Drugs definately should be legalised. It would cause much less problems. Cops die every day because of this. It is entirely your choice if you want to do drugs and or smoke. Why should the law get in your way? It simply isn't fair.
If you were to ban alcohol, people would go crazy. Alcohol still causes car accidents, and so do drugs. So why have drugs illigal if alcohol still causes car accidents and other things?
some drugs not all
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No drug should be illegal. People live till their 80s healthily with daily medical heroin IV. Psychedelics have real therapeutic value, have no adverse effect for educated user. No classic drug makes you violent, some stimulant RCs do that. No one would go near RCs if classics were easily accessible. Educate people and stop this bullshit war. Why was drugs banned in first place? Population control? Money for enforcers? What else can it be?
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What about freedom? Who is government to not let me put some chemical in my body. How does that make any sense at all?
Exactly. Whether you can accept it or not, people are going to abuse drugs no matter what. It doesn't even matter if it's medical heroine or medical weed. Seriously, drug addicts are either hurting theirselves, or faking being hurt just do get their hands on medical weed. I'm not a pessimist, but I don't think that drugs will ever stop being abused. So why not just make them all legal, and stop the innocent men dying trying to enforce the law.
Okay sure,let's sell ,meth, bath salts, acid, everyone's favorite mind tweaking drugs!
IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE THINGS MAKE MOST PEOPLE GO BAT SHIT MAD WHEN THEIR ON THEM OR ANYTHING.
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oh shit, "I AM THE LAW" dude , where do you get your news? bwahahahahaha
This thread is hilarious when I come back to it every once in a while to see the same illogical tabloid fuelled scientifically lacking crap that gets sprayed all over the walls in here over and over again like a toilet on the last day of a festival.
If the thread was my ass I'd be fucking loading up on Immodium.
[QUOTE=I AM THE LAW;39532362]Okay sure,let's sell ,meth, bath salts, acid, everyone's favorite mind tweaking drugs!
IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE THINGS MAKE MOST PEOPLE GO BAT SHIT MAD WHEN THEIR ON THEM OR ANYTHING.[/QUOTE]
Someone on acid can't even hurt fly. As I said if classics are available no one is going to do so called "bath salts" (really broad term, it could be any chemical). Sell meth, people who want to do meth already do it but they get it from criminal organizations with impurities.
[QUOTE=I AM THE LAW;39532362]Okay sure,let's sell ,meth, bath salts, acid, everyone's favorite mind tweaking drugs!
IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE THINGS MAKE MOST PEOPLE GO BAT SHIT MAD WHEN THEIR ON THEM OR ANYTHING.[/QUOTE]
Getting yourself into situations where you can't prevent yourself from hurting other people is reckless behaviour. That's illegal no matter what, and it's still the user's fault. Legalizing drugs won't mean it's suddenly legal to go out and wreck shit because you're mad.
[QUOTE=I AM THE LAW;39532362]Okay sure,let's sell ,meth, bath salts, acid, everyone's favorite mind tweaking drugs!
IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE THINGS MAKE MOST PEOPLE GO BAT SHIT MAD WHEN THEIR ON THEM OR ANYTHING.[/QUOTE]
"bat shit mad"? There [I]is no drug out there[/I] that makes you go eat people's faces. That's a pure myth.
People have some crazy ass assumption that when you do drugs, you completely lose control and automatically turn in to some violence machine. This is fucking retarded.
It's very debatable if "harder" drugs should be legalized, I'm not too sure on it myself, but I have to say if you think pot should remain illegal, you are an idiot.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;39540674]Getting yourself into situations where you can't prevent yourself from hurting other people is reckless behaviour. That's illegal no matter what, and it's still the user's fault. Legalizing drugs won't mean it's suddenly legal to go out and wreck shit because you're mad.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Reckless behaviour which endangers others is a problem whether drugs or "dangerous ideas" or "evil" or "the devil" or whatever else you care to mention are involved or not. The behaviour is the problem, not the drug.
i wish the people who weren't interested in the benefits of drugs, legal and illegal, researched them and the entire stigma that surrounds them (especially psychedelic drugs) as much as those who support it. at least it would take away the boring one-sidedness of this argument. it used to be fun to pester and heckle those with limited opinionated knowledge with medically backed-up studies and anecdotal evidence, but it began to get old. i do not believe the alteration of one's own consciousness should be decided by another, so long as that choice does not harm another individual (shaky territory as the entire ordeal is subjective).
hopefully i won't get called out ad hominem for slipping a little of my opinion into this post, but before the overall legalization of drugs, which is far from happening, i would first like to see many of the useful psycho-therapeutic drugs (MDMA, LSD, psilocybin mushrooms) utilized in a research capacity. in other words, continue much of the work of timothy leary and similar psychological revolutionaries of the 60's and 70s. i still hold fast to the opinion that the progress we would make in the medical and social fields would be unmatched.
I think that marijuana should be legal but with resonable restrictions. (kinda like it is with alcohol already)
[QUOTE=maeZtro;39596684]I think that marijuana should be legal but with resonable restrictions. (kinda like it is with alcohol already)[/QUOTE]
what about the other drugs that have been medically proven to be physochologically and physiologically safer than alcohol?
[QUOTE=AgentBoomstick;39604263]what about the other drugs that have been medically proven to be physochologically and physiologically safer than alcohol?[/QUOTE]
I think that those drugs should be legalized to. (as long as they don't make you a danger to society) there should still be basic restrictionlaws though like with alcohol
I think it would be even better if there were cafés like in Amsterdam with strict agerestriction.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;36914386]Yes it would be better to let the government squeeze a little something out of all the drug money that goes around everywhere due to people using drugs.[/QUOTE]
The wealth generated by legalizing drugs would go way beyond that.. by removing this incredibly lucrative business from criminals and the necessity for addicts to commit crime to fund their habbit - would both free up police to do other things and also hugely reduce insurance premiums. Some of money saved could then go into helping people address the issues that lead them to drugs and help them come off.. rather than as is currently the case further marginalising them by making them criminals.
[QUOTE=maeZtro;39630398]I think that those drugs should be legalized to. (as long as they don't make you a danger to society) there should still be basic restrictionlaws though like with alcohol
I think it would be even better if there were cafés like in Amsterdam with strict agerestriction.[/QUOTE]
I really don't think there are any other drugs that make you anymore a danger to society than alcohol, like alcohol really is one of the worst. It inhibits your motor function but still leaves you mobile (usually) and alters your perception in a way that may give you over confidence and such. I guess the closest thing I can think of is Cocaine, but that's not even as bad as the ol' booze.
[QUOTE=I AM THE LAW;39532362]Okay sure,let's sell ,meth, bath salts, acid, everyone's favorite mind tweaking drugs!
IT'S NOT LIKE THOSE THINGS MAKE MOST PEOPLE GO BAT SHIT MAD WHEN THEIR ON THEM OR ANYTHING.
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The Miami guy who ended up eating some dude's face wasn't even high on "Bath Salts" (Like MDPV). He only had cannabinoids in his system. And not even potent syntethic cannabinoids, but ol' Marijuana.
Drugs? I agree with most people that they should be illegal to sell as people/companies gain a hugeeeeee profit however, possession? That should be legalized, it's entirely up to the person carrying/taking the drug(s) as it is actually their own life and body (unless they're crazy and harming other people)....
Little late, but that's my opinion.
[QUOTE=Jake3497;39656544]Drugs? I agree with most people that they should be illegal to sell as people/companies gain a hugeeeeee profit however, possession? That should be legalized, it's entirely up to the person carrying/taking the drug(s) as it is actually their own life and body (unless they're crazy and harming other people)....
Little late, but that's my opinion.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with selling them then?
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;39656583]What's wrong with selling them then?[/QUOTE]
Exploiting an addictive market, capitalism knows no bounds and without restraints we'd have 6 yr olds pimping coke.
As more research has been conducted on the nature on virtually every psychoactive molecules we have found that psychoactive substances greatly inhibit the development of the brain in the adolescent years.
Cigarettes and, Alcohol, and a load of other substances are legal and has restraints associated with who is allowed to buy them. This is actually not that bad a model, more stuff just needs to be showed in the legal department.
Not that many kids actually smoke compared to the past which had much loser legislation revolving these 'issues'.
Every illegal drug trade is only restricted by the fact that it is contraband which only has two obvious results: Higher pricing and inferior quality duo to scarcity.
These two facts is what makes illegal drug trade "Bad". There are no guarantees that your product is what it is supposed to be. This grossly contributes to all the negative associating with living a drugged live. It's more expensive so you have to spend more money on it, making you that much less wealthy. Impurities that unlike the actual drug cannot be broken down by the body might be of harmful nature, this impacts health and mood, and in many cases result in chronic illnesses. The list of negatives goes on but I'm gonna stop it here.
I didn't say anything about illegal drug trade. I was replying to someone who believes drug use shouldn't be prohibited. In my opinion, allowing something but punishing everyone who enables that action is very hypocritical.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;39659529]I didn't say anything about illegal drug trade. I was replying to someone who believes drug use shouldn't be prohibited. In my opinion, allowing something but punishing everyone who enables that action is very hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
You will undoubtedly run intro contradictions when you analyze laws based on morality.
Laws are based on principles though. If it's fine to take drugs, where's the harm in selling them?
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;39660390]Laws are based on principles though. If it's fine to take drugs, where's the harm in selling them?[/QUOTE]
Laws are based on politics. It(In my opinion) is not universally fine to take drugs, adolescents shouldn't do them(or too many), kids certainly shouldn't have to deal with a drug market, they can't even deal with sugar. Prohibition is idiotic and unmindful selling is too.
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