I agree with the majority that the US has done a lot of bad things. But we've also done a lot of good things, far more than any other country has. [I]Every[/I] country has done bad things. The US isn't an exception. I still believe that killing people in certain situations is justifiable unlike Alde.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871158]What, correctly?
Logic is essentially the art of correctness.[/QUOTE]
Guys, watch the fuck out. JohnnyMo1 just realized that his word is law.
:sigh: good luck, OP. I'm tired of keeping up with this and trying to debate, everyone's so high on their respective soap boxes it's pointless to try and argue.
Damnit, no one has any staying power.
I will not let this die. Unless I get tired.
[quote]I still believe that killing people in certain situations is justifiable unlike Alde. [/quote]
What is your justification, exactly? "They are the bad guys?"
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871193]Guys, watch the fuck out. JohnnyMo1 just realized that his word is law.[/QUOTE]
Erm, no. Logic is law. By its own nature.
If "all p are q" is true, "some p are not q" is false. By definition of all terms involved. If you try to argue against this fact, you are incorrect. The end.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871216]Erm, no. [b]Logic is law. By its own nature.[/b]
If "all p are q" is true, "some p are not q" is false. By definition of all terms involved. If you try to argue against this fact, you are incorrect. The end.[/QUOTE]
Emotion is law. By it's own nature. Your are incorrect. The end.
See what I did there?
These threads always turn into American history debates.
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871233]Emotion is law. By it's own nature.[/QUOTE]
You really are stupid aren't you?
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871233]Emotion is law. By it's own nature.
See what I did there?[/QUOTE]
Yes. You made an incorrect statement.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871176]No one is doing that[/QUOTE]
GODDAMNIT YOU MAKE ME REPLY MOAR AAGGGH
People are subjectively omitting whatever information would go against their argument. To be honest, if you apply the logic that killing people for any reason is bad, we're all pretty damn fucked, because the entire world's gotten its fair share in.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;16871109]You know, fuck it all. I'm out of this thread.
Forget politics, I hope you do well OP. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]
Do ho, running away?
[QUOTE=Alde;16871215]What is your justification, exactly? "They are the bad guys?"[/QUOTE]
Self defense. If someone attacks you then I feel it's justifiable to defend yourself with force, sometimes it can be deadly force. On conflicts/wars it depends. I don't support the invasion of Iraq.
[QUOTE=hijacker;16871145]If your that fucking smart, you should have the common fucking sense to know that killing people in a time of fucking war is acceptable, get the fuck out you god damn tree hugger.[/QUOTE]
GREAT argument, call them a tree hugger.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;16871252]Do ho, running away?[/QUOTE]
Oh, running away, eh!? You yellow bastard! Come back and I'll bite your legs off!
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871247]Yes. You made an incorrect statement.[/QUOTE]
No, I made a correct one.
See what I'm doing?
[QUOTE=Alde;16871246]You really are stupid aren't you?[/QUOTE]
Nice job quoting one part of the post and ignoring the rest.
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;16871258]Self defense.[/QUOTE]
It's still wrong to kill someone. Prove me wrong.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;16871198]:sigh: good luck, OP. I'm tired of keeping up with this and trying to debate, everyone's so high on their respective soap boxes it's pointless to try and argue.[/QUOTE]
dude there are people here that literally think America is righteous and historically we have fought on "the good side"
They only think this because they are American. If any of you really studied history you would see that historically we have been an imperialist nation.
Why do you think Guam, Puerto Rico, Guantanamo Bay, and various other islands are American territories? Why do you think Hawaii is a state? Why do you think South America has been such a mess?
[QUOTE=Vasili;16871245]These threads always turn into American history debates.[/QUOTE]
It's kind of funny, in some respects it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Arguments about war turn into violent heated debates, and the people who are against war can be just as violent as those who are for war.
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;16871258]Self defense. If someone attacks you then I feel it's justifiable to defend yourself with force, sometimes it can be deadly force. On conflicts/wars it depends. I don't support the invasion of Iraq.[/QUOTE]
Once again, [b]THIS[/b]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871271]Oh, running away, eh!? You yellow bastard! Come back and I'll bite your legs off![/QUOTE]
Meh, you get a funny.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;16871283]It's kind of funny, in some respects it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Arguments about war turn into violent heated debates, and the people who are against war can be just as violent as those who are for war.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean violent? Do you think those who vigorously are anti-war go around kicking puppies?
[QUOTE=Alde;16871277]It's still wrong to kill someone. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]
Prove to me why its wrong.
[QUOTE=Alde;16871277]It's still wrong to kill someone. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's still right to kill someone. Prove me wrong.
[b][i]CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT I DID THAR!?!?![/b][/i]
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871272]No, I made a correct one.
See what I'm doing?[/QUOTE]
Being wrong.
If "all p are q" is true, "some p are not q" is also true, because I feel like it is.
This statement is false. If you argue that it is true, you are wrong. There is no argument against this that is correct. Now can you stupid filling the earth with more stupid and maybe go dump some of it in your fantasy land apart from reality where nothing is impossible if you pretend it's real?
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16871312]What do you mean violent? Do you think those who vigorously are anti-war go around kicking puppies?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871320]
[b][i]CAN YOU NOT SEE WHAT I DID THAR!?!?![/b][/i][/QUOTE]
Yeah, you made a childish post and made yourself look like even more of an idiot.
[QUOTE=Wangman;16871332]Yes.[/QUOTE]
not asking you
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16871324]Being wrong.
If "all p are q" is true, "some p are not q" is also true, because I feel like it is.
This statement is false. If you argue that it is true, you are wrong. There is no argument against this that is correct. Now can you stupid filling the earth with more stupid and maybe go dump some of it in your fantasy land apart from reality where nothing is impossible if you pretend it's real?[/QUOTE]
I guess you really can't see what I did thar.
I'm pointing out how your attempt at rationalizing logic is, in itself, illogical.
"Logic is right because it's right! DURRRRR."
[QUOTE=Alde;16871277]It's still wrong to kill someone. Prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]
"Prove me wrong" has to be one of the worst arguments I have ever heard.
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;16871363]"Prove me wrong" has to be one of the worst arguments I have ever heard.[/QUOTE]
Says lolturtle as he can't prove him wrong.
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