlines so the way I seem to be doing it now is: take a big 60 pix dark gray brush and make a new layer, create the shadowy outline of a character, then maybe delete to sharpen the character's edges. After that I start using smaller and smaller brushes. Is that about how it works?
By the way, do you guys know what those square-like brushes are called? I mean in this pic below
[url]http://i.imgur.com/11wtk6A.png?1[/url] the brushes feel more quadratic and slightly tilted to the right, where do I get such brushes/ what are they called?[/QUOTE]
Your still painting on top of the image though still yeah? Rather than just drawing from lookng at it?
I think thats part of what was being wondered at
?? I don't paint on top of anything. Those knights/soldiers came from my imagination. I did draw over a turrian pose I made a couple of pages back.
If you say so. It's just strange to see the contrast in skill between the main setup of the scene and characters, and then the scribbly mess of 'armor.'
crazy knife's work voted most suspicious 2015 lol
[QUOTE=kirederf7;47496050]Yeah I agree on almost everything you said and I'm not really happy with the piece myself. I really had some unexpected time constraints (no excuse I know). Probably not going to fix anything and just go on painting some other stuff. Thanks for the feedback though, my next piece will be better.[/QUOTE]
Time pressure is a fine excuse for lesser quality work tbh, you just have to be able to produce great stuff in the first place in order to use it haha
[editline]11th April 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=dnqboy;47499737]If you say so. It's just strange to see the contrast in skill between the main setup of the scene and characters, and then the scribbly mess of 'armor.'[/QUOTE]
honestly it just looks like he knows how to use ps for manipulation fine but can't draw or paint
[QUOTE=Krinkels;47478458]explain?[/QUOTE]
literally just copy+pasted the image into word and found the preset "picture colour" effect that made it black and white lol
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So a client has got me doing a countryside location with a violet sky and regular yellowish gold sun. I'm having trouble figuring out my colours and lighting when the ambient light is purple instead of blue.
Any ideas on how to solve this?
I dont draw much nowadays but here is a small one.
[img]http://40.media.tumblr.com[/img]
Small sketch, grandpa bug is babbysitting tonight.
[QUOTE=Maloof?;47501403]So a client has got me doing a countryside location with a violet sky and regular yellowish gold sun. I'm having trouble figuring out my colours and lighting when the ambient light is purple instead of blue.
Any ideas on how to solve this?[/QUOTE]
Get the client to compromise on the idea lol. Can't really have a violet sky with normal sun because violet is pretty dark, you're only going to get close to it by using time of day but it sounds like they want it to be just violet all the time? So realistically you could either lift the value to more of a mauve to match a more typical sky and that would make the ambience easy enough to manage (assuming you know what you're doing with a normal sky to begin with) OR have it violet due to thick atmosphere, in which case the sun with be pretty weak and obscured and all colours will be heavily influenced by the light filtering through the violet so to speak. they prob don't want that though. You won't be able to do a clear dark coloured sky with a bright sun, that kind of lighting condition isn't natural, it doesn't occur. the nature of light prevents it
so yeah I would try for a compromise, and if the client won't make sure you make them well aware of the problems i.e. tell them they're going to get a nasty unconvincing looking result cuz there's no way to make it work. "I can do it, but I really recommend otherwise, this is why, consider these options". best you can do
[QUOTE=Ferosso;47495258]This is great! I love the vibe, it really draws me in. It looks like a place I'd like to be and chill.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I am happy with how it turned out. I will definitely be using oil again.
If you're interested, its a place in the New Forest in the south of England where a long while ago they planted a load of Californian redwoods. [url]https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.845069,-1.621662,3a,75y,179.39h,86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sBQBLGZzN6x-9u3MQVWytNQ!2e0[/url]
It's a really nice place.
[img]http://puu.sh/h9W3q/6c274748c4.jpg[/img]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/vBgl4tv.gif[/IMG]
Still have no idea what I'm doing, but it's fun. :v:
First time using Gouache today. It's probably the easiest physical paint to work with that I've tried and the most similar to digital in its application.
[img]http://orig15.deviantart.net/f409/f/2015/101/0/f/first_time_using_gouache_by_jallenthenovice-d8pbkky.jpg[/img]
I love how the color extends beyond the black frame, it's like watching the painting deconstruct itself at the fringes (or compose itself at the center)
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