[url]http://wefuckinglovemusic.blogspot.com/[/url]
A lot of the best music today is underground. Here is one site I like that has some cool bands you'd never normally ever hear of.
I found a bunch of awesome bands through that site.
Rush is coming out with a new album
[QUOTE=Divided;17021003]Have you ever thought of digging deeper to find good music?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't seem like they have.
I prefer not to listen to new music now. I can never seem to find anything that I think is good.
Personally I prefer songs like
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWmeGfJX3w[/media]
[QUOTE=ImBill;16554059]there was shitty music in the 50s there's just nobody to remember it
rose-colored glasses, etc.[/QUOTE]
True, but nowadays the shitty artists are the ones with the millions.
Mainstream music has been going into the shitter since the 70s-90s. Video really did kill the radio star, sort of. Nowadays, record companies pick artists who think will get good ratings on the radio, will look good on television, and have a sound that sounds fresh, but not original. It's more financially sound to find a band that sounds like another successful band, but slightly different. Record companies don't really care about the music, they care about the merchandising. It's all about the bottom line and the value of their stock.
Before most record companies went public on the market, musical artists were usually selected through scouting local music hotspots to hear the bands the locals listened to. It didn't matter what they looked like. It didn't matter how they dressed. It didn't matter what they sounded like either, in a sense. All that mattered was that their sound moved the crowd. That's how they picked artists to sign deals with.
There's still good music out there, but you've gotta look. The internet really is great when it comes to this. There's a whole bunch of genres of music you would have never heard of if you spent all of your time watching FUse or MTV. One of my most favorite bands is someone hardly anyone else has ever heard of.
tldr;
Pop is dead. Metal is dying. Rock is pop. Good music went underground. Welcome to the internet.
P.S. Don't get me started on the "counter-culture"
[QUOTE=DamagePoint;16554268]I don't know if even in the 50s everyone would just sit down and listen to music. I mean there's been background music ever since music started. Back then, like today you'd have people that would just casually listen to music and people that really spent a lot of time and passion and actually spending time listening to it.[/QUOTE]
False. Back then, ways of listening to music weren't everywhere. For a long time, you had to pay and go see it at a concert, and you were there for the music, not to mingle with your friends.
It really only has been used for ambiance since music has become portable, like cassettes, CDs, and mp3 players.
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[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;16554940]There have always been stupid people, and they have always listened to stupid music.[/QUOTE]
But the majority of people were listening to the good music, not the shitty music. Plus the shitty musicians didn't make money. Now in today's world they practically own the music industry.
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[QUOTE=IAreJackass;17036738]Mainstream music has been going into the shitter since the 70s-90s. Video really did kill the radio star, sort of. Nowadays, record companies pick artists who think will get good ratings on the radio, will look good on television, and have a sound that sounds fresh, but not original. It's more financially sound to find a band that sounds like another successful band, but slightly different. Record companies don't really care about the music, they care about the merchandising. It's all about the bottom line and the value of their stock.
Before most record companies went public on the market, musical artists were usually selected through scouting local music hotspots to hear the bands the locals listened to. It didn't matter what they looked like. It didn't matter how they dressed. It didn't matter what they sounded like either, in a sense. All that mattered was that their sound moved the crowd. That's how they picked artists to sign deals with.
There's still good music out there, but you've gotta look. The internet really is great when it comes to this. There's a whole bunch of genres of music you would have never heard of if you spent all of your time watching FUse or MTV. One of my most favorite bands is someone hardly anyone else has ever heard of.
tldr;
Pop is dead. Metal is dying. Rock is pop. Good music went underground. Welcome to the internet.
P.S. Don't get me started on the "counter-culture"[/QUOTE]
There should be some like, kick ass underground society that supports good music and shits on bad mainstream music.
[QUOTE=kitthehacker;17020050]This thread is good. Modern Popular music has become ruled by money and "fads" if something is appealing to lots of people, then all other pop music will be basic copies of that, and because the average person isn't musically educated to a good extent they can't analyse the music and listen to this shit.[/QUOTE]
...Popular music has always been about money and fads, for 60 years, that's the way it's been. It's underground and deeper music that's always good.
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[QUOTE=IAreJackass;17036738]Mainstream music has been going into the shitter since the 70s-90s. Video really did kill the radio star, sort of. Nowadays, record companies pick artists who think will get good ratings on the radio, will look good on television, and have a sound that sounds fresh, but not original. It's more financially sound to find a band that sounds like another successful band, but slightly different. Record companies don't really care about the music, they care about the merchandising. It's all about the bottom line and the value of their stock.
Before most record companies went public on the market, musical artists were usually selected through scouting local music hotspots to hear the bands the locals listened to. It didn't matter what they looked like. It didn't matter how they dressed. It didn't matter what they sounded like either, in a sense. All that mattered was that their sound moved the crowd. That's how they picked artists to sign deals with.
There's still good music out there, but you've gotta look. The internet really is great when it comes to this. There's a whole bunch of genres of music you would have never heard of if you spent all of your time watching FUse or MTV. One of my most favorite bands is someone hardly anyone else has ever heard of.
[b]tldr;
Pop is dead. Metal is dying. Rock is pop. Good music went underground. Welcome to the internet.
P.S. Don't get me started on the "counter-culture"[/b][/QUOTE]
GOD DAMNIT. MUSIC IS NOT DYING. NO FORM OF MUSIC IS DEAD. QUIT THE FUCKING ELITISM.
It however happens, that a LOT of inferior quality music is popular. This doesn't mean SHIT about music being dead. It just means you're an elitist. Music now, is probably better than it ever has been, excluding the classical era of music.
[QUOTE=Thorny;16554044]
B: Computerization - don't get me wrong, I love technology, but it has given us synthesizing (as an example) which means people don't need to play instruments to make music any more. Any moron with a keyboard can make millions from his tracks (lookin' at you Soulja Boy).[/QUOTE]
This is where your argument is flawed. Did the classical composers play every instrument they wrote their music to be performed by?
A lot of electronic music is all about composition, but you're partially right. Electronic music is often looked down upon because of the swampland people like Soulja Boy are making it. There's still enough good in it, though. I view the better artists of it as modern day "classical" type composers, just making the music, and choosing their instruments to perform it.
Thorny, I couldn't agree with you more, modern society is going downhill, FAST!
Just listen to this song, it makes you feel heroic in a way:
[url]http://filebox.me/download?filepath=files/i29ecck5r_35jack_wall_and_sam_hulickform_the_wreckagegtl.mp3&filename=35-jack_wall_and_sam_hulick-form_the_wreckage-gtl.mp3[/url]
Thing is though, while I agree people should dig deeper to find good music now a days, I've tried doing so and found nothing good?!
Of course, there are a few bands I enjoy now a days, I enjoy Sigur Rós properly and would call them one of the best bands of the last century, but usually it's just guys with one song that sounds "a bit 60s", e.g. The papercuts.
I'll have to admit, I enjoy pretty much everything from the seventies. I seriously dig "Do the Hustle" by Van Mccoy (awaiting rage) and am a huge fan of proper Progrock (Termy accused me of being an Emo because this, what a bellend) like King Crimson, Camel and Mike Oldfield.
The major downfall of modern music is that the internet has allowed anyone to start a band, and they do. And because the labels are so bloody eagre to make cash from disposable artists they'll sign anyone with at least 12 fans by calling them "Indie".
I'm hoping there'll be a musical reneissance soon, the 90s were pretty good but its time to move on.
Also, I hope the Killers, Kings of Leon and Friendly Fires all die. I really couldn't care about Lady Gaga and Soulja Boy because there not exactly tampering with the precious Rock scene, they're just churning out chart friendly pap.
i swear people that like old music are worse
it's like I AM 12 AND I AM COOL BECAUSE I LISTEN TO PINK FLOYD shut the fuck up
You want an example of good music? I mean really goddamn good music, huh? Do ya muthafuckah? And recent too?
Shazam!
[url]http://www.imeem.com/mazeetwazaad/music/_iE2yxlq/namco-the-unsung-war-the-last-battle/[/url]
[url]http://www.imeem.com/people/_2fCS/music/kp0xHIGz/ace-combat-zero-zero/[/url]
Youtube doesn't do these songs justice.
[QUOTE=Egevened;17043988]i swear people that like old music are worse
it's like I AM 12 AND I AM COOL BECAUSE I LISTEN TO PINK FLOYD shut the fuck up[/QUOTE]
This. I agree with this.
The seventies are dead. When you can't find any music from four decades ago, don't bitch to us because you're too obstinate to grow up and evolve with the times.
[QUOTE=h4konn;17043703]The major downfall of modern music is that the internet has allowed anyone to start a band, and they do.[/QUOTE]What is this even supposed to mean? Anyone could start a band before the internet too. Nothing's changed.
ITT classic rock listeners have only heard main stream rap, ian d/gmod4ever (people who experienced the finer points of music) argue against their stupid and shallow arguements
[QUOTE=SickJits;17047306]ITT classic rock listeners have only heard main stream rap, [B]ian d[/B]/gmod4ever (people who experienced the finer points of music) argue against their stupid and shallow arguements[/QUOTE]:buddy:
Music isn't any worse today than it was at any other point in time.
Part of the problem with artists today is that record companies look for bands that sound pleasing to mainstream audiences. Therefore, 2-chord shitfests like the Jonas Brothers are born. And so, the evolution of music comes to a grinding halt. There are plenty of creative, new sounds out there, but hardly any of them are getting signed, since record companies are afraid to take a chance with new styles. It's sad really.
La Mer > Beyond the Sea
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_nopTFuZA[/media]
[QUOTE=Ian D;17047144]What is this even supposed to mean? Anyone could start a band before the internet too. Nothing's changed.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but they never achieved success. Alot of the time now, you read about terrible bands that form and achieve a major label record deal within a year. In ye olde times, most bands clocked at least a 1000 hours of practice time before recording a debut album.
Now, people no longer start bands to play in pubs, or just pass the time; the internet has convinced them that they need a fanbase, and they need to record all the ideas in their heads.
Also, while I am a teenager who listens to bands similar to Pink Floyd (as in Egevened's description), I not only try to broaden my taste by trying modern bands, but I choose them from personal taste not from daddy's record collection.
[QUOTE=Jack Nitro;17047818]Part of the problem with artists today is that record companies look for bands that sound pleasing to mainstream audiences. Therefore, 2-chord shitfests like the Jonas Brothers are born. And so, the evolution of music comes to a grinding halt. There are plenty of creative, new sounds out there, but hardly any of them are getting signed, since record companies are afraid to take a chance with new styles. It's sad really.[/QUOTE]
Record companies are afraid to take a chance with new styles? Not all of them, buddy.
[QUOTE=h4konn;17048451]Yes, but they never achieved success. Alot of the time now, you read about terrible bands that form and achieve a major label record deal within a year. In ye olde times, most bands clocked at least a 1000 hours of practice time before recording a debut album.
Now, people no longer start bands to play in pubs, or just pass the time; the internet has convinced them that they need a fanbase, and they need to record all the ideas in their heads.
Also, while I am a teenager who listens to bands similar to Pink Floyd (as in Egevened's description), I not only try to broaden my taste by trying modern bands, but I choose them from personal taste not from daddy's record collection.[/QUOTE]
What? One of the most popular and influential hardcore bands of 2000+ has toured to literally every single country in the world, and have hardly made any money. Have Heart, made a mission statement with their first released E.P., I don't remember it exactly but it was something along the lines of "We love music and we're going to keep playing music until we're so broke we can't play music any more. We don't want money, we just want to get our message across and break even." Have Heart was widely popular before the inception of myspace and the success of the internet, even though most of them were straight edge they played in bars around boston trying to get their word out
fuck why am I writing this this really doesn't matter
screamo and emo sucks, just a bunch of lily white suburban kids complaining on how bad their life is over the stupidest things.
i like all musical genres, rock, rap, punk, nu metal, metal, etc. but i've never liked screamo or emo, it sounds annoying to me.
[QUOTE=SickJits;17048535]What? One of the most popular and influential hardcore bands of 2000+ has toured to literally every single country in the world, and have hardly made any money. Have Heart, made a mission statement with their first released E.P., I don't remember it exactly but it was something along the lines of "We love music and we're going to keep playing music until we're so broke we can't play music any more. We don't want money, we just want to get our message across and break even." Have Heart was widely popular before the inception of myspace and the success of the internet, even though most of them were straight edge they played in bars around boston trying to get their word out
fuck why am I writing this this really doesn't matter[/QUOTE]
Exactly, they care about music over commercial success and are therefore dedicated to their band. I'm talking about the wank-piles who croon over the same three chords after choosing the life of a "Musician" to fund their reckless behaviour, e.g. Working is hard.
There's a difference between trying to reach people and trying to get a fanbase consisting mostly of pre-pubescent girls.
Now someone, give me some new stuff i might like! I'm usually into blues, but i could try out something new. Can someone tell me some mordern bands/artists or songs?
[QUOTE=shinobiboy77;17048600]screamo and emo sucks, just a bunch of lily white suburban kids complaining on how bad their life is over the stupidest things.
i like all musical genres, rock, rap, punk, nu metal, metal, etc. but i've never liked screamo or emo, it sounds annoying to me.[/QUOTE]
That's not what this thread is about...
Aphex Twin is overlooked. He's a modern electronic artist, and a genius in my opinion.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z4cLmbw6q0[/media]
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