So I went to a conceal carry class yesterday. It was held at a range a block and a half from the theater.
We had about 6 hours of classroom time, and then we went out to the range for the practical.
First we had a silhouette target to place at any range we wanted and 40 rounds to fire at it. We fired both two handed, strong hand only and weak hand only. I've never shot a pistol one handed, so that was interesting. I placed my target at 15 feet, since that was the range our scored target would be at.
I fired the first shot out of every mag in double action, then the rest in single action, to simulate how I'd actually carry the gun.
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One of the two shots on the number 9 was the double action with both hands. The one down below the 7 was double action with just the strong hand. The 6 stitched down the left side of the chest were a mix of strong and weak hand headshot attempts.
This is the final scored target. We had 10 shots. 5 with both hands, 3 strong hand and 2 weak hand. Had to get 7 out of 10 in the square. I'm not sure of the breakup of the shots on this target, as I shot them all through one mag. I'm fairly sure the bottom hit was the double action shot.
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I got 9 out of 10 on target. Was pretty happy with that. A few friends attended the class, also. One is former marine, got all 9 within the circles, and a flyer to the bottom left area of the square. Brought a lady friend as well, who used a rented Glock 19, and got all 10 of hers within the circle. We're all proud of her. :)
So now we all get to throw a big pile of cash at the county sheriff's office and wait 3 months for our permits.
[QUOTE=download;36988788]and can make a perfect brain shot every time.[/QUOTE]
Oh for pete's sake, bodyshots work too.
Internal organs still work, otherwise blood wouldn't flow, muscles wouldn't get nourishment and they'd all go into rigor mortis and just
freeze there.
Crippling the spine/limbs also works. A static zombie poses no threat.
Three months for your permit Ridge? Ouch...
I walked in to my Sheriff's office and spoke with the officer on duty for about five minutes... filled out a form, forked over ten dollars to her, and walked out with a temporary permit until the permanent arrived in the mail from the state :v:
[QUOTE=massn7;36990519]Three months for your permit Ridge? Ouch...
I walked in to my Sheriff's office and spoke with the officer on duty for about five minutes... filled out a form, forked over ten dollars to her, and walked out with a temporary permit until the permanent arrived in the mail from the state :v:[/QUOTE]
Yeah state law is they have to give me the permit within 90 days of application. And my county likes to take as long as possible to do it, for some reason. The sheriff also won't sign off on NFA, even though it's legal.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;36990149]Oh for pete's sake, bodyshots work too.
Internal organs still work, otherwise blood wouldn't flow, muscles wouldn't get nourishment and they'd all go into rigor mortis and just
freeze there.
Crippling the spine/limbs also works. A static zombie poses no threat.[/QUOTE]
That's why I take 7.62x39 out of an sbr with slow rifling. it's gonna start tumbling quick and do some serious damage to whatever part it hits. a shot into the chest will probably leave an exit wound the size of a large grapefruit
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;36966909]FUCK!
Winnebago county doesn't allow rifles.[/QUOTE]
Wait, like none period? I thought they just didn't allow them for deer hunting.
[QUOTE=mmmono;36992428]Wait, like none period? I thought they just didn't allow them for deer hunting.[/QUOTE]
Wait, what the fuck? No rifles for deer hunting?
[QUOTE=ewitwins;36986335]I would literally just have a double-bagged shopping bag or one of those workout bags full of .22LR or 12g during the zombie apocalypse and just grab from them whenever I need ammunition. The key to staying alive is to never provoke a large group of them and to stay out of sight and to stay quiet, right?
.22LR is also easier to silence because of the grain-count, and if you're just going around popping quiet headshots, you'll be good
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You're right about .22LR making sense when you silence it. With other rounds, they're generally just too powerful to silence. But with .22LR, you can get it to point where it's barely louder than tapping on a table.
However, me thinks silencing a firearm has less to do about the bullets grain weight. It has more to do with the fact that .22LR is a sub-sonic round and also has very little gas to suppress.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;36990149]Oh for pete's sake, bodyshots work too.
Internal organs still work, otherwise blood wouldn't flow, muscles wouldn't get nourishment and they'd all go into rigor mortis and just
freeze there.
Crippling the spine/limbs also works. A static zombie poses no threat.[/QUOTE]
I think it's best to simply define zombies as 'an infectious biohazard that makes humans crazy cannibalistic.' That opens lots of room for variation. In the case of George A. Romero zombies, you would want .22LR. In the case of Left 4 Dead zombies, you would want something like 12 guage or .308.
[QUOTE=massn7;36990519]Three months for your permit Ridge? Ouch...[/QUOTE]
Try living in Italy. TECHNICALLY you should get it between 60 and 90 days. Almost always it takes longer.
When we had a family member working at the police station, we got everything when it to official papers, done the same day we turned it in (gun licences, passports, etc) :v:
[QUOTE=ewitwins;36992478]Wait, what the fuck? No rifles for deer hunting?[/QUOTE]
For several years our county only allowed shotguns for deer hunting.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;36992889]Try living in Italy. TECHNICALLY you should get it between 60 and 90 days. Almost always it takes longer.[/QUOTE]
You need a leader that can make the paper pushers run on time.
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Went shooting today. This picture is of my groupings for my Nugget. Target is about 3 inches across and I was about 50-75, maybe even 100, meters back. My grandpa also brought his compact XD-9 and sub-compact XD-40. Today was pretty fun.
Took my SKS out the other day, seems the clear coat I used wasn't thick enough. Time for a new paint job, I'd like some ideas!
Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now the proud owners of an all correct M1 Garand.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;36997335]Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now the proud owners of an all correct M1 Garand.[/QUOTE]
Sweet. I wish I had one. Got some En Bloc clips though!
[QUOTE=download;36997457]Sweet. I wish I had one. Got some En Bloc clips though![/QUOTE]
Yeah. My parents ordered 20 of those things, just because my mom might go through a few of them. She likes .30-06.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;36992478]Wait, what the fuck? No rifles for deer hunting?[/QUOTE]
Nope, and slug shotgun lasts only for a week and a half iirc.
mosin is mine, ak is my brother's
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[QUOTE=MisDiagnosed;36994325]For several years our county only allowed shotguns for deer hunting.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sometimes it's because people hunt near residential areas, and deer slugs don't have the same range as a rifle, so fewer houses are going to have boolet hole in them. Sometimes it's also for population control I think. In my county though I don't believe it was ever like that, we've got too many deer.
[QUOTE=SomeENG;36997299]Took my SKS out the other day, seems the clear coat I used wasn't thick enough. Time for a new paint job, I'd like some ideas![/QUOTE]
Bright pink.
Window shopping AK74s...looks like they start at about $700.
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Went shooting today. This picture is of my groupings for my Nugget. Target is about 3 inches across and I was about 50-75, maybe even 100, meters back. My grandpa also brought his compact XD-9 and sub-compact XD-40. Today was pretty fun.[/QUOTE]
Why are you using inches and meters in the same fucking tale?
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;36997335]Ladies and Gentlemen, we are now the proud owners of an all correct M1 Garand.[/QUOTE]
What year and make? My family has one from 1953 by International Harvester, all matching parts.
I can't find an online version, but the former Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, the guy who was John Howards right hand man, John Howard being the Prime Minister of Australia who banned "Assault" rifles, wrote an opinion piece in my state newspaper about the UN Small Arms Treaty (Basicly its about making it a war crime to sell weapons that end up being used in a war crime). In the piece he mentioned how he stands by the 1996 gun byback that removed "...automatic and semi-automatic weapons...", and that it was a good thing. So, I decided to write a letter to the editor addressing this parts of the article (the rest of it was about the Small Arms treaty which I agree with, so I conceded that). I decided not to address his incorrect terminology because of my limited word length ("assault" rifle and such), so instead went to my own governments website and looked the statistics. Before the buyback, violent crime was falling, after, it was still falling. Following the buyback, armed robbery went up, but has since fallen to its pre-buyback levels. So I adressed that, then I mentioned how all it succeeded in was destroying 700,000 historical firearms and heirlooms.
Anyway, read it for yourself:
[quote=Me]I would like to address Alexander Downers' opinion piece published on Monday, the 30th of July.
Mr Downer says he stands by the Liberal Parties decision in regard to the 1996 Gun buyback following the Port Arthur Massacre. I would like to point out how much of a failure it was. According to the Australians Institute of Criminology statistics, violent crime was falling before the gun buyback and kept falling after the gun buyback, and that assault was up following the buyback, though it has since returned to its pre-buyback levels. The only thing it managed to accomplish was a waste of over 600 million dollars of taxpayers money (that's 1996 dollars, it would now be considerably more), and the destruction of 700,000 firearms, may of them heirlooms, simple farmers rifles and historical firearms.
It would seem that people always look to the US as an example of a gun ownership vs gun crime, yet if you look at Swizerland, a country with the 4th highest gun ownership rate in the world, at 44 guns per hundred people (for comparison, the US has 80 per hundred people, New Zealand has 22, and Australia has 15), yet it has one of the lowest violent crime rates in Europe, furthermore, a majority of these firearms are assault rifles. Just to put the nails in the coffin; illegal firearms are everywhere. With a customs service that only x-rays 2% of containers coming into the country, it's not surprising. Simply making them illegal does not stop them when many illegal sources are available. I will concede though; the UN Small Arms Treaty is a good thing. It, assuming it had passed, would have saved many lives, and would have restricted the ability of regimes like Assads' to wage war on their own people. [/quote]
Note: the Australian Liberal Party is actually Australia's conservative party
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If I had more words I would've mentioned that Martin Bryant, the perpetrator of the Port Arthur Massacre, didn't have a firearms licence (he also didn't also didn't have a drivers licence, but he drove everywhere illegally anyway) and he acquired his firearms illegally. I would have mentioned that the American War on Drugs and appalling prison rate that causes the terrible gun crime rate.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;36993606]When we had a family member working at the police station, we got everything when it to official papers, done the same day we turned it in (gun licences, passports, etc) :v:[/QUOTE]
It works the same here, we have a guard who we know and the weapons we buy from a shop we get licensed with minimum fuss and good time. I consider myself lucky because they hand out licenses on a whim, and at whatever time suits them. It's disgraceful.
Australian gun laws are such bullshit, you need a license for a BB gun.
[QUOTE=Trooper0315;36998783]What year and make? My family has one from 1953 by International Harvester, all matching parts.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, it hasn't arrived on our doorstep yet. :v:
Edit:
[del]I believe it's a springfield.[/del]
Harrington & Richardson.
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Here's the bid: [url]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=298454827[/url]
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And here it is.
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[QUOTE=SEKCobra;36998630]Why are you using inches and meters in the same fucking tale?[/QUOTE]
Because. :v:
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I can estimate short distances best in inches and long distances in miles, but medium distances are always in meters.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;36998630]Why are you using inches and meters in the same fucking tale?[/QUOTE]
I can attest to doing this as well.
I don't know why but at least in this Canadian city whenever its small measurements we become American, but once its over that we go metric.
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