• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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Great fun. [IMG]http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab255/Yournameisinvalid21/102_0042.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab255/Yournameisinvalid21/102_0041.jpg[/IMG] I ordered some new grips, I'll throw up a picture on here once I get them. :zoid:
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I have a quick question. I have a Remington 870 and I wanted to get a magazine extension for it, but I have a vent ribbed barrel. Not sure if this would get in the way of the magazine clamp. Is there any 870 magazine extension out there that would work with a vent ribbed barrel?
[QUOTE=stabbytheghost;36401268]I have a quick question. I have a Remington 870 and I wanted to get a magazine extension for it, but I have a vent ribbed barrel. Not sure if this would get in the way of the magazine clamp. Is there any 870 magazine extension out there that would work with a vent ribbed barrel?[/QUOTE] Shouldn't be a problem. Most mag clamps stop short of where the rib will be. [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/89Sunbird/870_0003.jpg[/IMG]
Good deal (on ammo) alert: [url]http://www.luckygunner.com/7-62x39-123-gr-fmj-brown-bear-spam-can-700-rounds[/url]
[QUOTE=faze;36405704]Good deal (on ammo) alert: [url]http://www.luckygunner.com/7-62x39-123-gr-fmj-brown-bear-spam-can-700-rounds[/url][/QUOTE] Oh score, and it isn't even surplus!
[QUOTE=ewitwins;36406021]Oh score, and it isn't even surplus![/QUOTE] Fucking ay. I'm buying one now.
I spent all my money this week man. I'm planning on buying myself an SKS for my 18th birthday, that'd be a perfect addition. [editline]19th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;36397252]Did you cock the hammer before shots?[/QUOTE] No because I was being stupid and paranoid that I'd slip it and shoot myself in the foot somehow. I'll do that next time though, for sure. I hated the pull so much that that would be the only way I'd try it again. I'd want a single-action revolver if anything as a result.
When firing a double action revolver, I normally cock the hammer by hand anyway. It's more fun, plus it makes the pull easier. Sometimes I even forget that the revolver I'm using is in fact double action.
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looks like someone has a CCW looking to get a first gun. how cheap is ammo for a moist nugget? figured it'd be fun to have a bit of history and something cheap to put some rounds through at the range
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36412637]looks like someone has a CCW looking to get a first gun. how cheap is ammo for a moist nugget? figured it'd be fun to have a bit of history and something cheap to put some rounds through at the range[/QUOTE] Save for something better. Get a Mossberg 100ATR if you want long range power.
He said he wanted a surplus/historical gun. He isn't doing serious hunting and besides, good nuggets are very accurate.
[QUOTE=faze;36412648]Save for something better. Get a Mossberg 100ATR if you want long range power.[/QUOTE] I don't really care about long range power. Probably want something relatively cheap upfront and with ammo costs, accurate and yet still not completely shitty. I'd probably teach my sister gun safety with it, but for a newbie I'm not sure the 7.62x54mmR the Nagant fires is, y'know, soft on the shoulder
If you want noob gun, get a .22. Nuggets apparently teach bad shooting habits, and yes they are rough on the shoulder if not shouldered properly.
All the people I've heard talking about nuggets say that, considering the fairly big caliber, the recoil is a breeze.
Then again wimpy americans.
well i started off my firearm shooting hobby with a 12 gauge double barrel so I'm no stranger to recoil especially when it malfunctions and shoots both barrels at once at least 1/4 times
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36412711]I don't really care about long range power. Probably want something relatively cheap upfront and with ammo costs, accurate and yet still not completely shitty. I'd probably teach my sister gun safety with it, but for a newbie I'm not sure the 7.62x54mmR the Nagant fires is, y'know, soft on the shoulder[/QUOTE] It's not soft for a new shooter. Get a 22. You'll be fine.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36412711]I don't really care about long range power. Probably want something relatively cheap upfront and with ammo costs, accurate and yet still not completely shitty. I'd probably teach my sister gun safety with it, but for a newbie I'm not sure the 7.62x54mmR the Nagant fires is, y'know, soft on the shoulder[/QUOTE] Mosin Nagants are dirt cheap and the ammo for them is a dime a dozen. [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant[/url] [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-7-62-x-54r-148-gr-fmjbt-ball-berdan-primed[/url] It's a nice rifle to start off with, it's easy to disassemble and reassemble. Just make sure you clean all the cosmoline off when you get yours and have gun oil on hand to oil all the parts. As for teaching your sister gun safety, depending on hold old she is, it may not be the right rifle. The mosin nagant safety takes a 2x4 to engage. The kick isn't bad unless you don't have the rifle properly shouldered. Good luck and have fun with a piece of history. [b]EDIT:[/B] Also, this is probably a no-brainer, but make sure you get hearing protection. The Mosin nagant is the loudest rifle in existence.
[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;36412765]If you want noob gun, get a .22. Nuggets apparently teach bad shooting habits, and yes they are rough on the shoulder if not shouldered properly.[/QUOTE] Time and time again people say to start off with a .22lr. It's an incredibly stupid argument. If you are an adult, a .22lr isn't going to teach you a thing about how to properly handle the recoil of a rifle. My advice is to start off with the Nagant unless you're looking to educate yourself on firearm safety and recoil management at a slower pace. If you're looking for something to learn on, a 9mm Carbine like the Kel-Tec Sub-2000 is a good weapon, but it's not a rifle caliber. I'd advise getting a .223/5.56x45mm rifle, preferably an AR-15. [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;36412968]Mosin Nagants are dirt cheap and the ammo for them is a dime a dozen. [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant[/url] [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-7-62-x-54r-148-gr-fmjbt-ball-berdan-primed[/url] It's a nice rifle to start off with, it's easy to disassemble and reassemble. Just make sure you clean all the cosmoline off when you get yours and have gun oil on hand to oil all the parts. As for teaching your sister gun safety, depending on hold old she is, it may not be the right rifle. The mosin nagant safety takes a 2x4 to engage. The kick isn't bad unless you don't have the rifle properly shouldered. Good luck and have fun with a piece of history.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. Just do your research and you'll be good. [b]EDIT:[/b]I think that's the cheapest Mosin ammo I've seen. I think I'll buy some.
Go with a .22lr if you want an inexpensive gun with inexpensive ammo... Ruger 10/22, Marlin 795, Mossberg 702, Remington 597. Those are the semi autos. Or you can find a 22 bolt gun, I learned to shoot on a .22lr single shot bolt gun and I believe it is one of the best ways to learn to shoot as you only get the one shot. But it's up to you, go with what ever fits the price and looks and feels good to you.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;36412968]Mosin Nagants are dirt cheap and the ammo for them is a dime a dozen. [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant[/url] [url]http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-7-62-x-54r-148-gr-fmjbt-ball-berdan-primed[/url] It's a nice rifle to start off with, it's easy to disassemble and reassemble. Just make sure you clean all the cosmoline off when you get yours and have gun oil on hand to oil all the parts. As for teaching your sister gun safety, depending on hold old she is, it may not be the right rifle. The mosin nagant safety takes a 2x4 to engage. The kick isn't bad unless you don't have the rifle properly shouldered. Good luck and have fun with a piece of history. [b]EDIT:[/B] Also, this is probably a no-brainer, but make sure you get hearing protection. The Mosin nagant is the loudest rifle in existence.[/QUOTE] You can get a box of 22lr for way cheaper than Mosin ammo.
[QUOTE=faze;36412993]You can get a box of 22lr for way cheaper than Mosin ammo.[/QUOTE] .22lr doesn't teach an adult anything about recoil though. I plan on buying a .22lr for my 8 year old nephew when he turns 10, I wouldn't buy a 18+ a .22lr. They're better off with a rifle caliber.
[QUOTE=stupidass;36412971]Time and time again people say to start off with a .22lr. It's an incredibly stupid argument. If you are an adult, a .22lr isn't going to teach you a thing about how to properly handle the recoil of a rifle.[/QUOTE] I disagree. A .22lr is a great inexpensive way to learn the correct way to shoot w/out worrying about recoil. It lets the shooter focus on breathing, getting a good sight picture and adjusting for accuracy. It introduces a new shooter to the world of guns with out the recoil that may throw off someone new. I have met many people who don't want or like to shoot because they first shot something other than a .22 and the recoil hurt them. I am of the belief that everyone should at least shoot a .22lr first if not own a .22lr first....
[QUOTE=faze;36412993]You can get a box of 22lr for way cheaper than Mosin ammo.[/QUOTE] What does amount of ammo have to do with anything? If you're going to learn how to shoot, it's best you learn how to conserve ammo and hit your target rather than buying a gun where you feel inclined to dick around and miss your target. [QUOTE=Skullivan21;36413018]I disagree. A .22lr is a great inexpensive way to learn the correct way to shoot w/out worrying about recoil. It lets the shooter focus on breathing, getting a good sight picture and adjusting for accuracy. [b]It introduces a new shooter to the world of guns with out the recoil[/b] that may throw off someone new. I have met many people who don't want or like to shoot because they first shot something other than a .22 and the recoil hurt them. I am of the belief that everyone should at least shoot a .22lr first if not own a .22lr first....[/QUOTE] Recoil is one of the primary dealings in 'the world of guns'. Why would you want to teach it without recoil management?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;36413012].22lr doesn't teach an adult anything about recoil though. I plan on buying a .22lr for my 8 year old nephew when he turns 10, I wouldn't buy a 18+ a .22lr. They're better off with a rifle caliber.[/QUOTE] A 22 is a great way to learn proper form.
[QUOTE=faze;36413077]A 22 is a great way to learn proper form.[/QUOTE] If you want to learn proper form, you'd probably be able to do so just by holding your rifle. The recoil of a .22lr is not going to effect your form in any way shape or form unless you weight 60 pounds.
[QUOTE=faze;36413077]A 22 is a great way to learn proper form.[/QUOTE] I would show a person how to deal with recoil right off the bat so they know how to compensate for it.
[QUOTE=stupidass;36413037]Recoil is one of the primary dealings in 'the world of guns'. Why would you want to teach it without recoil management?[/QUOTE] So that they learn to focus on things other than the recoil. No matter who you are when you first shoot a gun you are most worried about the recoil so it is what you focus on and it stops you from learning the more important things of shooting, i.e. breathing, and sighting. A mosin is a great gun to own... but it isn't the gun I would start someone off with. Same thing with a handgun, I would rather teach the techniques of pistol shooting with a .22lr than a .45 or 10mm. Learning with a .22lr just eliminates the issue of recoil and saves it for when the shooter is more comfortable with the fundamentals of aiming and loading.
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