[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870792]Oh, and you also think every Iraqi is an insurgant, nice job.[/QUOTE]
When the hell did I even say that?
[quote]I have to deal with people like you my entire day, including my professors, so why do I have to hear this stupid moonbat bullshit here too?[/quote]
There's no difference between a man who goes into a bank and shoots a teller and a man who shoots people for his country.
I'll pray for you dude.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16870791]Or if they're middle-eastern.
FYI Iraq did absolutely nothing to provoke our invasion, you haven't explained why soldiers deserve respect if they do something you think is wrong, and you haven't explained how the life of a civilian who has done nothing to harm you is worth less than a soldier's.[/QUOTE]
Because you blame the policy makers, not the warfighters. They do the job that has to be done, they act as the soldiers because nobody else will.
Blame politicians, not soldiers.
[QUOTE=Wangman;16870766]I just said if it came to it, I wouldn't be against it.[/QUOTE]
How would it ever, "come to it?" Every Iraqi draws an AK and tries to get on a plane to America?
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[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870809]Because you blame the policy makers, not the warfighters. They do the job that has to be done, they act as the soldiers because nobody else will.
Blame politicians, not soldiers.[/QUOTE]
Being ordered to do something wrong doesn't absolve you from doing it. And I DO blame the policy-makers. More than the soldiers. Doesn't make the soldiers who carry it out blameless.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870781]You guys call me a troll and you support this doucebag.[/QUOTE]
You're the douchebag. Get out you ignorant tree hugging scum.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870781]You guys call me a troll and you support this doucebag.[/QUOTE]
You honestly can't be seriously trying to tell us that in a situation where it's you or a man pointing a rifle in your face, you'd rather try and reason with him.
wangman if you aren't trolling you're fuckin stupid as hell bro along with all these other war fetishists
brotherhood before bombs
[QUOTE=Strider_07;16870837]You honestly can't be seriously trying to tell us that in a situation where it's you or a man pointing a rifle in your face, you'd rather try and reason with him.[/QUOTE]
I said that murder is wrong no matter what the reason, not that we should skip around hugging fucking trees all day.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16870841]wangman if you aren't trolling you're fuckin stupid as hell bro
brotherhood before bombs[/QUOTE]
Hey Pvt. Ryan, I'm starting "The Apolitical Mission for the Undumbifying of Mankind" with Conscript. Want to join?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16870791]Or if they're middle-eastern.
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Specifically, anyone at war with us. Race doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16870791]
FYI Iraq did absolutely nothing to provoke our invasion, you haven't explained why soldiers deserve respect if they do something you think is wrong, and you haven't explained how the life of a civilian who has done nothing to harm you is worth less than a soldier's.[/QUOTE]
I'll say it again: Google "nationalism".
A soldier's life is ALWAYS, without condition, of more value than a civilian of a country we are at war with.
Just so you can hate me more, I approove of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870847]I said that murder is wrong no matter what the reason, not that we should skip around hugging fucking trees all day.[/QUOTE]
hugging trees is unproductive when you could be planting them :smile:
[quote]A soldier's life is ALWAYS, without condition, of more value than a civilian of a country we are at war with.[/quote]
Fuck off.
[quote]hugging trees is unproductive when you could be planting them [/quote]
Yeah I suppose.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16870851]Hey Pvt. Ryan, I'm starting "The Apolitical Mission for the Undumbifying of Mankind" with Conscript. Want to join?[/QUOTE]
it's inherently political because one end of the spectrum is inherently better for humanity than the other
Alright, we live on planet Earth. There is war. That is not a changable fact for the time being. Until we can all discover some magic way to make infinite food and energy as well as make us all stop hating eachother, it will be like that.
We have soldiers, they do a duty not anyone can do. They fight, despite the reasoning, for the lives of the innocent.
They deserve respect.
it's the right end. trickle down economics
[QUOTE=Alde;16870847]I said that murder is wrong no matter what the reason, not that we should skip around hugging fucking trees all day.[/QUOTE]
I'm not laying blame, I'm trying to understand your position here. I interpreted your earlier statements as you saying you had absolutely no sense of self-preservation. And you didn't answer my question either, you're beating around the bush, Hannity-style.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870847]I said that murder is wrong no matter what the reason, not that we should skip around hugging fucking trees all day.[/QUOTE]
Same difference.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16870841]wangman if you aren't trolling you're fuckin stupid as hell bro along with all these other war fetishists
brotherhood before bombs[/QUOTE]
Your name doesn't fit your post.
[quote]They deserve respect. [/quote]
Why?
[quote]Same difference.[/quote]
Stop trolling.
[quote]And you didn't answer my question either, you're beating around the bush, Hannity-style. [/quote]
I've never seen you post in this thread.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870871]Alright, we live on planet Earth. There is war. That is not a changable fact for the time being. Until we can all discover some magic way to make infinite food and energy as well as make us all stop hating eachother, it will be like that.
We have soldiers, they do a duty not anyone can do. They fight, despite the reasoning, for the lives of the innocent.
They deserve respect.[/QUOTE]
yes okay now try to make an argument that is discernible from a 5 year old's
[QUOTE=Wangman;16870854]I'll say it again: Google "nationalism".
A soldier's life is ALWAYS, without condition, of more value than a civilian of a country we are at war with.
Just so you can hate me more, I approove of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings.[/QUOTE]
I know what nationalism is, but I've never heard of anyone taking it seriously except for Hitler, Mussolini, and Stormfront.org.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870847]I said that murder is wrong no matter what the reason, not that we should skip around hugging fucking trees all day.[/QUOTE]
You need to learn the definition of murder. Killing enemy combatants is not murder.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870804]When the hell did I even say that?
There's no difference between a man who goes into a bank and shoots a teller and a man who shoots people for his country.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to use that logic, then I'm guessing I'm a murderer for killing the spider in my sink last night, right?
What are you implying, that there should be no volunteer military, because the people that sign up are murderers? Great, so now we can be drafted. :downs: .
[QUOTE=Chippay;16869779]ryan you dumb motherfucker i just removed you from my invitation list because i couldn't send your ass [I]another[/I] invitation now there's a problem in sending it[/QUOTE]
ugh chippay you ignoramus what's your steamid
I added "chippay" but it said your name was bomba?
[QUOTE=Alde;16870483]Stop covering your ass.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LOLturtle;16870896]You need to learn the definition of murder. Killing enemy combatants is not murder.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it is, dipshit.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870871]Alright, we live on planet Earth. There is war. That is not a changable fact for the time being. Until we can all discover some magic way to make infinite food and energy as well as make us all stop hating eachother, it will be like that.
We have soldiers, they do a duty not anyone can do. They fight, despite the reasoning, for the lives of the innocent.
They deserve respect.[/QUOTE]
Will you please marry me? We can have a lovely wedding in the valley.
[QUOTE=Alde;16870865]Fuck off.
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No.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16870890]yes okay now try to make an argument that is discernible from a 5 year old's[/QUOTE]
How is accepting humanities shortcomings rather then hating heroes a 5 year old's argument?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16870891]I know what nationalism is, but I've never heard of anyone taking it seriously except for Hitler, Mussolini, and Stormfront.org.[/QUOTE]
yeah no shit nationalism is usually referred to as one of the causes of WW1
it's not exactly something to be proud of
[QUOTE=Alde;16870903]Yeah it is, dipshit.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not. You really need to seek a dictionary. Murder is the unlawful killing of another person. Killing an enemy combatant in a conflict/war IS NOT unlawful. Now get the fuck out you stupid ignorant piece of shit.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870912]How is accepting humanities shortcomings rather then hating heroes a 5 year old's argument?[/QUOTE]
Yeah they're heroes because they shoot people.
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