ITT: People de-rail the thread about someone going to fight for his country, talking about nationalism
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16870982]America both fought a nation who supported terrorism and was led by a crazed dictator.[/QUOTE]
Supported terrorism? Who armed the Mujahideen again?
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871052]
Your perspective.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what moral code you follow, but killing is never justified.
[quote]Middle East: Toppled dictators and fought terrorists who caused 9/11.[/quote]
hahahah
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871040]If you argue against the side logic supports, you are wrong.
Period. By definition of logic.[/QUOTE]
You believe in logic over emotion, no matter what?
I don't think like you do obviously.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16871046]then you obviously have not studied American history in any depth
chippay get in here[/QUOTE]
Cite anything "bad" America has done.
only on FACEPUNCH. immature kids argue about nationality.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871062]Supported terrorism? Who armed the Mujahideen again?[/QUOTE]
You are right, that was a fucking stupid policy. But the time was different, the leaders as well. While war is never the desired outcome, and our leaders may make mistakes, we should support troops because of their bravery.
I will now exit this thread. Alde is obviously an idiot who thinks killing enemy combatants, killing in self defense, etc. is murder.
:downs:
[QUOTE=Wangman;16870972]You don't think he should die?[/QUOTE]
Relax, I'm not trying to get him to back off his argument, I wanted to know if he had a sense of self-preservation.
[QUOTE=Alde;16871066]I have no idea what moral code you follow, but killing is never justified.[/QUOTE]
In my moral code, it can be. In yours, it can't.
That's why were argueing.
[QUOTE=Alde;16871066]I have no idea what moral code you follow, but killing is never justified.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure killing Hitler would be pretty justified. Please prove me wrong.
[quote]Cite anything "bad" America has done. [/quote]
Are you autistic?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871062]Supported terrorism? Who armed the Mujahideen again?[/QUOTE]
Or Nicaraguan death squads, and far right terrorist groups in central & south america? What about supporting Franco Francisco, the dictator of fascist Spain, simply because his rabid anti-communism was very appealing?
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871069]
Cite anything "bad" America has done.[/QUOTE]
Native Americans.
Sorry, I just had to say it. D:
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871062]Supported terrorism? Who armed the Mujahideen again?[/QUOTE]
Jimmy Carter hardly counts, he was practically the worst leader of the 20th century.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16871055]Revolution: Fought against monarch.
WWI: Helped Europe.
WWII: Helped Europe.
Vietnam/Korea: Admittedly a flawed war.
Middle East: Toppled dictators and fought terrorists who caused 9/11.
We aren't always the rambo-esque heroes, but we are usually pretty fucking right.[/QUOTE]
WW1 was a pointless war.
Vietnam and Korea weren't the only massacres Americans committed.
And the war on terror was a colossal failure.
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871069]Cite anything "bad" America has done.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Conscript;16871092]Or Nicaraguan death squads, and far right terrorist groups in central & south america? What about supporting Franco Francisco, the dictator of fascist Spain, simply because his rabid anti-communism was very appealing?[/QUOTE]
Ahem
You know, fuck it all. I'm out of this thread.
Forget politics, I hope you do well OP. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871106]Ahem[/QUOTE]
I could honestly go on
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;16871080]I will now exit this thread. Alde is obviously an idiot who thinks killing enemy combatants, killing in self defense, etc. is murder.
:downs:[/QUOTE]
No, stay. You fight well young squire.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;16871081]Relax, I'm not trying to get him to back off his argument, I wanted to know if he had a sense of self-preservation.[/QUOTE]
To be blunt, that wasn't addressed to you. I wanted to see if he held his life dear too.
We are allies.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16871055]Revolution: Fought against monarch.
WWI: Helped Europe.
WWII: Helped Europe.
Vietnam/Korea: Admittedly a flawed war.
Middle East: Toppled dictators and fought terrorists who caused 9/11.
We aren't always the rambo-esque heroes, but we are usually pretty fucking right.[/QUOTE]
hahahahahaha good lord you overlooked about 90% of American history
we are usually pretty fucking wrong especially if you look in the past 50 years
Hell, even the last 150 years. It's a real tragedy that the Spanish-American war and the Indian Wars aren't taught in a greater degree than they are. If you think America was a force of good historically then you are condoning a lot of very abhorrent things.
[QUOTE=Conscript;16871118]I could honestly go on[/QUOTE]
Oops I forgot Franco was a Spanish nationalist he must be right
[QUOTE=Alde;16871044]Great counter-argument.[/QUOTE]
If your that fucking smart, you should have the common fucking sense to know that killing people in a time of fucking war is acceptable, get the fuck out you god damn tree hugger.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16871094]Native Americans.
Sorry, I just had to say it. D:[/QUOTE]
Only a warrior such as you could oust me from power.
Well...I don't like Indian corn. So there.
Spanish American War and the Philippines Insurrection was pretty fucking rambo LOL! *proud2beanamerican* :911:
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871069]You believe in logic over emotion, no matter what?
I don't think like you do obviously.[/QUOTE]
What, correctly?
Logic is essentially the art of correctness.
[QUOTE=hijacker;16871145]If your that fucking smart, you should have the common fucking sense to know that killing people in a time of fucking war is acceptable, get the fuck out you god damn tree hugger.[/QUOTE]
Sur, plz take the blu pill.
[quote]If your that fucking smart, you should have the common fucking sense to know that [b]killing people in a time of fucking war is acceptable[/b], [b][i]get the fuck out you god damn tree hugger.[/b][/i][/quote]
And you say I'm the ignorant one.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16871125]hahahahahaha good lord you overlooked about 90% of American history
we are usually pretty fucking wrong especially if you look in the past 50 years
Hell, even the last 150 years. It's a real tragedy that the Spanish-American war and the Indian Wars aren't taught in a greater degree than they are. If you think America was a force of good historically then you are condoning a lot of very abhorrent things.[/QUOTE]
You can't paint everyone who isn't American as the good guys, either. There were idiots on both sides.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16871156]Spanish American War and the Philippines Insurrection was pretty fucking rambo LOL! *proud2beanamerican* :911:[/QUOTE]
stick it to the commies hooah
[QUOTE=Strider_07;16871165]You can't paint everyone who isn't American as the good guys, either. There were idiots on both sides.[/QUOTE]
No one is doing that
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