Guitar Discussion V10 - February 2013 edition - General

Meshuggah best band: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtstAclxxgU[/media]

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;40960145]Meshuggah best band: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtstAclxxgU[/media][/QUOTE] Dat MIDI. I have guitar pro, i could totally do this to any song :v:

[QUOTE=dcalde78;40958805]This is my band's EP artwork. It wasn't finished at this stage and how has the band name and track listing on it. It is entirely hand painted with acrylic paint. It is amazing. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/liALFKf.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] a giant naked goblin dave mustaine i have seen everything [editline]9th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Darkslicer;40960145]Meshuggah best band: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtstAclxxgU[/media][/QUOTE] hahaha those vocals

[QUOTE=deggemannen;40959214]Is that Dave Mustaine[/QUOTE] I knew someone would say that :v: It is not Mustaine, it's my band's spitting image of Dave Mustaine lead guitarist. He looks like Mustaine but uses 80s Hetfield gear - Marshall with a boost pedal, Explorers with active pups. On a different note with our EP, we're looking to get some tasters done from each of the tracks sometime soon. When they're live I'll share them here and see what you guys think. We originally wanted to sound something like AC/DC or Airbourne on steroids. From local guys, we've been classed as thrash, speed and heavy metal. I lean more towards the heavy metal description. [editline]9th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DesumThePanda;40960601]a giant naked goblin dave mustaine i have seen everything[/QUOTE] don't forget the naked chick driving the Chevy Bel Air with her vag

I've become totally addicted to Muse and playing their music. I'm beginning to be able to play Unnatural Selection. Some of their songs are really really easy though, for example Hysteria and Plug In Baby. Others seem impossible... Stockholm Syndrome... dat riff.

[QUOTE=war_man333;40999740]I've become totally addicted to Muse and playing their music. I'm beginning to be able to play Unnatural Selection. Some of their songs are really really easy though, for example Hysteria and Plug In Baby. Others seem impossible... Stockholm Syndrome... dat riff.[/QUOTE] Slow it down, way down and you will be amazed how simple it is. Then speed it up. I thought the solo for Aeromancy was impossible... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkJrBBD3xpE[/media]

it's quite simple yeah but I can't play that fast. yet.

[QUOTE=war_man333;40999879]it's quite simple yeah but I can't play that fast. yet.[/QUOTE] That's what I mean by slow it down, when you can play it cleanly slow then start to slowly speed it up. I bet you within a couple hours if you stick with it you can play it at normal speed. Maybe even less depending.

[QUOTE=dcalde78;40963393] It is not Mustaine, it's my band's spitting image of Dave Mustaine lead guitarist.[/QUOTE] Pic please.

Good god I could listen to him for hours. And holy shit he used to work at mcdonalds... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv753X9q_x0[/media]

What do you guys think is the best microphone to record directly from an amp? Its for guitar

[QUOTE=Garry #2;41013759]What do you guys think is the best microphone to record directly from an amp? Its for guitar[/QUOTE] There is no 'best' really. It depends on the particular sound you want for that application. Shure SM57 is an industry standard though, it's excellent, has likely been used on the majority of the recordings you or any of us have heard. But one thing you might want to do is pair it up with another mic, preferably a darker or bassier one, that way you can blend the two to get the exact right sound. If the amp sounds perfect to your ears, then the mic's only job is to get that sound on record, and the sound of any mic is highly dependent on the placement of the mic, so once the amp sounds perfect by itself, just try out different mics in different places 'till you hear the same sound on the recording.

[QUOTE=Garry #2;41013759]What do you guys think is the best microphone to record directly from an amp? Its for guitar[/QUOTE] if you're willing to spend a buttload of money the best in my experience is the royer r-121, but the shure sm57/sm58 is industry standard and most people will say it's sufficient, which is a good deal considering it costs about $1000 less. great thing about the sm57/58 is that they don't lose a dime of resale value if they don't get beat up. if you're just gonna use this a few times the sure mics are probably the best bet. if you're not quite getting the sound you want, experiment with mic placement. it will sound totally different towards the edges than it will near the center of the cone, ideally you'll have one mic dead center, one panned off to the side at an angle, and one at the back of the speaker if the amp is open-back [img]http://www.untidymusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mic_placement.jpg[/img] [editline]13th June 2013[/editline] the shure mics are really durable too, I've seen sales reps at gear shows hammer nails into 2x4s with them.

I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I wouldn't know, but wouldn't having one mic behind the speaker give you phasing issues? I do know that you want the mics at the same distance from the speaker, wouldn't that be difficult if one's in the back? All of my cabinets are closed back so I really haven't looked into this too much. But yeah the rest of that I'm with you 100%, that's why I mentioned the fact that your primary goal is to get the amp to sound perfect to your ears in the room, once you achieve that, don't mess with it, if the mics come through too trebly, just move it a little away from the dust cap, that kind of thing. Once the amp sounds perfect all you have to do is mess with the mic placement till you can get that sound on record. Towards the center of the dust cap you'll get brighter sounds, towards the outer edge of the speaker cone is where you'll find the bass, so a good starting point for an SM57 is probably somewhere in the middle like the place where the dust cap meets the cone.

[QUOTE=J Paul;41014543]I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I wouldn't know, but wouldn't having one mic behind the speaker give you phasing issues? I do know that you want the mics at the same distance from the speaker, wouldn't that be difficult if one's in the back? All of my cabinets are closed back so I really haven't looked into this too much. But yeah the rest of that I'm with you 100%, that's why I mentioned the fact that your primary goal is to get the amp to sound perfect to your ears in the room, once you achieve that, don't mess with it, if the mics come through too trebly, just move it a little away from the dust cap, that kind of thing. Once the amp sounds perfect all you have to do is mess with the mic placement till you can get that sound on record. Towards the center of the dust cap you'll get brighter sounds, towards the outer edge of the speaker cone is where you'll find the bass, so a good starting point for an SM57 is probably somewhere in the middle like the place where the dust cap meets the cone.[/QUOTE] I have mic'd open back cabinets before with a mic in front and I haven't run into any problems, I think it is kind of like when you use a mic to record the room your amp is in. I think at a certain distance the sound coming from the amp isn't being fed directly into the mic and therefore phasing issues don't exist. Granted I could be wrong considering I don't get into the science of micing an amp, I usually just shove some mics on an amp and put them where it sounds good.

[QUOTE=Nazereth666;41014710]I have mic'd open back cabinets before with a mic in front and I haven't run into any problems, I think it is kind of like when you use a mic to record the room your amp is in. I think at a certain distance the sound coming from the amp isn't being fed directly into the mic and therefor phasing issues don't exist. Granted I could be wrong considering I don't get into the science of micing and amp, I usually just shove some mic on an amp and put them where it sounds good.[/QUOTE] Yeah I guess after a certain distance from the speaker it doesn't really matter when the sound hits the mic because it's picking up more ambient sounds than it is anything else so that makes sense. And yeah obviously it's always about what sounds good. If it sounds good, it makes sense.

Yeah, SM57/58 is a cliche for a reason. It's not broke, and it doesn't need to be fixed.

I learned first half of Holy Wars on a fucking strat, tremolo picking on strat is a bitch, you really have to put physical effort into it, it has a crappy humbucker at the bridge, even overdrive/distortion pedal of such quality as HT-DUAL does not save you. I did live cover of Black Sabbath's Snowblind in March, friend singer asked me to join up his band, happens that band had only him and bunch of dudes who were like no, we don't play live, so I ended up playing along him singing and had a session drummer whom I got to play with us, he couldn't drum to Metal so he drummed Jazz, at one point in the song he started filling up so much and it wasn't needed, he pushed me out of tempo for few seconds, I've almost shit myself but got back at original speed and he laughed about it afterwards when we were done playing. He was a bit annoying with his walking around at rehearsals and taping on legs with his hands to rhythm, but we pulled off the song pretty well even though I only rehearsed with the drummer for two hours day before gig and I had to put a lot of extra effort into playing and it being guitar and drums, no bass player, the surprising thing was that we had 100 people watching us in front and they all chanted happily at the end and some manager guy was interested in me and my friend, said he would help us find people willing to play with us if we need help. I wasn't even stressed until the moment we went to play but then walked up to stage and lights warmed up my cold hands and stiff fingers. I've played the first solo originally then improvised the last one as Iommi tends to do with bits and snippets of licks.

My local guitar shop just started selling G&L guitars. Why aren't they very popular? I can honestly say all the G&Ls I tried out sounded and felt better than any Fender in the store. I mostly played around with tribute series ASATs and they were a whole lot of guitar for under 500 dollars.

[QUOTE=TheEconomy;41016331]My local guitar shop just started selling G&L guitars. Why aren't they very popular? I can honestly say all the G&Ls I tried out sounded and felt better than any Fender in the store. I mostly played around with tribute series ASATs and they were a whole lot of guitar for under 500 dollars.[/QUOTE] if you don't know the history behind g&l it's one of leo fender's brands. they're all improvements on classic fender designs. it's all fantastic but people are kinda resistant to change so g&l hasn't made as much impact as fender. they're really picking up the pace though these past few years, especially with bass players.

[QUOTE=butre;41016455]if you don't know the history behind g&l it's one of leo fender's brands. they're all improvements on classic fender designs. it's all fantastic but people are kinda resistant to change so g&l hasn't made as much impact as fender. they're really picking up the pace though these past few years, especially with bass players.[/QUOTE] I knew a little bit about the history. I very much agree with you on the bass player thing. I tried out a jb2 they had in the shop and it was a very comfortable and nice sounding guitar. I have a mim precision bass and I would pick the jb2 over it any day.

[QUOTE=Mr._N;41002909]Pic please.[/QUOTE] no real good quality pics but this is from our EP recording weekend. [video=youtube;R0_0mS1woE0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_0mS1woE0[/video] the main difference seems to be his hair. it's more mullety.

the main difference seems to be his face

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I'm so fucking sick and guitar is all i've been doing for two days straight. I should get sick more often

-stupid shit see below for info-

[QUOTE=Joazzz;41023235]somehow it feels comforting to know that you're 18 and can play the Am I Evil solo better than a widely-known thrash metal legend could play in his 20's :v:[/QUOTE] to be fair, most thrash metal legends were drunk or high 24/7

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;41023305]to be fair, most thrash metal legends were drunk or high 24/7[/QUOTE]STOP CRUSHING MY DREAMS

if you dudes are lookin for a fun as fuck acoustic song check out this rendition of here comes the sun: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CA3-teBRRE[/media] and the lesson he made for it [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIHS8QIq6RM[/media] check out the guy's account too. I swear all he does is play guitar.

[QUOTE=Schmaaa;41023305]to be fair, most thrash metal legends were drunk or high 24/7[/QUOTE] Dave Mustaine played worse on drugs or when high, at least he wrote better songs...own opinion.