• Guitar Discussion V10 - February 2013 edition
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well shit ok. seems like it be easier for me to just buy a new guitar.
[QUOTE=war_man333;40857769]It's just a replica, a Gibson Epiphone Dot Cherry... I mean 350 dollars is nearly as much as the guitar itself is worth.[/QUOTE] If that is the price with the hardware included then that is about the standard that most shops charge. I have installed a couple floyds on non trem guitars and it requires a lot of work. I did an epiphone les paul and it took me about 7 1/2 hours start to finish to route out the body to accept a trem and then I had to make a trem cover for the back and create a nut shelf for the locking nut to sit on. It is a pretty involved process, but because I am a nice guy I only charged them $75 over the cost of the parts because they are friends. Now if the guitar is already equipped with a tremolo or better yet is a fender strat then the price (not including the hardware) is between $25-50 depending on the amount of work to modify existing trem mounts and nut shelf. [editline]1st June 2013[/editline] [url]http://2011.bestofnamm.com/products/view/les-paul-retro-fit-floyd-rose[/url] I guess you could get one of those.
isnt a floyd rose kinda eeh... a "harsh" trem for an epiphone dot? wouldn't a bigsby suit that guitar more?
[QUOTE=HoldenC;40869591]isnt a floyd rose kinda eeh... a "harsh" trem for an epiphone dot? wouldn't a bigsby suit that guitar more?[/QUOTE] That's how I feel personally, but I mean there is no right or wrong way to do it. Just never been a trem user myself so a bigsby is about as far as I go. And with the vibramate you wouldn't even have to modify the guitar. I'm pretty sure the vibramates work for both gibson and epiphone spacings and original and licensed bigsbys but obviously I'd do some research into that before buying one.
I could never really see myself putting a floyd on a guitar like that but some people like to experiment I guess.
I wouldn't put a Floyd on any guitar that didn't already have a trem. It's a massive amount of work, and the neck angle will be all wrong, leaving the Floyd suspended above the body instead of nicely flush with it. A Bigsby is still probably a lot of work, but it seems easier to do that and use a roller TOM than to do a Floyd. It's been a while since I recorded anything, but I put this one together over the course of this evening. It's a rhythm and lead cover of The Sound of Winter by Bush. I'm not a huge fan of the band, but I did like this song. It's really simple, I used the whole song instead of a drum/bass backing track because the baseline is so simple and repetitive that I kept getting lost. But, it's got a fun little solo and I got to play around with trying to make my Blackstar sound grungy. [media]http://soundcloud.com/used-car-salesman/the-sound-of-winter-lead[/media]
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;40872148]I wouldn't put a Floyd on any guitar that didn't already have a trem. It's a massive amount of work, and the neck angle will be all wrong, leaving the Floyd suspended above the body instead of nicely flush with it. A Bigsby is still probably a lot of work, but it seems easier to do that and use a roller TOM than to do a Floyd. It's been a while since I recorded anything, but I put this one together over the course of this evening. It's a rhythm and lead cover of The Sound of Winter by Bush. I'm not a huge fan of the band, but I did like this song. It's really simple, I used the whole song instead of a drum/bass backing track because the baseline is so simple and repetitive that I kept getting lost. But, it's got a fun little solo and I got to play around with trying to make my Blackstar sound grungy. [media]http://soundcloud.com/used-car-salesman/the-sound-of-winter-lead[/media][/QUOTE] A bigsby used to be a decent amount of work but with the invention of the vibramate it's like a 5 minute install with no modifications to the guitar at all, and it'll work perfectly with the normal neck angle of any guitar with a tuneomatic bridge and tailpiece configuration. A roller bridge will definitely help with tuning stability though, and that can also be installed with very little effort. If you need a trem on a dot I'd say get a Bigsby with a vibramate and a rolling bridge.
[QUOTE=J Paul;40872250]A bigsby used to be a decent amount of work but with the invention of the vibramate it's like a 5 minute install with no modifications to the guitar at all, and it'll work perfectly with the normal neck angle of any guitar with a tuneomatic bridge and tailpiece configuration. A roller bridge will definitely help with tuning stability though, and that can also be installed with very little effort. If you need a trem on a dot I'd say get a Bigsby with a vibramate and a rolling bridge.[/QUOTE] I didn't know what a vibramate was until I just now looked it up. Looks easy as hell, it just piggybacks on the original stop tailpiece screws. That definitely seems like the way to go for a Dot. The retrofit Floyd that was posted earlier is an interesting idea. It beats trying to install a regular Floyd on a TOM guitar. If it ever makes it to market I may look into getting one for the Explorer just for shits and divebombing giggles.
Yeah I though about putting one on my explorer but I decided not to, like I said I installed a floyd rose on a epi les paul but it isn't practical and the dot is just not meant for a floyd rose...
just mount it on the headstock it'll be fine
he never said floyd guys, I gave floyd as an example of a system that I'd charge $350 to install
I bought one of these old basses from Soviet, made in Moscow in the 70s. Of course Soviet had their own standard for instrument cables, so I'll be taking it apart to replace the output and figured I might as well see if i can do something fun with it, built-in effects or something like that. Any suggestions? [t]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5227/5633455034_7a1e6ef34a_b.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=A Noobcake;40873957]I bought one of these old basses from Soviet, made in Moscow in the 70s. Of course Soviet had their own standard for instrument cables, so I'll be taking it apart to replace the output and figured I might as well see if i can do something fun with it, built-in effects or something like that. Any suggestions? [t]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5227/5633455034_7a1e6ef34a_b.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/17-5DIN-stereo-cable-adapter-for-Soviet-USSR-Russian-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-BASS-SYNTH-/180965393203[/url] I had one of those and it was a really cool bass but a piece of pine with strings nailed to it would have played better [editline]2nd June 2013[/editline] btw that model I think was made in ural, not moscow
My neighbor is a really nice older lady and she made me a necklace with a guitar pick on it. It's useful as it is because it's great to never have to think about having a pick, it's just right there always if I happen to drop or lose the one(s) I usually carry in my pocket. But I figured out that it can also be extremely useful as a new tool; I can wrap the necklace around my hand in such a way that the pick stays put and I can let go of it to get my fleshy thumb sound that I like and then do some strums with the pick and let it drop away again. I can go back and forth from full fingerpicking to hybrid picking at will. I usually hybrid pick of course, but this is even more extended than that because I can use my thumb now. It's way better for this than a thumbpick because I can't get the flesh sound with a thumb pick. It's an unexpected and accidental innovation. I'm sure someone's done it before though, but it's new for me.
So this is interesting... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxnB1gAUTwc[/media]
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;40893449]So this is interesting... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxnB1gAUTwc[/media][/QUOTE] That girl in the bottom right has a good voice.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;40895539]That girl in the bottom right has a good voice.[/QUOTE] Indeed, I didn't know she could sing. That is actually Rabea's (the guy behind her) girlfriend.
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;40893449]So this is interesting... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxnB1gAUTwc[/media][/QUOTE] Chappers is so great. That's actually pretty decent a capella singing. They're nicely in tune (after Chappers' awfully flat top note at the start...)- I'm so excited for Dorje to release an album.
[QUOTE=kitthehacker;40896024]Chappers is so great. That's actually pretty decent a capella singing. They're nicely in tune (after Chappers' awfully flat top note at the start...)- I'm so excited for Dorje to release an album.[/QUOTE] Yeah me too, aeromancy is on my list of top favorite songs. The solo is so fun to play.
Heres some 12 semitones lower tuned stuff from me with ezdrummer rock solid and slap bass: [media]http://soundcloud.com/caynug/chubsnug-mixtest[/media]
Have you ever written something in E standard haha your mixes are getting better and better!
[QUOTE=Darkslicer;40903259]Heres some 12 semitones lower tuned stuff from me with ezdrummer rock solid and slap bass: [media]http://soundcloud.com/caynug/chubsnug-mixtest[/media][/QUOTE] why not just play a bass
Looking for a 3/4 guitar I can camp and travel with. Any recommendations? I looked at some Luna stuff and Yamaha.
[QUOTE=zacht_180;40905555]Looking for a 3/4 guitar I can camp and travel with. Any recommendations? I looked at some Luna stuff and Yamaha.[/QUOTE] Ibanez Mikro for electric, learn ukelele otherwise.
So I went to play one of the new Fender lacquer strats today and man I love the feel of lacquer. [url]http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Classic-Series--50s-Stratocaster-Lacquer-109134437-i3080696.gc[/url] Very nice guitar for the price. I am really starting to love the soft V neck profile, I played an older strat with the hard V profile and hated it but this feels nice in my hands. And I also like Fender taking a leap to make nitro finished guitars at an affordable price. If I were to buy a poly strat I probably would have ended up refinishing it.
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;40907554]So I went to play one of the new Fender lacquer strats today and man I love the feel of lacquer. [url]http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Classic-Series--50s-Stratocaster-Lacquer-109134437-i3080696.gc[/url] Very nice guitar for the price. I am really starting to love the soft V neck profile, I played an older strat with the hard V profile and hated it but this feels nice in my hands. And I also like Fender taking a leap to make nitro finished guitars at an affordable price. If I were to buy a poly strat I probably would have ended up refinishing it.[/QUOTE] I'm with you man nitro is where it's at, 100%. Saw the recent andertons review for these and I've been wanting one ever since. I think when I finally get a tele, instead of going for a classic vibe tele, I'm just going to get one of [url=http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Classic-Series--50s-Telecaster-Lacquer-109134114-i3080672.gc]these[/url], I'm just a sucker for nitro. Too bad they didn't have the telecaster in stock for the andertons review. Also too bad they don't have a blonde pine one for that esquire look, but the white blonde on ash is super pretty as well so I'm totally cool with that. Maybe there'll be a pine blonde one by the time I save up some extra money lol. Poly just feels like the instrument is entombed in plastic, which it kinda is; Nitro's the real way to finish a piece of wood. With acoustic guitars it makes a really significant difference in the tone, but I feel that even on solid body electrics nitro kind of opens it up and seems to let it breathe. I admit though, maybe for electrics it doesn't [i]really[/i] sound better, maybe that's just a placebo and my brain is fooling my ears, but I'm absolutely damn sure nito definitely feels and looks better so that's more than enough to justify the cost with or without a tonal improvement.
[QUOTE=J Paul;40907631]I'm with you man nitro is where it's at, 100%. Saw the recent andertons review for these and I've been wanting one ever since. I think when I finally get a tele, instead of going for a classic vibe tele, I'm just going to get one of [url=http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Classic-Series--50s-Telecaster-Lacquer-109134114-i3080672.gc]these[/url], I'm just a sucker for nitro. Too bad they didn't have the telecaster in stock for the andertons review. Also too bad they don't have a blonde pine one for that esquire look, but the white blonde on ash is super pretty as well so I'm totally cool with that. Maybe there'll be a pine blonde one by the time I save up some extra money lol. Poly just feels like the instrument is entombed in plastic, which it kinda is; Nitro's the real way to finish a piece of wood. With acoustic guitars it makes a really significant difference in the tone, but I feel that even on solid body electrics nitro kind of opens it up and seems to let it breathe. I admit though, maybe for electrics it doesn't [i]really[/i] sound better, maybe that's just a placebo and my brain is fooling my ears, but I'm absolutely damn sure nito definitely feels and looks better so that's more than enough to justify the cost with or without a tonal improvement.[/QUOTE] I think my favorite thing about nitro is how it wears, poly just chips which can have a certain charm in some cases but I just don't like it. I saw that andertons review as well and as soon as I heard they had them in stock at my local GC I rushed there. They play really good with a decent action, have to kind of keep it a little high to keep it from fretting out when bending but it's not too high.
[QUOTE=Nazereth666;40907769]I think my favorite thing about nitro is how it wears, poly just chips which can have a certain charm in some cases but I just don't like it. I saw that andertons review as well and as soon as I heard they had them in stock at my local GC I rushed there. They play really good with a decent action, have to kind of keep it a little high to keep it from fretting out when bending but it's not too high.[/QUOTE] Yeah they don't really have a modern radius but I'm fine with that, I don't need a really low action anyway, I prefer something that has at least a little movement. I love the vintage look and vibe of them, they're pretty much period correct all around. The tele even has the three barrel saddles instead of the six individual ones so that's kinda why I wish they'd do a pine blonde one, it'd be like the closest thing to a 1950 double pickup esquire prototype, or even closer to a broadcaster or nocaster, that you could buy nowadays. The broadcasters had truss rods so even that would be period correct. All around they really nailed the vintage vibe with this line of guitars. And the way nitro wears is so much better than poly it's not even in the same ballpark. Satin nitro especially, it's much much less expensive than a gloss nitro finish yet it actually becomes glossy over time the more you touch it which is like the guitar is somehow making itself prettier and more expensive looking, it's fantastic.
It pretty much seems like they took the squier idea of classic vibe and made a fender version.
I have a pretty nice guitar, cost around 450$, has a built in tuner and plugs into an amp as well [img]http://i41.tinypic.com/1zbzu8.jpg[/img]
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