• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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My mother used to own a Kel-Tec P-32 for use in her purse and whatnot, was a pretty cool looking weapon, too. Although, I think my father said it didn't shoot as well because the rounds wouldn't cycle sometimes, I am not really sure about what he said though.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;35629242]That right there tells me you have absolutely no idea as to the actual characteristics of the weapons we're talking about. That's like a COD kid saying the ACR is better than an H&K 416 because it's more accurate.[/QUOTE] Wow go fuck yourself bro. I definitely know a fuck ton more about firearms then some stupid COD kid. Who the fuck are you to degrade me like that? Tosser. Seriously your argument is flawed as fuck anyway. Just because I say a common phrase such as "I'm betting" does NOT immediately invalidate my argument and make me a retard. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35629252]it's not plastic btw, it's zytel stiffened with fiberglass. it's actually really similar to the stuff used in glock frames [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] it's not plastic[/QUOTE] Zytel - Thermo[b]plastic[/b] Polyamide usually strengthened by Fibreglass. Fibreglass - aka glass-reinforced plastic, a polymer made of [i]plastic[/i] reinforced by spun strands of glass. It's fancy plastic. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Raijin;35629304]I'm pretty sure any known and respected company wouldn't make guns out of simple plastic.[/QUOTE] No. You're right. It isn't simple plastic. But I, nor Prussel, said it was. It's a complex polymer yes. But it is still plastic. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Gubbinz96;35629515]I know this is a bit of a dick thing of me to point out, but plastic doesn't rust (but it does get veeery brittle if in the cold for long periods of time) v:v:v Forgive me, but I am under the impression that you think the ENTIRE GUN (barrel and everything) is made out of plastic. [sp]It isn't, because that would be stupid.[/sp][/QUOTE] 1) I know plastic doesn't rust or decay either but it doesn't have the style or class as wood. Wood has the decency to be hundreds of years old and knows the importance of being crafted into a deadly weapon. Plastic is some upstart kid that thinks "Aw yeah killin' turrists" 2) No. I know perfectly well that the only plastic bits are the non-essentials such as the stock, handguard, foregrip, casing, etc. I know the important bits are metal. That doesn't really invalidate my opinion. I think, personally, it is ugly as sin, is not as reliable as wood, and is more brittle than wood. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
Oooh, ooh, one more plastic gun! [IMG]http://www.ssweaponsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ACR.jpg[/IMG]
Ugly IMO If it isn't blatantly obvious by now I'll make it more so. I don't know why, but I have an irrational dislike of polymer/plastic stocks. I seriously don't know why please don't ask why. I prefer wooden stocked weapons. Though I don't mind polymer stocks on certain firearms. Such as the L85A1 or the Steyr Aug. I love Bullpup rifles
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629677]Though I don't mind polymer stocks on certain firearms. Such as the L85A1 or the Steyr Aug. I love Bullpup rifles[/QUOTE] Fixed the gun for you. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/QyOVZ.jpg[/IMG]
I do not like that colour. It looks like what I threw up the other night after Pizza Hut gave me food poisoning.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629677]Ugly IMO If it isn't blatantly obvious by now I'll make it more so. I don't know why, but I have an irrational dislike of polymer/plastic stocks. I seriously don't know why please don't ask why. I prefer wooden stocked weapons.[/QUOTE]Because you're like one of those people who go out of their way to get ancient, obsolete things because of some superstition. You're just the gun owner variant.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629677]Ugly IMO If it isn't blatantly obvious by now I'll make it more so. I don't know why, but I have an irrational dislike of polymer/plastic stocks. I seriously don't know why please don't ask why. I prefer wooden stocked weapons. Though I don't mind polymer stocks on certain firearms. Such as the L85A1 or the Steyr Aug. I love Bullpup rifles[/QUOTE] Tis a different folks, different strokes kinda deal. Y'just gotta keep it classy man. Thing to know, when someone goes out all reactionary BAAAH HUMBUGGERY YOU ARE ALL INFERIOR PLASTIC WHORES attitude they're going to get kinda mocked.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629573]Wow go fuck yourself bro. I definitely know a fuck ton more about firearms then some stupid COD kid. Who the fuck are you to degrade me like that? Tosser. Seriously your argument is flawed as fuck anyway. Just because I say a common phrase such as "I'm betting" does NOT immediately invalidate my argument and make me a retard. [/QUOTE] Yes that's brilliant start insulting a Marine because he disagrees with you.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;35629771]Because you're like one of those people who go out of their way to get ancient, obsolete things because of some superstition. You're just the gun owner variant.[/QUOTE] No I go out of my way (which is not far really) to get reliable firearms. If my gun was made in 19 fucking 41 and it fires like it's brand new it's a reliable damn firearm. [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=jgerm529;35629819]Yes that's brilliant start insulting a Marine because he disagrees with you.[/QUOTE] I don't care who or what he is. And I'm not insulting him because he disagrees with me I'm insulting him because he's an insulting asshole about it.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629753]I do not like that colour. It looks like what I threw up the other night after Pizza Hut gave me food poisoning.[/QUOTE] food poisoning and indigestion are different things man [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] if you had food poisoning you'd still be curled up in bed with a bucket and heading to the bathroom every 10 minutes [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] if you had food poisoning you'd still be curled up in bed with a bucket and heading to the bathroom every 10 minutes
This looks like my stop.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35629855]food poisoning and indigestion are different things man [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] if you had food poisoning you'd still be curled up in bed with a bucket and heading to the bathroom every 10 minutes [editline]18th April 2012[/editline] if you had food poisoning you'd still be curled up in bed with a bucket and heading to the bathroom every 10 minutes[/QUOTE] by "The other night" I mean like a week or two ago. I have a very fucked up view of time. And I know what food poisoning is I think I threw up uncontrollably into several things at least 7 times in a 24 hour period.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35629573]Wow go fuck yourself bro. I definitely know a fuck ton more about firearms then some stupid COD kid. Who the fuck are you to degrade me like that? Tosser. Seriously your argument is flawed as fuck anyway. Just because I say a common phrase such as "I'm betting" does NOT immediately invalidate my argument and make me a retard. [/QUOTE] Well for one the context of the phrase "I'm betting" in the sentence makes the reader assume that since you didn't write "I know" or didn't write "I'm betting" at all that you have no experience with the weapon. So with that it leaves to the assumption that all of the information you have collected from the weapon comes from outside sources, not from personal experience. Secondly you go on bashing how its made of plastic when a majority of todays firearms ARE made form the exact same plastic in kel-tecs, namely weapons like the M16 family, new production AK's, glocks, USP's, XD's, hell they even make plastic framed 1911's; thus your argument on the plastics being inferior is coming from some 3rd party. Lastly, your rebuttal to my statement was this: "Wow go fuck yourself bro. I definitely know a fuck ton more about firearms then some stupid COD kid. Who the fuck are you to degrade me like that? Tosser." Clearly your vocabulary is that of a child who plays COD, as well as your temperament, as well as your knowledge. Thus my comparison was sound. That and I don't know to many kids from Florida (so says your profile) that call anyone a tosser, unless say he was trying to fit in on a British forum.
Hell, I crack jokes about the P99 being made of tupperware, but I still want it, there was a point in time (before I realized all the ones up here cost $1200) that I said it would be my first gun. Plastic can look good, but it depends on the gun, and being made of a plastic doesn't immediately make the gun unreliable, hell, they're often more accurate.
1) I didn't write "I know" so I wouldn't sound like an arrogant douche and I wrote "I'm betting" because I happen to like the phrase. You know what they say about assumptions bro. 2) And notice how I've said I do not like polymer weapons. The Kel-Tec just has the added bonus of being, in my opinion, ugly as sin. It is my opinion that wood > plastic. MY opinion. Not some 3rd party. 3) Clearly, my vocabulary is that of someone who is mad because someone just likened him to possibly one of the worst types of human being in the world. Your comparison was not sound it was unjust and I reacted accordingly (read: angrily). 4) Facepunch is more of an American forum if anything. IIRC the majority of posters are American. I just happen to prefer British slang over American slang. American slang is crude and ugly.
[QUOTE=Ridge;35629476]You're thinking of the XM8. The G36 is very popular in European militaries and police agencies, and is popular enough for Mexico to start making their own. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/FX-05_Shdowcrwler.jpg/800px-FX-05_Shdowcrwler.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] The Mexican FX-05 is internally different from the G36. It only outwardly resembles one.
This is Firearms VI, not Jerry Springer. Give it a rest.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35630213]The Mexican FX-05 is internally different from the G36. It only outwardly resembles one.[/QUOTE] Hence why Mexico won that lawsuit.
Okay. So. Gun talk. Hypothetically, in [i]extreme[/i] 'shit has hit the fan' scenario style. How hard is it to melt down lead and make bullets for cartridges? Let's say 7.62. I know you'd need a die cast, are those hard to find/expensive? (I'm not going to do this, ever, but I'm curious) Or is it even not possible? Would the bullet be too light?
Usually, because it's often fuckloads easier to buy bulk ammo/purchase individual components, people tend not to cast bullets for most modern guns themselves, that, and pure lead bullets with no jacket don't go too well with modern guns. I've heard of people melting down lead that was recycled from bullets pulled out of burms at ranges, but they're using that to reload for antique guns, stuff from the black powder era that didn't have a jacket and was designed to deal with pure lead bullets. In theory it's possible to mould a 7.62 of some sort, but lead fouling in the barrel and bullet weight would be things to be considered to decide if it would be worth it, rather than just stocking up on ammo.
Right. I figured it would be a waste of time. I plan on stocking up on ammo JIC but I wanted to know if it was a possibility. I know it's probably not at all, but is it possible to jacket a bullet yourself? How exactly do they do it? Do they mould hot metal to the bullet or do they dip it in molten metal?
Yes it's possible to jacket the bullet yourself, no it's not easy (nor do I know the process) and it's likely to be a complete waste of time and money unless, actually fuck it, even if you're some sort of ridiculous match shooter who is so fucking anal that they've decided no factory bullets will be sufficient for their accuracy needs, and so they decide to fine-tune it themselves, likely wasting thousands of dollars in the process because they're an anal fuckwit and they're likely to fuck it up colossally a shitload before finally getting it right.
:v: So basically in an EOTW scenario stock up or you're completely and utterly fucked. Good thing I know how to shoot a bow.
You don't have to jacket it. Plenty of people reload for rifles using their own, hand-cast bullets.
Not firearms related, but if anyone knows a good bit about Benchmade knives PM me i found an ATS-34 and i wanna know if it's worth keeping/selling/whatever
The primary purpose of jacketing a bullet is to keep the bore clean. Bare lead bullets can gunk up a barrel quickly. [IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/GSG5Host1/ammo/thunderbolt_barrel.jpg[/IMG]
Prusllesken was called Non-functioning nugget fucker, Van Kaeo is now Wood stock hardon.
What can I say? I've got wood for wood. [editline]19th April 2012[/editline] Also fuck what is it with you people and spelling my name wrong? [i]Everyone[/i] spells it Van Kaeo. It's like everyone is dyslexic. That's an e. V[b]e[/b]n Kaeo. I am not a van. I am a creepy Cheshire cat with a woody for wood on guns. [editline]19th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;35630832]The primary purpose of jacketing a bullet is to keep the bore clean. Bare lead bullets can gunk up a barrel quickly. [IMG]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/GSG5Host1/ammo/thunderbolt_barrel.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] That poor, poor gun. Is that [i]molten[/i] (and of course hence forth dried) lead? There's no saving that barrel, is there? How the fuck could it even get that bad? Wouldn't the rough edges and lack of rifling start to fuck the bullet up on the way out and potentially rupture the barrel?
Your names not Ven Kaeo it's Wood stock hardon.
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