• Lap-Band Surgery, yay or nay?
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Seriously easiest way to lose weight. Stop drinking soda, drink water. OR if you can go vegetarian. I've tried it myself and it works. Simple changes. [editline]09:08PM[/editline] ALSO make yourself a nice cup of hot green tea every morning. You will feel better. Also have it un sweetened or use sugar in the raw.
It isn't as great as it is made out to be. My dad got it and although he lost a lot of weight very quickly he can't eat most things and if he does he throws it up later. Also a lot of people end up gaining the weight back, even with the band still in place.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22036365]Oh bullshit. Yeah you're not going to be Jessica Alba, but everyone can lose weight. Don't give me that shit. [editline]03:57AM[/editline] Ask him again in forty years, then we'll talk.[/QUOTE] You can remove a lap-band, retard. Didn't say gastric now did i? do you're research.
No, that's cheating
A freind of my family had it done. She could hardly eat anything, and when she did she usually puked. She ended up having to have it taken off because it got so bad that she couldn't eat crackers and water without puking.
They only does this for people like over 400 pound. only about 150-200 people a year are able to be have it performed on in Canada.
[QUOTE=ketchup;22036813]A freind of my family had it done. She could hardly eat anything, and when she did she usually puked. She ended up having to have it taken off because it got so bad that she couldn't eat crackers and water without puking.[/QUOTE] My friend said sometimes they make it too small, like, after he got his done he thought it was weird he'd throw up after eating something so small. He went back for them to check i don't know the correct terms but let's say the hole was 1mm in size and it was supposed to be 16mm
Oh so thats how lap band works i thought they just vacuum the fat out of you
Work out, just because you won't be fat doesn't mean you'll be healthy.
[QUOTE=Jcowscows1;22036978]Oh so thats how lap band works i thought they just vacuum the fat out of you[/QUOTE] You're thinking of liposuction. [editline]11:47PM[/editline] [QUOTE=E104 Epsilon;22036992]Work out, just because you won't be fat doesn't mean you'll be healthy.[/QUOTE] Something like the lap band could actually be dangerous without close supervision of a dietitian. If you're fat, your diet is more than likely supplying you with all the nutrients you need (albeit too much fat). Stop this immediately, and you could easily become malnourished.
Walk to school. Or catch a bus and stand up. Same goes for trains. Hey, public transport is good exercise, especially if you miss the bus.
[QUOTE=Xoniao;22035661][img]http://www.obesitycures.com/images/is-statefunded-obesity-surgery-a-good-idea-21119674.jpg[/img] I've been wondering about this surgery, if i should get it, I have a BMI of 33 (sup im fat). The price isn't expensive here in Canada, I can pay monthly 300 bucks for 5 years, which is very affordable considering I live at home with my parents still, (18 years old). If you don't know what a lap-band surgery is it's basically a ring that makes a small stomach pouch, which induces being full very easily. Before you guys tell me to try a diet, workout etc, I've tried alot of diets and I walk alot, I just can't really seem to lose it, sure i'll lose some pounds but overtime it'll come back. What made me interested in this surgery is a friend i met that used to be 300+ pounds than lost it all in almost a year be cause of his gastric bypass, theres pretty awesome storys he tells me about it, like this one time he was full and he ate a cupcake and he felt sick because he was too full. So he threw it up and this is the sweet thing about it - The taste of eating a cupcake going in tastes the same going out! (because it's not mixed with stomach acid and shit because its in the other stomach pouch.) but thats not the reason i want the surgery lol, if it was i'd be a fucking idiot. So fp, know anyone whos got this kinda stuff done? or maybe yourself? I don't even know if i will do it now, maybe a thing in the future if stuff doesn't work out too well. This video is pretty much explains it, and yes it looks so scammish like diet pills haha! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KehzAipuAno&feature=related[/media] Read This : let me make my self clear, I said i don't even know i'll do it, maybe in the future if nothing works out the way i want it to be, don't know why you guys are making it a big deal.[/QUOTE] If you mean by dieting, eating less, bullshit. Eating less food very suddenly convinces your body you are suddenly starving. Once you get hungry and start eating, your body thinks "Oh man food, I better hold onto this incase he starves again." Hence, you regain all the weight and often more. Eat healthier. Skip the burger at McDonalds, go to the Grocery Store and buy a bun, some ham, and some cheese. Buy some groceries and make yourself lunch. Work out too. Find a routine workout that works for you. I.E: Do a quick bike ride after eating a quick lunch during your break, and go for a jog after work. Bike home instead of driving, etc. You need to get your Heart Rate up significantly atleast 30 mins 3x a week. That's 90 minutes a week. If you do that every day, that's less than 15 minutes a day. Just jog for 15 minutes a day, and you'll lose that weight. P.S: The big deal is nobody needs surgery to lose weight. If you honestly think you "can't lose weight", you are bullshitting yourself. [URL=http://img15.imageshack.us/i/bruceleeepic.jpg/][IMG]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8750/bruceleeepic.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037240]If you honestly think you "can't lose weight", you are bullshitting yourself.[/QUOTE] If you honestly think that nobody can possibly be predisposed to weight gain you're also bullshitting yourself. I'm not siding with the OP fyi
My mom had a surgery like this done, but with staples instead of a band. I'd say go for it. She lost like huge amounts of weight real quick. You can't eat as much as your use to, meaning you'll be sick every now and then because you will undoubtedly eat too much without realizing it. You'll be restricted to eating Jello while in the hospital, which is fine, because one or two cups will feel like a full meal to you. Go for it. You'll feel better after it.
[QUOTE=Xoniao;22035661] I've tried alot of diets[/QUOTE] There's your problem. You don't need to try any fancy diets, just eat less, healthier and exercise more. But the gastric bypass sounds like a good idea.
Cutting back on soda helps [I]a lot.[/I] I ate whatever I want, drank about 2 DrPeppers a day, and gained weight. Started drinking Diet DP (I would get caffeine withdrawal headaches if I just went cold turkey) and I instantly started loosing weight. I still eat whatever I want, still losing weight.
Lap band? Pussy. If you REALLY need to restrict what you can eat then go with gastric bypass, because at least then it's permanent so your lazy ass wont get fat again. [editline]01:55AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037240]If you mean by dieting, eating less, bullshit. Eating less food very suddenly convinces your body you are suddenly starving. Once you get hungry and start eating, your body thinks "Oh man food, I better hold onto this incase he starves again." Hence, you regain all the weight and often more. Eat healthier. Skip the burger at McDonalds, go to the Grocery Store and buy a bun, some ham, and some cheese. Buy some groceries and make yourself lunch. Work out too. Find a routine workout that works for you. I.E: Do a quick bike ride after eating a quick lunch during your break, and go for a jog after work. Bike home instead of driving, etc. You need to get your Heart Rate up significantly atleast 30 mins 3x a week. That's 90 minutes a week. If you do that every day, that's less than 15 minutes a day. Just jog for 15 minutes a day, and you'll lose that weight. P.S: The big deal is nobody needs surgery to lose weight. If you honestly think you "can't lose weight", you are bullshitting yourself. [URL="http://img15.imageshack.us/i/bruceleeepic.jpg/"][IMG]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8750/bruceleeepic.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE] also this.
While we're on Bruce Lee quotes. [img]http://myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/posters/bruce-lee-quote.jpg[/img] Also, try moving OUT of your parents palce, try living on nothing but two minute noodles for six months, you'll be suprised how much you loose.
My friend's mom got it, and she just throws up a lot. I wouldn't recommend it unless you've already tried changing your diet and exercising. [editline]06:18AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;22037308]If you honestly think that nobody can possibly be predisposed to weight gain you're also bullshitting yourself. I'm not siding with the OP fyi[/QUOTE] That's not at all what he said.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;22037308]If you honestly think that nobody can possibly be predisposed to weight gain you're also bullshitting yourself. I'm not siding with the OP fyi[/QUOTE] Unless you have some sort of honest predisposition, like an issue with your fat cells, then it's an easily fixable problem. Get your heart rate up more. Getting your heart rate up increases your metabolism, which burns through fat. Eating healthier foods cuts down on the fat that stays in your body. Even if you are predisposed to weight gain, that weight comes from somewhere, but it won't if you (A): Don't eat foods that contain lots of sugar, fat, energy, etc (B): Workout regularly to -Maintain a healthy body -Burn off the calories, fat, and sugars you eat I'm not saying there isn't people that have extreme trouble losing weight, but most, if not all, people can lose weight. It's a state of mind thing too. Heard of the Placebo effect? Think something is true and it will. Not like "I can fly" but something realistic that you honestly could believe. Kids and Sugar is a placebo effect. Sugar is just calories. It's not anything special, and you can get more calories from a meal. Yet give a kid something with sugar, they get hyper. Why? It's a stigma of "Oh boy candy it tastes good". The kid gets excited, which makes them hyper. It's the act of thinking rather than the actual act of doing. Mind over Matter.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Kids and Sugar is a placebo effect. Sugar is just calories. It's not anything special, and you can get more calories from a meal. Yet give a kid something with sugar, they get hyper. Why? It's a stigma of "Oh boy candy it tastes good". The kid gets excited, which makes them hyper. It's the act of thinking rather than the actual act of doing.[/QUOTE] Candy metabolizes differently than say, a hamburger. Haven't you ever experienced a "sugar crash"?
[QUOTE=fenwick;22037744]Candy metabolizes differently than say, a hamburger. Haven't you ever experienced a "sugar crash"?[/QUOTE] Nope. I've drank tons of energy drinks, eaten tons of sugar, but never experienced a crash. Coffee doesn't particularly perk me up either. It wakes me up a bit becaue it's a nice hot drink, but I certainly don't feel a rise and crash other people feel. NOS is the only energy drink where I've actually noticed a rise and crash. I drank it and was like "Woah, I feel so much better" and then later it was like "UGH I JUST WANT TO SLEEP"
[QUOTE=Xoniao;22035661] If you don't know what a lap-band surgery is it's basically a ring that makes a small stomach pouch, which induces being full very easily. Before you guys tell me to try a diet, workout etc, I've tried alot of diets and I walk alot, I just can't really seem to lose it, sure i'll lose some pounds but overtime it'll come back.[/QUOTE] Taking walks isn't going to cut it. You need to shock your system before you can achieve a higher level of fitness. Try running at least 1 mile every day under 8 minutes. In a few weeks you should notice some progress. Also, what diets did you try? I know a lot are bullshit and don't work.
Alright guys, I'll go the healthy way and lose this weight naturally, and to the guy saying move out.. I'm 18, moving out at this age is personal choice really + saves a FUCKload of money. Thank you guys for giving me info and your personal opinions, I'm going to change my lifestyle and shits. <3
Its a lazy easy way. Just do it the natural way and work out/work hard at it.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Unless you have some sort of honest predisposition, like an issue with your fat cells, then it's an easily fixable problem.[/quote] It has little to do with fat cells, actually. It's mostly a metabolism issue. [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Get your heart rate up more. Getting your heart rate up increases your metabolism, which burns through fat. Eating healthier foods cuts down on the fat that stays in your body.[/quote] You are grossly oversimplifying. Everybody has theoretical upper and lower limits to their metabolism (and upon hitting these you most likely WILL stop gaining/losing weight), and eating healty food doesn't magically make your body store less fat. Eating less [b]sugary[/b] food does, and drinking more water can, but again - your oversimplification was pretty much wrong. [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Even if you are predisposed to weight gain, that weight comes from somewhere, but it won't if you (A): Don't eat foods that contain lots of sugar, fat, energy, etc (B): Workout regularly to -Maintain a healthy body -Burn off the calories, fat, and sugars you eat[/quote] Few things on this one. If you're going to work out, you SHOULD eat food that contains a lot of energy. Specifically, complex carbohydrates. Two, "workout regularly" is quite vague, not to mention different goals = different workout routines. Do you want to simply lose mass, or do you want to gain muscle? Do you want more energy, or do you want to tone your body? All of these can be relayed to a dietitian who will help you decide on the best course of action - not Facepunch. And certainly not you. [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]I'm not saying there isn't people that have extreme trouble losing weight, but most, if not all, people can lose weight.[/quote] Yes, of course, I never said otherwise. And I never said OP fits under "otherwise". [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]It's a state of mind thing too. Heard of the Placebo effect? Think something is true and it will. Not like "I can fly" but something realistic that you honestly could believe.[/quote] Oh dear... brace for impact: [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Kids and Sugar is a placebo effect. Sugar is just calories. It's not anything special, and you can get more calories from a meal. Yet give a kid something with sugar, they get hyper. Why? It's a stigma of "Oh boy candy it tastes good". The kid gets excited, which makes them hyper. It's the act of thinking rather than the actual act of doing.[/quote] Mayday mayday the fact plane is going down Yes, sugar makes people hyper. It is NOT just a placebo effect. You can look this up in any reputable medical source. [QUOTE=Tukimoshi;22037699]Mind over Matter.[/QUOTE] ITT Tukimoshi comes dangerously close to advocating for homoeopathic "medicine". However, an admission: your post was 30-40% fine.
I hate the lap band commercial, LET YOUR NEEW LIFE BEGIIIN CALL 1800 get SLIIIM!
OP: Don't get a fucking surgery. You don't need it. You said you've tried a bunch of other diets but still haven't lost weight. Let me guess, all those diets involved eating low amounts of fat? Well, you should never follow those diets. You starve your body, and loose more muscle and water than fat. To loose weight you need to stop eating carbohydrates. That includes bread, sugar, pasta, rice e.t.c. The human body wasn't made for eating the amount of carbohydrates we do today. For millions of years we survived mostly on meat and vegetables, no rice or pasta. When we ingest carbohydrates, especially sugar, the insulin productions skyrocket. Insulin is the most fat-binding hormone in our body. So if you combine a lot of carbohydrates and fat you gain weight. The diet based on eating very little carbs is called "LCHF - Low Carbs High Fat". It's proven to be a much better long-term solution than all the low-fat diets. Studies show that in most cases with low-fat diets you just regain the weight you've lost after a couple of months. LCHF also doesn't starve you and doesn't make you really tired all the time, unlike low-fat diets. And yes, you're supposed to eat a lot of fat. With LCHF you don't gain weight, no matter how much fat you eat. So make a lot of fat pieces of meat with high-fat sauces. Eat until you aren't hungry any more, and then eat again when you're hungry. Since you eat so much fat you don't need much food to get full and you wont become hungry again after half an hour like with low-fat food. The maximum amount of carbohydrates you should ingest per day is 30-40 grams. When you buy products, make sure they don't have more carbs than around 5g/100g. I couldn't find any English guides to LCHF, I suppose it's more popular here in Sweden, but I can translate a list of things that you're allowed/not allowed to eat: This you can eat all you want: All kinds of meat, chicken, birds, fish, shellfish. Don't cut off the visible fat. Yoghurt (The fattest one, with no sugar added), milk, cheese (only fat cheese), créme fraiche, cream, butter, mayonnaise. Vegetables that grow above the ground (Vegetables that grow below ground contain more carbohydrates). Dressings and oil. Eggs. This you shouldn't eat much of: Beans, fruits (One fruit a day is ok, but if you want to loose weight faster, don't eat any) Nuts, almond. A piece of chocolate with a high cacao percentage (70% and up) Alcohol, in form of dry wines or whiskey (They contain low amounts of sugar) This you shouldn't eat: Potatoes or potato-based food like chips or french fries. Rice and rice-products. Corn and corn-products. Grain-based products like pasta, bread, crackers, cereals, porridge, pancakes. Candy, cake, soda and other products rich in sugar. Light-soda is acceptable, but you should still avoid it as it can give you cravings for sugar. So a good breakfast would be bacon and eggs and coffee/tea with cream and without sugar, for lunch and dinner meat with high-fat sauces or some kind of high-fat soups. Try this diet out for a couple of months. I promise you you'll loose a lot of weight and you'll feel really healthy.
a friend of mine got it done, and she looks really great. the only thing is (and i suppose this happens with any kind of quick weight loss) is that she later had to have surgery to remove the extra flappy skin.....
Did FP just give an OP actually, legitimate, good advice!?
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