I'm going to say yes, but there have to be restrictions. Such as:
-Driving/operating motorized vehicles while under the influence is prohibited
-Being at work or school while under the influence is prohibited
-Past history and criminal record checks must be done before you can obtain any type of drug
-Controlled amounts are given at a certain time
-Age restrictions, like with alcohol and tobacco
Personally, I don't do drugs. But if people use them recreationally and can control their habits, then go for it. If drugs get in the way of your safety or the safety of those around you, then it becomes a problem.
I would say yes, to some drugs, not all drugs.
Honestly? Yes, legalize all of them. Sell them at 7/11, sell them at Walgreen's, sell them at Wal-Mart for crying out loud. Let me buy my pot at a store, maybe some blow if I have an affair coming up, alongside my cigarettes and booze. Let the government get filthy rich off of drugsales. Downsides? One; if people are stupid enough that they can't control their drug use and become addicted/overdose/ruin their lives, that's their fault, not the drug's. I'm just a humble stoner, but I have a couple friends that use heroin every now and again, yet they're healthy, quite fit even, and in good status in life. Needless to say the drugs are dangerous to our bodies and minds, yes, but the people that get fucked up by them.. think, if all these illicit drugs didn't exist, they'd have just become alcoholics instead.
I'm not one to kill somebody over crack or eat someone's face off on LSD, so let me bloody buy some high quality drugs from a reputable establishment if I wish to trip balls, not the shady guy on the east-side.
Drugs should be legalized. Addiction should not be a crime, rather a public health issue.
[QUOTE=zydos;39289204]Honestly? Yes, legalize all of them. Sell them at 7/11, sell them at Walgreen's, sell them at Wal-Mart for crying out loud. Let me buy my pot at a store, maybe some blow if I have an affair coming up, alongside my cigarettes and booze. Let the government get filthy rich off of drugsales. Downsides? One; if people are stupid enough that they can't control their drug use and become addicted/overdose/ruin their lives, that's their fault, not the drug's. I'm just a humble stoner, but I have a couple friends that use heroin every now and again, yet they're healthy, quite fit even, and in good status in life. Needless to say the drugs are dangerous to our bodies and minds, yes, but the people that get fucked up by them.. think, if all these illicit drugs didn't exist, they'd have just become alcoholics instead.
I'm not one to kill somebody over crack or eat someone's face off on LSD, so let me bloody buy some high quality drugs from a reputable establishment if I wish to trip balls, not the shady guy on the east-side.[/QUOTE]
well most people who get addicted, isn't because they meant to, sometimes you can slip into it without even realizing. but instead of having such hard headed way of going about, we should, with legalizing, let addiction and how it happens be known as common knowledge. And not the bullshit they teach today that is complete and utter crap and wrong. For instance, you will not be addicted to any substance you try once, unless your fucking with some stupid really hard rediculous way past heroin drugs. Addiction forms first through habit, then comes addiction, and it's usually not even because of the drug, it's that person's psyche whether they have depression or anxiety, a drug can be an easy safe haven out of there, and when a user without the knowledge of addiction finds out about this, they ask themselves, "why should I ever quit? Why would I want to stop doing something that makes me feel "right"?"
oh by the way, granted even if one does get addicted, it is still primarily their fault since they chose to try and get into the drug as well though, regardless of knowledge. oh but also they shouldn't all just wither away and die, but rather seek help.
The "War on Drugs" isn't just about drugs. It's about creating markets for weapons and the militarization of territory, as much as it about making profit, neoliberal economics and using prohibition as a means to control certain minorities. The idea that certain drugs are illegal because they are harmful to the populace, or because they are wrong on some moral level, is absolutely ridiculous because pushing them underground just makes them more harmful.
The sooner they are legalized (if there is such thing as "illegal" drugs at all... [URL]http://cannabisni.com/uk-cannabis-news/1933-illegal-drugs-do-not-exist-by-casey-william-hardison[/URL]) and regulated properly the better. Unfortunately this is set to be a slow and protracted crawl towards common sense because their very prohibition is in the vested interests of many powerful institutions that make a killing out of it each and every day.
There's no person out there going "Gee, I want to try some meth, but damn it just isn't legal!". Anyone that wants to do drugs doesn't care if they are legal or not.
Exactly.
And that's why substances should be available regulated to reduce the main harms which more often than not stem from the black market and not the substance itself.
You can tell people not to use drugs or eat hamburgers all you like but pushing it underground and making it more dangerous due to simply their prohibition just makes people less likely to listen to you in the first place.
The point I was trying to make is that it won't make a difference.
Oh ok.
Well putting people in danger by pushing the market for these substances underground doesn't seem to do a lot to dissuade anyone from taking them. Maybe making it safer to take them in the first place by regulating their production and sale would be a good idea and providing the full picture of benefits and risks for each one through education instead of just emphasising the negatives and accenting them with poorly researched sob stories.
If someone can get a substance at a reasonable price from a regulated source guaranteed to be clean and with a known strength and dosage recommendation vs from an unregulated black market at inflated prices, what will they do?
[QUOTE=zach1193;39291150]well most people who get addicted, isn't because they meant to, sometimes you can slip into it without even realizing. but instead of having such hard headed way of going about, we should, with legalizing, let addiction and how it happens be known as common knowledge. And not the bullshit they teach today that is complete and utter crap and wrong. For instance, you will not be addicted to any substance you try once, unless your fucking with some stupid really hard rediculous way past heroin drugs. Addiction forms first through habit, then comes addiction, and it's usually not even because of the drug, it's that person's psyche whether they have depression or anxiety, a drug can be an easy safe haven out of there, and when a user without the knowledge of addiction finds out about this, they ask themselves, "why should I ever quit? Why would I want to stop doing something that makes me feel "right"?"
oh by the way, granted even if one does get addicted, it is still primarily their fault since they chose to try and get into the drug as well though, regardless of knowledge. oh but also they shouldn't all just wither away and die, but rather seek help.[/QUOTE]
Well yes, it's the habit that spawns the addiction, the instability to go on without exorcizing that habit continually, as it grips your mind and body. Just.. they chose to take the risk, they chose to do the drug frequently, they chose to let it slip from past-time to addiction, and if they can't handle the drug then they should get help or waste away, not inhibit my freedom and ability to have the same drug
drugs should revolve around YOUR life
your life shouldn't revolve around drugs
also, some drugs SHOULD be legalised, but still regulated. for example, let people buy pot at age 16. if its regulated, then there should be no cause for alarm. its going to be safe.
other drugs, like Pslocybin mushrooms, should have an age restriction, + a maximum amount you can buy.
stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine, and all the HARD drugs should still be illegal.
Still fueling the cartels, and nastiest ones at that, if you keep them outlawed
I wanna be able to buy some coke for a party if I feel like it
[QUOTE=MEOWTFLOL;39300045]drugs should revolve around YOUR life
your life shouldn't revolve around drugs
also, some drugs SHOULD be legalised, but still regulated. for example, let people buy pot at age 16. if its regulated, then there should be no cause for alarm. its going to be safe.
other drugs, like Pslocybin mushrooms, should have an age restriction, + a maximum amount you can buy.
stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine, and all the HARD drugs should still be illegal.[/QUOTE]
Make it at least 18, not 16.
Why would there be a maximum amount of mushrooms you can buy?
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Also fun fact, Dr Jekyll and Hyde was apparently written on a 6 day cocaine binge :v:
Adults should have the freedom to use any substance. If they want to try cocaine, then they should be able to do cocaine.
Weed should be legalized. I have seen a ton of people fighting and doing horrible things just because of alcohol and that shit is legal. But with getting high with weed is just relaxing and fun in many ways.
Drugs should be legal for the sole purpose of not benefiting some shady-ass douche dealers
Only marijuana, lsd and maybe ecstasy or else we'd have hundreds of people nodding off in the streets and shit
[QUOTE=Faz;39392518]Only marijuana, lsd and maybe ecstasy or else we'd have hundreds of people nodding off in the streets and shit[/QUOTE]
Why would we have hundreds of people nodding off in the streets? How is that even realistic? Sure there are some people walking round the street drunk but they tend to be a minority unless, I speculate, other localised social issues and inequality have driven them to it.
A lot of the people who use drugs already do it regardless of the law so why shouldn't we make it safer for them especially if a lot of the substances they consume are far safer than the "legitimate" recreational ones?
The current policy does not prevent people who want drugs from accessing them at all and only serves to make them more dangerous through black market side effects. Why shouldn't we regulate them and make them safer so that people know what they're getting without contaminants, how much to take (dosage), etc.?
Most currently prohibited substances including those that you mentioned would be far safer to use if regulated and in many cases thousands of lives would be saved. Neither marijuana, ecstasy, or LSD are life-threatening when provided from a clean source and used responsibly and correctly.
marijuana can't be life-threatening under any circumstances unless there is literally poison in it and you smoke it like you would normally.
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also as to the above poster, if all drugs became legal under the federal law of the U.S., we would see an increase in the use of drugs and a boost in the economy.
But over time drug use would probably decrease, and any negative black market effects would also decrease. It would be a win-win basically.
With the black market side effects gone, wouldn't lower use no longer be an effective indicator of success due to drastically reduced dangers across the board?
If there's higher use but it's responsible use and not problem use, it isn't a really a bad thing, is it?
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;39400331]With the black market side effects gone, wouldn't lower use no longer be an effective indicator of success due to drastically reduced dangers across the board?
If there's higher use but it's responsible use and not problem use, it isn't a really a bad thing, is it?[/QUOTE]
So ideally you would want the entire human population smoking as much pot as possible, responsibly and problem-free, in hopes to making things better?
that's JustExtreme.
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Anyway, one can manage a successful life while responsibly smoking pot, or even using heroin, so in that sense they should be mostly legal (also for quality and benefits going into better causes), but they are truly some forces to be reckoned.
Not really...
Yeah responsible use is possible for most substances but I would say there needs to be support available for those who develop a bad relationship with them despite the proper regulation and educational efforts.
[QUOTE=MEOWTFLOL;39300045]drugs should revolve around YOUR life
your life shouldn't revolve around drugs
also, some drugs SHOULD be legalised, but still regulated. for example, let people buy pot at age 16. if its regulated, then there should be no cause for alarm. its going to be safe.
other drugs, like Pslocybin mushrooms, should have an age restriction, + a maximum amount you can buy.
stuff like heroin, meth, cocaine, and all the HARD drugs should still be illegal.[/QUOTE]
Yes!
But as has been mentioned many times, the "hard" drugs aren't as dangerous when they're regulated properly and the black market and it's side effects are taken out of the picture. They can be used responsibly.
Keeping them underground and stigmatising them through biased education just makes them more dangerous through incorrect tolerance calculation, contamination, unknown strength and dosage, etc. for the people who, for whatever reason, find themselves using them.
People don't overdose on drugs on purpose and even if they did, they shouldn't fucking die just because some morons in suits moralized the issue and failed to make the product safer when they had the power to do so.
I'm on the side for "Decriminalize all drugs" I have used marijuana or "weed" in my lifetime, and I see no problems with it what-so-ever. Other drugs, while I have never done them. Should also be decriminalized in America. America is supposed to be a "Free" country. The people should be able to decide what they put in there body, and the consequences of putting those things in thier body. On the side of "People on drugs can do horrible things", so can any sober people. Many of the mass-murders/shootings in the past decade have all been sober people, no drugs involved.
Legalize, no regulations, it will just make prices jump very high and new concerns getting rich out of it, and basically ruining the quality.
Home-made products > bought products.
Anything that allows an average person to make a decent living without entering the "workforce" (or the slaveforce as I call it) is either illegal or so heavily regulated you have to have a wheelbarrel of money to do it.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;39411191]But as has been mentioned many times, the "hard" drugs aren't as dangerous when they're regulated properly and the black market and it's side effects are taken out of the picture. They can be used responsibly.
Keeping them underground and stigmatising them through biased education just makes them more dangerous through incorrect tolerance calculation, contamination, unknown strength and dosage, etc. for the people who, for whatever reason, find themselves using them.
People don't overdose on drugs on purpose and even if they did, they shouldn't fucking die just because some morons in suits moralized the issue and failed to make the product safer when they had the power to do so.[/QUOTE]
I assume you have first-hand experiences with drugs? Or do you?
And plenty of people overdose on legal drugs like painkillers, intentional or not. Sometimes people really don't think when they are hooked on something.
Other than that, the heavy illegal-drug users do think they know what they are doing, but they are still under a habit of use, or an addiction, and they feed it. They know about dosage, they know about tolerance, they definitely know about any possibilities of contamination. But do you know what it's like when your tolerance is high and the history of use is long and constant? It's crippling, and it's a slippery slope for starters. Plenty of stories out there man.
So yeah, hard drugs are dangerous, even if regulated properly, even if pure as shit. Especially if pure. And yes, they can be used responsibly every now and then. Although punching needles through your arms for a great satisfactory need isn't going to be left as "every now and then", if you start doing it you will very likely die young, so be careful.
Well, Government having control over drugs sounds a better idea than criminal gangs having control over them.
Just have to have regulations and precautions so it doesn't get out of hand and we end up with a epidemic of smack addicts.
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