[QUOTE=Prof. Oak;21722749]You know how many fucking illegals are in Arizona??
My mom got hit by some dumbass illegal with a car, had to go to the hospital, and the guy ran away.[/QUOTE]
you're blaming illegal immigrants to garner sympathy support with this retarded story
White people can be illegal too.
Completely fine with this, great measure to rat out those parasites.
Stop making such a fuss about it, people! I see riots and stuff on the news, and it just makes me remember how many stupid people there are in this world.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;21722938]Completely fine with this, great measure to rat out those parasites.
Stop making such a fuss about it, people! I see riots and stuff on the news, and it just makes me remember how many stupid people there are in this world.[/QUOTE]
Would you like it if you were pulled over repeatedly just because you were of a certain ethnicity?
[QUOTE=Chezhead;21722938]just makes me remember how many stupid people there are in this world.[/QUOTE]
Do you get a burning image of your own face in your head whenever you think of that
[QUOTE=Prof. Oak;21722921]White people can be illegal too.[/QUOTE]
You are completely correct. When you show me statistics that white people are pulled over, being checked for their birth papers, at the same rate that those of Hispanic looking descent, I'll take your argument more seriously.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;21722938]Completely fine with this, great measure to rat out those parasites.
Stop making such a fuss about it, people! I see riots and stuff on the news, and it just makes me remember how many stupid people there are in this world.[/QUOTE]
It's a good thing our master intellects make us a cut above the rest of society. If it weren't for the boundless reaches of my superior mind, I would almost pity the poor peons.
Hah! Silly proles. When will they ever learn?
[QUOTE=heathendevil;21722877]no bro the point is they shouldn't have to
like everyone else[/QUOTE]
ok, this makes sense
wow this sucks because usually whatever bill passes in arizona is gonna pass in california this sucks yo.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21722110]The problem is that people are being forced to show their papers with no proof that they're doing anything wrong. It's going to end up causing lots of legal hispanics to get arrested simply because they went for a stroll without their wallet.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of any situation you are supposed to carry any sort of legal identification. Hispanics are just being targeted because of the area that they are in.
Everyone at my school always has an Arizona, but I never tried it out myself. But now it's apparently banned from illegal citizens???
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[QUOTE=Chezhead;21722938]Completely fine with this, great measure to rat out those parasites.
Stop making such a fuss about it, people! I see riots and stuff on the news, and it just makes me remember how many stupid people there are in this world.[/QUOTE]
when people claim that they're the straight man in a retarded world populated with stupid, illogical and inferior people, it adds emphasis to the latter half of the statement.
nothing really is as fucking stupid as you think it is.
also i think the lot of you guys are taking the whole civil liberties and equality shit for granted; this is seriously not okay if we want to keep prizing our very free america attitude. i don't know how you've come to think of other people as parasites.
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[QUOTE=Beardy;21723119]wow this sucks because usually whatever bill passes in arizona is gonna pass in california this sucks yo.[/QUOTE]
lol, don't worry, with this bills reputation its lucky to not be repealed in Arizona
How else do you folks propose we fix this illegal alien fiasco? I can't think of anything else. Did you know Arizona has around [i]283,000[/i] illegal immigrants?
Personally, I think something should be done, but whether or not this is right changes constantly in my mind. But it's the best thing I can think of to do currently.
Great bill to pass. All these people (ethnicity doesn't matter) jumping our borders and causing violence, bringing drugs, not paying taxes, taking jobs, and just infesting our states. I have no problem with someone coming over so they can send money back to feed their family, but don't break our laws. Live by the rules or get out.
If it was up to me, I would put up a big fence with snipers and shoot anyone who tries to cross.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723380]Great bill to pass. All these people (ethnicity doesn't matter) jumping our borders and causing violence[b](stereotype)[/b], bringing drugs[b](stereotype)[/b], not paying taxes[b](not true)[/b], taking jobs[b](Not true)[/b], and just infesting[b](So they're vermin, in your eyes?)[/b] our states.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723380]
I have no problem with someone coming over so they can send money back to feed their family, but don't break our laws. Live by the rules or get out.
[/QUOTE]
Which is why we should punish all of them, right?
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723380]
If it was up to me, I would put up a big fence with snipers and shoot anyone who tries to cross.[/QUOTE]
You're a terrible human being.
[QUOTE=adzicents;21722660]If I were a cop I would go around asking white guys just to piss them off thinking they escaped this bill.[/QUOTE]
We already have a border patrolman that does that.
He constantly follows around my friend (who is about as white as you can get), constantly buggering him about whether he's illegal or not. Happens once or twice a week; same cop, too.
Though, why do we even [b]have[/b] border patrol up here in Washington? I've never heard of an illegal Canadian. Have any of you? :raise:
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723488]Which is why we should punish all of them, right?[/QUOTE]
If you're not an illegal immigrant, you have nothing to worry about. If you are, then you should be punished.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723488]You're a terrible human being.[/QUOTE]
It's called solving a problem, but you seem to want everyone to walk all over us. If my idea was put into affect, I'm pretty sure very few people would try to cross the border.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723585]If you're not an illegal immigrant, you have nothing to worry about. If you are, then you should be punished.
It's called solving a problem, but you seem to want everyone to walk all over us. If my idea was put into *effect, I'm pretty sure very few people would try to cross the border.[/QUOTE]
By your logic, we should execute anyone who commits a misdemeanor. I thought society would have evolved past killing someone who does something wrong, but I guess not.
How old are you, exactly?
Illegal immigrants supply- how much? I think it was like 9 billion, but don't quote me- a hell of alot of money to Arizona. They're only harming themselves in the long run with this.
And following that, it's immoral and wrong to racially profile and then ask for papers, and then jail anyone who doesn't have them.
It was wrong when Hitler did it with the Jews, it was wrong when the Confederacy did it with the blacks, and it's wrong to do it with Hispanics.
Following THAT, the majority of immigrants pay taxes- sales tax primarily, but many also pay just like everyone else, sometimes overpaying. Anyone who pays taxes in America and therefore helps America should have the right to reside in the nation in which they live, work, and support economically.
Following that, you know you would do the same thing as these people in their condition. You also should know that it is immoral and wrong to deport those here, as a nation that boasts our greatness, it is hypocritical and downright wrong to turn away those in need, who cannot legally join our nation because of the biased, bureaucratic, complicated, and limited legal immigration process.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723654]By your logic, we should execute anyone who commits a misdemeanor. I thought society would have evolved past killing someone who does something wrong, but I guess not.
How old are you, exactly?[/QUOTE]
Less than or equal to 16 i bet
[QUOTE=Detective P;21723792]Illegal immigrants supply- how much? I think it was like 9 billion, but don't quote me- a hell of alot of money to Arizona. They're only harming themselves in the long run with this.[/QUOTE]
Not to arizona; it was to the IRS.
Still a metric fuckton of money for someone at that income level.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723854]Not to arizona; it was to the IRS.
Still a metric fuckton of money for someone at that income level.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm talking directly to the state of Arizona. I heard it on Colbert or the Daily Show, I think. Either way, it was in the billions tot he state.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723654]By your logic, we should execute anyone who commits a misdemeanor. I thought society would have evolved past killing someone who does something wrong, but I guess not.
How old are you, exactly?[/QUOTE]
By your logic, we should allow anyone we want into the country, regardless of their current or past history. You may call it a misdemeanor, I call it a felony and most of the times it is for smuggling drugs, weapons, etc.
Trespass on a military base and you will be shot. How many people jump military fences? Slim to none. Same can be applied for the border. You sir have evolved into a "oh, lets just ask them nicely to stop crossing and everything will be okay". I'm sorry, but that hasn't worked and never will. You ignore the real problems and try to fix them with nonworking solutions. Don't try to bring age in either, I know 3rd graders that are more aware of our problems then you.
For anyone who doesn't realize, you have to be caught doing something illegal before they can ask for your papers. If they aren't committing crimes, they've nothing to worry about.
All these idiots calling it racial profiling have no idea what they're talking about and I don't think we can compare ourselves to Hitler until we start mass murdering millions of people.
Cops cannot stop anyone based on their looks. They need reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723947]All these idiots calling it racial profiling have no idea what they're talking about. Cops cannot stop anyone based on their looks. They need reasonable suspicion or probable cause.[/QUOTE]
Both of which are based on judgment on the officers part. Please explain to me how an officer will know if a person is illegal that isn't based on race.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723926]By your logic, we should allow anyone we want into the country, regardless of their current or past history. You may call it a misdemeanor, I call it a felony and most of the times it is for smuggling drugs, weapons, etc.[/QUOTE]
Show me statistics that they are primarily smuggling things in.
I'm waiting.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723926]
Trespass on a military base and you will be shot. How many people jump military fences? Slim to none. Same can be applied for the border. You sir have evolved into a "oh, lets just ask them nicely to stop crossing and everything will be okay". I'm sorry, but that hasn't worked and never will. You ignore the real problems and try to fix them with nonworking solutions.[/QUOTE]
I never said that this wasn't an issue. Simply put, I don't think this is the way to solve it. Neither is killing people.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21723926]Don't try to bring age in either, I know 3rd graders that are more aware of our problems then you.[/QUOTE]
:ohdear:
The only reason I brought up age is because your only solution to this problem was to kill people.
If that isn't a sign of age, or general immaturity, I'm not sure what is.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723984]Both of which are based on judgment on the officers part. Please explain to me how an officer will know if a person is illegal that isn't based on race.[/QUOTE]
Well lets see. A officers stops a van, walks up to the windows and sees it packed with 15 people, all dirty clothes with dirt, and driver has no license. Based on reasonable suspicion of illegal immigrants, the officer can ask for papers.
[QUOTE=Kronix904;21724076]Well lets see. A officers stops a van, walks up to the windows and sees it packed with 15 people, all dirty clothes with dirt, and driver has no license. Based on reasonable suspicion of illegal immigrants, the officer can ask for papers.[/QUOTE]
This is the only way an illegal immigrant will travel.
:downs:
They will stop people not in the position shown. There will also be those who will abuse the law, and harass innocent civilians.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723984]Show me statistics that they are primarily smuggling things in.
I'm waiting.[/QUOTE]
Go look it up yourself? Those are only the ones who got caught also.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723984]I never said that this wasn't an issue. Simply put, I don't think this is the way to solve it. Neither is killing people.[/QUOTE]
I don't want people dieing either, but trust me, guns have more fear than words or laws.
[QUOTE=that1dude24;21723984]
:ohdear:
The only reason I brought up age is because your only solution to this problem was to kill people.
If that isn't a sign of age, or general immaturity, I'm not sure what is.[/QUOTE]
So because of my ideas that makes me less of age and immature?
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[QUOTE=that1dude24;21724113]This is the only way an illegal immigrant will travel.
:downs:
They will stop people not in the position shown. There will also be those who will abuse the law, and harass innocent civilians.[/QUOTE]
They can't idiot, don't talk about what you don't know. Not every cop is a dirty cop.
After anyone one gets arrested, they go in front of a judge and see if the cop(s) had the right to arrest them. If it was wrong, the charges will be dropped.
Bye.
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