[QUOTE=Garry #2;40326232]What opinions do you guys have on Agile guitars?[/QUOTE]
I own one, and it's easily the best thing I've ever played. Mind, I put another $400 into it afterwards, but that's a lot easier to do when the starting price is reasonable.
I played one of the agile les paul copies and it played great after a setup. The pickups on some models are kind of meh but that's an easy fix.
Seems that Squier are upping their game.
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They don't look cheap even in the photos (where as in old photos, they did), and apparently they're made of alder. Affinity basses, made of alder. I might consider getting one of the Jazz basses if I ever feel the need for a Jazz.
[QUOTE=dcalde78;40338203]Seems that Squier are upping their game.
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They don't look cheap even in the photos (where as in old photos, they did), and apparently they're made of alder. Affinity basses, made of alder. I might consider getting one of the Jazz basses if I ever feel the need for a Jazz.[/QUOTE]
It's not just the basses, a few days ago I spent the day at both sam ash and guitar center just picking up strats and teles off the wall and one of the best teles I played, or at least the one whose neck I liked the best, I looked at the headstock and couldn't believe it was an affinity series. The neck was either unfinished or finished in really thin satin because it felt like bare wood, but in a really good way, I loved it. Is that new? I remember affinity series having a full gloss poly coat everywhere...
I still been looking for a squier tele and I might not even have to go all the way in with classic vibe, might have to upgrade the pickups in an affinity if I get one of those though. They sounded aight to me, not particularly special, but the guitar itself was great.
Yeah Squier is not a nasty name in the guitar world anymore. I have picked up bullet strats that feel alright. Pop a new set of pickups into some of them and you have a very decent guitar.
[editline]19th April 2013[/editline]
I might buy that Squier P bass with the PJ pickups. I am thinking olympic white and then replace the pickguard with a tortoise pickguard.
yeah, brands like epiphone and squier are becoming more popular since Fender and Gibson upped all their prices to the thousands.
Well the price thing is simply the idea that, like I said about business earlier, those two big companies are so big because they've made it a point in their history to create great guitars on purpose, not by accident. They've also had their quality control slips in the past, especially Gibson, and I mean god damn Gibson was fucking up for a while, but they've also in the past delivered such quality that their brand hasn't suffered that much from it. Everyone still wants a genuine USA Fender or Gibson, that's their marketing strategy, that's the demographic to which they appeal, so they charge a premium.
But Squier and Epiphone both have vast product lines that cater to lots of different market segments, some of them being in the "good guitars by accident" category, you know, the "hey I didn't expect this to be this good but I'm pleasantly surprised" kind of guitar. However, and this is what's so significant about Squier recently, they've really really stepped their game up, all of the gold or silver labeled squiers, the ones that don't use black lettering on the headstock logo, are in an entirely different class from the other ones. And, at least according to the product rep in this video, the Affinity series is now gold label, they've all been upgraded with new colors, higher quality pickguards, new pickup options for the basses, all made of alder, with those great new smooth bare necks that I hope they bring over to the classic vibe series because currently that's really all the MiM Fenders have over the classic vibe is the smooth no gloss neck. Well, I like it a lot better anyway, some people might prefer the gloss. I know the American and even the Mexican Fender stuff transitioned to satin necks a while ago so I'm probably not alone in preferring it over gloss.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K_9b47Ub-U[/media]
Edit: Watched one of the related videos to that one, and apparently Classic Vibe got elevated in status too. The whole Squier hierarchy has shifted. 2013 Classic Vibes also got upgraded pickguards, nicer appointments, some have matching headstocks, new pickup options, and from what I could see in the video, looks like they have the new satin neck.
Man, I bought my CV too damn early. Sod's fucking law. Shit yeah I bought this wicked bass aw no they made them better! Fuck!
Oh well. I can't say I'm not pleased with the Squier. I really like the bridge. Makes me wonder why anyone uses those regular stamped bridges, they just look flimsy by comparison. I think I might get the Steve Harris sig Duncans at some point. And I'm thinking about routing a J into the neck position of my Kramer. I think it could do with the extra beef in the low end.
[QUOTE=J Paul;40354676]Everyone still wants a genuine USA Fender or Gibson, that's their marketing strategy, that's the demographic to which they appeal, so they charge a premium.[/QUOTE]
I am fairly positive this is bullshit for a couple reasons, though it's an understandable assumption.
Fender thinks the stock market does not "value the company appropriately", which is generally code for "we're stagnant with regards to revenue and image and don't want to admit it"; indeed their growth prospects (as a parent company, so including Squier) are so shit that they were universally considered a bad potential investment had their IPO gone through. That would suggest people don't want Fenders, and given the IPO was only considered because Weston Presidio thought Fender was dead in the water, that means people don't even want Fender. :v:
I can't speak to Gibson, but both Fender and Gibson are associated with Guitar Center and get a substantial amount of sales through it. GC's been hemorrhaging money since 2008. Part of it is that the "collector" guitar market imploded on itself over quality control issues, which isn't something that cannot be fixed via executives talking about fixing it. Right now the vintage resale market for both brands is huge, because people do not believe a modern "genuine" is good enough. So you've got the largest guitar retail chain in the country some $20 million in the hole to Fender and Gibson just on [I]stock,[/I] because it [I]cannot sell the guitars[/i]... would indicate to me that very few people want a Genyooeen Fender or Gibson. Given small brands are still moving units, the recession excuse doesn't fly either.
At a minimum, you cannot reasonably conclude people care about Fender anymore, it's fairly conclusive that the brand is capital F Fucked. Gibson's up in the air but I wouldn't hold my breath.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;40357993]I am fairly positive this is bullshit for a couple reasons, though it's an understandable assumption.
Fender thinks the stock market does not "value the company appropriately", which is generally code for "we're stagnant with regards to revenue and image and don't want to admit it"; indeed their growth prospects (as a parent company, so including Squier) are so shit that they were universally considered a bad potential investment had their IPO gone through. That would suggest people don't want Fenders, and given the IPO was only considered because Weston Presidio thought Fender was dead in the water, that means people don't even want Fender. :v:
I can't speak to Gibson, but both Fender and Gibson are associated with Guitar Center and get a substantial amount of sales through it. GC's been hemorrhaging money since 2008. Part of it is that the "collector" guitar market imploded on itself over quality control issues, which isn't something that cannot be fixed via executives talking about fixing it. Right now the vintage resale market for both brands is huge, because people do not believe a modern "genuine" is good enough. So you've got the largest guitar retail chain in the country some $20 million in the hole to Fender and Gibson just on [I]stock,[/I] because it [I]cannot sell the guitars[/i]... would indicate to me that very few people want a Genyooeen Fender or Gibson. Given small brands are still moving units, the recession excuse doesn't fly either.
At a minimum, you cannot reasonably conclude people care about Fender anymore, it's fairly conclusive that the brand is capital F Fucked. Gibson's up in the air but I wouldn't hold my breath.[/QUOTE]
Yeah you're absolutely right about their new product line. It is far more common for someone to seek a vintage guitar from one of those brands. I think Squier's recent rise to prominence and premium quality can be directly attributed to when the economy took a shit and people, like you said, literally stopped buying collector's guitars a few years ago. It could come back though, but with such quality coming out of the far east yeah you're right, it doesn't matter what it says on the headstock anymore, especially for Fender stuff.
But the two brands still have great leverage in the used market though, I don't think that'll ever go away. So yeah you're right, let me modify my first statement, Fender and Gibson definitely hold sway over the used market, but yeah you're right that doesn't help the company or the brand at all, it kinda hurts it because the guitar community is just passing around the same old stock between eachother.
The big question now that need to be asked in Gibson and Fender's board rooms is how do we get people to buy our new stock. Fender I have no idea what the answers are. But Gibson's not doing too terribly at that, they've made their entire line of standards less expensive and now offer lots of more competitive options and models and they've fixed a lot of quality control issues so that's a step in the right direction, but yeah you're right, the new guitar market is fucked for the big 2 unless changes are made, and soon.
I think buying an epiphone or squier about 4 years ago would have bugged the hell out of me because it always seemed like settling for second best which I really hate. But when the time came to actually buy my explorer that feeling was gone. Especially on Squier's part, the products they offer for the price is an extreme value right now. I pick up a MIM strat and then a Squier and the difference is not much. The pickups and hardware might be a little cheaper on the Squier but the hardware is very workable and a pickup change is not that expensive or hard anymore.
So I have a VC-15 110 and I'm looking to upgrade the sound (volume). Problem is, the amp cuts off its own speakers when hooked to a cab, so I'm wondering if spending another 250 on a 112 cab is really worth it as an "upgrade".
Try one of those tech-21 powered amplified cabinets or something I dunno. I can help more in the morning.
this guy: [URL]http://tech21nyc.com/products/powerengine/powerengine60.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;40357993]I am fairly positive this is bullshit for a couple reasons, though it's an understandable assumption.
Fender thinks the stock market does not "value the company appropriately", which is generally code for "we're stagnant with regards to revenue and image and don't want to admit it"; indeed their growth prospects (as a parent company, so including Squier) are so shit that they were universally considered a bad potential investment had their IPO gone through. That would suggest people don't want Fenders, and given the IPO was only considered because Weston Presidio thought Fender was dead in the water, that means people don't even want Fender. :v:
I can't speak to Gibson, but both Fender and Gibson are associated with Guitar Center and get a substantial amount of sales through it. GC's been hemorrhaging money since 2008. Part of it is that the "collector" guitar market imploded on itself over quality control issues, which isn't something that cannot be fixed via executives talking about fixing it. Right now the vintage resale market for both brands is huge, because people do not believe a modern "genuine" is good enough. So you've got the largest guitar retail chain in the country some $20 million in the hole to Fender and Gibson just on [I]stock,[/I] because it [I]cannot sell the guitars[/i]... would indicate to me that very few people want a Genyooeen Fender or Gibson. Given small brands are still moving units, the recession excuse doesn't fly either.
At a minimum, you cannot reasonably conclude people care about Fender anymore, it's fairly conclusive that the brand is capital F Fucked. Gibson's up in the air but I wouldn't hold my breath.[/QUOTE]
Which as a consequence, Brings other smaller brands like schecter, ibanez, and agile to the top, Because they actually sell product.
Another part of the reason is GC signed a contract that basically forces them to sell both gibsons and fenders.
In my area there was actually a large scandal about GC just sending back guitars and getting their serial erased and switched for a "newer" one, to save money. It was in the paper a while back, but i can't seem to find it now.
did you guys ever heard an g#0 on an 8 string? Check this out (also me on vocals):
[media]http://soundcloud.com/caynug/unjustly-labeled-crushing[/media]
this is a crazy project between a guy from sevenstring and me, we both do an album together. Currently I am putting demo vocals on a few songs. Not even meshuggah went that low with their song spasm :v:
[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;40363708]Try one of those tech-21 powered amplified cabinets or something I dunno. I can help more in the morning.
this guy: [URL]http://tech21nyc.com/products/powerengine/powerengine60.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
That's cool, but my question was if getting a 1x12 is worth the money when my vc-15 1x10 laney's speakers get cut off when i hook it to a cab. How much more powerful would a 112 be?
When working on chords, what is the best way to work on making the "stretch" feeling less? I'm doing a D minor and my third finger really stretches to hit the third fret. Should I just keep forming the chord until the stretch feeling goes away?
[QUOTE=gerbile5;40399514]When working on chords, what is the best way to work on making the "stretch" feeling less? I'm doing a D minor and my third finger really stretches to hit the third fret. Should I just keep forming the chord until the stretch feeling goes away?[/QUOTE]
buy an ukulele.
I think you need to practise a bit more on the chords so your fingers can stretch further. Maybe try to play the chord differently? It might be because your fingers are to small in length.
[QUOTE=Darkslicer;40399555]buy an ukulele.
I think you need to practise a bit more on the chords so your fingers can stretch further. Maybe try to play the chord differently? It might be because your fingers are to small in length.[/QUOTE]
"Too small" implies he'll never be able to do it. He will if he keeps practicing.
I dont care what any of you say, but my goal is to own a Parker Fly at some point in my life. God damn they are so expensive
I wish I would follow my dreams I had years ago... I just wanted to own a nice guitar (mostly a sig from an guitarist I really liked) but nowadays I am drifting off like an idiot.. Buy an 8string my head said.. I bought an guitar head, pod hd, acoustic guitar (I already have 2 ffs) and no I can't get the money for an 8 string yet because first I need an full bass stack equipment because I am changing slots in my band (AGAIN FFS I paid over 500€ on the drums then changed to guitar and vocals where I paid another 700€ and now BASS and vocals) and I want an freaking violin, then comes the 8string.
I'm stupid and I love it :v:
/rant?
if I can get my LTD sold any time soon I'll probably swirl my RGD7421 in lots of happy colors, throw some good pickups in it and get a Hipshot bridge. oh and new tuners
[editline]24th April 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Darkslicer;40399761]I wish I would follow my dreams I had years ago... I just wanted to own a nice guitar (mostly a sig from an guitarist I really liked) but nowadays I am drifting off like an idiot.. Buy an 8string my head said.. I bought an guitar head, pod hd, acoustic guitar (I already have 2 ffs) and no I can't get the money for an 8 string yet because first I need an full bass stack equipment because I am changing slots in my band (AGAIN FFS I paid over 500€ on the drums then changed to guitar and vocals where I paid another 700€ and now BASS and vocals) and I want an freaking violin, then comes the 8string.
I'm stupid and I love it :v:
/rant?[/QUOTE]
I change my mind all the time too
Guitarists are like puberty girls, they change their mind all the time. xoxo <3
How do you guys feel about Sterling guitars?
[QUOTE=Garry #2;40401227]How do you guys feel about Sterling guitars?[/QUOTE]
they're supposedly great. my next guitar is gonna be a sterling
unless I change my mind, which I probably will
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