• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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Not his fault.
I don't even know why you'd bother... Why the fuck is trying to (and failing) at trolling us?
Two permabans and a ban, wow :v:
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37256760]he's pretty easy to spot, just look for anyone who leaves the word A out of all his posts[/QUOTE] And anyone who has an unnatural affection for everything Russian.
[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;37256827]And anyone who has an unnatural affection for everything Russian.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty erect for 7.62x25
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37256846]I'm pretty erect for 7.62x25[/QUOTE] I bet Umenat puts 7.62x54 in his pee pee.
did none of you react earlier?? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts..
[QUOTE=Honesty;37256985]did none of you react to that first post? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts.[/QUOTE] why didn't you call him out earlier then Jesus, Pruss, make me do all the work why don't you
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37256999]why didn't you call him out earlier then Jesus, Pruss, make me do all the work why don't you[/QUOTE] because i figured i'd get flamed
[QUOTE=Honesty;37257023]because i figured i'd get flamed[/QUOTE] I wouldn't have done that :v: So, who wants to place bets on when USSR pride boy shows up again?
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37257046]I wouldn't have done that :v: So, who wants to place bets on when USSR pride boy shows up again?[/QUOTE] i bet that he'll be back within 4 days
I was actually beginning to find that Umenat guy really hillarious, but maybe that's just my humor.
Some people just don't do things like that. There's not a lot you can do. Give him a stern talking to maybe. Maybe fire a couple rounds at the range with his gun, show him how bad it is, clean it and show him what an improvement it is? I know I'm an experiential learner like that.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37257155]Some people just don't do things like that. There's not a lot you can do. Give him a stern talking to maybe. Maybe fire a couple rounds at the range with his gun, show him how bad it is, clean it and show him what an improvement it is? I know I'm an experiential learner like that.[/QUOTE] If he does it for him then his friend will probably be all "Sweet, he'll clean my guns for me!" and expect him to do it again.
most of my guns hardly ever get cleaned. I never have any issues unless I'm firing shit ammo like remington .22lr or something. My mossberg 702 has had at least 4000 rounds through it since I last did more than run a bore snake through it
[QUOTE=Bazkip;37257209]If he does it for him then his friend will probably be all "Sweet, he'll clean my guns for me!" and expect him to do it again.[/QUOTE] Only if his friend is an ass. If he truly cares about guns he needs to be shown how to take care of them, plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;37257111]Anyways, back to gun talk. I just learned from my friend is the laziest piece of shit ever about keeping his guns in good condition. We've been out shooting three times this summer, once every month, and so far I have cleaned my Mosin after every range trip, my shotgun after the first trip (since I haven't fired it since then) and my .22 between the second and third trips because its accuracy was going to hell. However, my friend has yet to clean anything. His Mosin has had well over 500 corrosive, surplus rounds through it over two months and it's been left in his trunk the entire time. His .22s (a Winchester model 141 and a Marlin 60) have not been cleaned in years. I only noticed that the Marlin was in bad shape when it refused to extract about every 4th round and would get jammed trying to chamber the next round. His Mosin's bore used to look brand new and at this point it's very dull at best, and it's going to take him hours to get that Marlin to cycle properly again. I fucking hate people that won't take 30 minutes of their time to keep their guns in good shape. I've told him I'm more than willing to lend him my cleaning supplies so that he can keep his stuff in working order but he keeps putting it off. [editline]15th August 2012[/editline] I'd give it a week.[/QUOTE] I always clean guns after going out shooting... I enjoy cleaning them. v:v:v
The thing with this last rendition of Umenat was he was actually fairly well versed in Russian firearms law; pistols are becoming legal soon there, however only low-power ones (300 joules of muzzle energy, IIRC), so the TT-33 is still going to be banned. However, for some reason I still doubt that SVDs are legal for civilian purchase there in any capacity.
That Soviet Power guy had his facts wrong. A light-blue beret signifies the VDV, the Russian airborne division, not Marines.
[quote]Never tell your password to anyone. 16. august 2012 00:10 - Slaur: lol are you serious 00:10 - Ze Kat!: ? 00:10 - Slaur: blue berets suck btw 00:11 - Ze Kat!: dark green suck more 00:11 - Ze Kat!: they dont actually 00:12 - Slaur: telemarksbataljonen > everything else 00:13 - Slaur: i have a bet going that you'll be back on fp within 4 days 00:13 - Ze Kat!: nah 00:13 - Ze Kat!: i will not be catched next time 00:15 - Ze Kat!: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_forces[/url] 00:15 - Ze Kat!: ive always served there 00:16 - Ze Kat!: anyway 00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am just a shitty high sergeant[/B] 00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i was a low sergeant when served in army[/B] 00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i actually didnt give a shit[/B] 00:16 - Ze Kat!: but then got a higher rank 00:16 - Ze Kat!: now i work there 00:16 - Ze Kat!: almost 4000$ per month 00:17 - Ze Kat!: enough for me 00:17 - Ze Kat!: because i risk my shitty life 00:17 - Ze Kat!: and ass 00:17 - Ze Kat!: you may post that to shitty faecpanch 00:18 - Ze Kat!: i am working by contract anyway 00:18 - Slaur: lol what 00:18 - Ze Kat!: yes 00:18 - Slaur: so 00:18 - Slaur: your svd 00:18 - Ze Kat!: in order to work in airbone forces you must have a contract 00:18 - Slaur: what is its twist rate 00:18 - Ze Kat!: gay 00:19 - Ze Kat!: i didnt shoot it yet 00:19 - Ze Kat!: its new 00:19 - Slaur: can you take a photo of it? 00:19 - Ze Kat!: ive just passed a shittons of shit to register it 00:19 - Ze Kat!: later 00:19 - Slaur: what settings do the ironsights have? 00:19 - Ze Kat!: weird 00:19 - Ze Kat!: i am not sniper 00:19 - Ze Kat!: i use AK 00:20 - Ze Kat!: [B]so i am dumb at this things[/B] 00:20 - Ze Kat!: dont ask me anything regarding that 00:20 - Slaur: the rear ironsight 00:20 - Ze Kat!: all i can tell is that the optical crosshair is COMPLETELY different like in all sniper rifles 00:20 - Slaur: up to what range can you set it on 00:20 - Slaur: yes i know the PSO crosshair has a range finder and chevrons 00:20 - Ze Kat!: yes 00:21 - Ze Kat!: i am going to set it to the lovest range of 200m 00:21 - Ze Kat!: i dont need more for hunting 00:21 - Ze Kat!: i will use it for hunting anyway 00:21 - Slaur: as in you'll zero the sight at 200m? 00:21 - Slaur: i am pretty sure that they're meant to be zeroed at 100m though 00:21 - Slaur: because of how the chevrons work 00:21 - Ze Kat!: ive shot some other sniper rifles 00:21 - Ze Kat!: steyr 00:22 - Ze Kat!: and other shit 00:22 - Ze Kat!: they have a milldot 00:22 - Ze Kat!: i have a PSO 00:22 - Ze Kat!: SVD-S 00:22 - Ze Kat!: 1981 00:22 - Ze Kat!: old but looks like new 00:22 - Slaur: 5 rounder or 10? 00:22 - Ze Kat!: both 00:23 - Ze Kat!: i have 2 mags 00:23 - Ze Kat!: 5 and 10 00:23 - Ze Kat!: i use 10 00:23 - Ze Kat!: i am going to get a long mag for svd 00:23 - Ze Kat!: 20 round 00:23 - Ze Kat!: anyway 00:23 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am dumb at sniper shit[/B] 00:23 - Slaur: aren't those made for the automatic svds 00:23 - Ze Kat!: in my work i use AKM-101 00:24 - Ze Kat!: svd is not automatic 00:24 - Ze Kat!: its semi automatic only 00:24 - Slaur: the automatic svd used 20 round magazines 00:24 - Slaur: there is a full auto version 00:24 - Ze Kat!: there are NO automatic svd 00:24 - Slaur: uhm 00:24 - Ze Kat!: [B]HOW THE FUCK you can imagine an automatic sniper rifle?[/B] 00:24 - Slaur: SVU-A 00:24 - Ze Kat!: [B]its just dumb[/B] 00:24 - Ze Kat!: maybe there is 00:24 - Ze Kat!: but i have never seen 00:25 - Slaur: [url]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/sniper/sn19/svu-a_1.jpg[/url] 00:25 - Slaur: here 00:25 - Ze Kat!: itsa bullpup 00:25 - Ze Kat!: real shit 00:25 - Slaur: bullpup SVD with full auto selector 00:25 - Ze Kat!: i am glad we dont have those 00:25 - Ze Kat!: [B]i hate bullpup[/B] 00:25 - Slaur: bullpup works fine if done right 00:25 - Slaur: e.g. barrett M95 and M99 00:25 - Slaur: for target rifles it's fine 00:26 - Slaur: for military and hunting rifles it's most of the time a dumb idea 00:26 - Slaur: the l85 is an example; it's pure shit 00:26 - Ze Kat!: i repeat 00:26 - Ze Kat!: i serve in airbone forces 00:26 - Ze Kat!: I NEVER USED SNIPER RIFLE THERE 00:26 - Ze Kat!: i used AK 00:26 - Ze Kat!: [B]its [I]and[/I] ASSAULT rifle[/B] 00:26 - Ze Kat!: not sniper 00:26 - Slaur: what cal is your ak101 in huh? 00:26 - Ze Kat!: 5.45 00:26 - Slaur: cool you actually knew 00:27 - Ze Kat!: 5.45x39 00:27 - Slaur: you guys use any optics on them? 00:28 - Ze Kat!: only special forces use [B]optics at AK'S[/B] 00:28 - Ze Kat!: even if they use them 00:28 - Ze Kat!: its [B]dumb[/B] 00:28 - Ze Kat!: [B]uneffective[/B] 00:28 - Slaur: lol why would that be dumb 00:28 - Slaur: stock AK ironsights are horrid 00:28 - Ze Kat!: dude 00:28 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am shitty sergeant[/B] 00:28 - Ze Kat!: ive only used a AK 101 00:29 - Ze Kat!: and some pistols 00:29 - Ze Kat!: nothing more 00:29 - Slaur: i'm asking why optics on an AK is dumb 00:29 - Ze Kat!: have you shot ak74? 00:29 - Slaur: [U]i've shot an Arsenal SAR-M1 in 7,62x39[/U] 00:29 - Slaur: why 00:29 - Slaur: [U]it had AK74M furniture[/U] 00:29 - Ze Kat!: cool 00:29 - Ze Kat!: how is the recoil> 00:29 - Ze Kat!: ? 00:30 - Slaur: i'd put it somewhere between .223 remington and .308 winchester 00:30 - Slaur: it's not snappy but you still feel it 00:30 - Ze Kat!: also 00:30 - Ze Kat!: before calling us dumb 00:30 - Ze Kat!: that light blue berets are shit 00:30 - Ze Kat!: try to pass our exam 00:30 - Ze Kat!: i will laugh at you 00:30 - Slaur: sure thing 00:31 - Ze Kat!: sure 00:31 - Ze Kat!: pass it 00:31 - Ze Kat!: you will be coughing blood 00:31 - Slaur: why would i 00:31 - Ze Kat!: especially last exam 00:31 - Ze Kat!: FULL CONTACT FIGHT 00:31 - Ze Kat!: 12 minutes 00:31 - Slaur: i dunno what you think, but i'm not obese or anything 00:31 - Ze Kat!: you know 00:31 - Ze Kat!: you have to run 30kms doing special operations 00:31 - Ze Kat!: then 00:31 - Ze Kat!: without a break 00:31 - Ze Kat!: 12 minutes full contact fight 00:31 - Ze Kat!: 1 against 3 00:32 - Ze Kat!: i had 2 bones broken after exam 00:32 - Ze Kat!: btw 00:32 - Ze Kat!: but i passed 00:33 - Ze Kat!: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2O80zomk_Y&feature=related[/url] 00:33 - Ze Kat!: this is the dark green beret exam 00:34 - Ze Kat!: if you take the fact that light blue berets are higher in military anarchy 00:34 - Ze Kat!: you may see 00:34 - Ze Kat!: [B]i would look at you after running 30kms with 30kg of equipment on you[/B] 00:34 - Ze Kat!: after that 12 minute fight 00:34 - Slaur: uhm 00:34 - Ze Kat!: being tired as fuck 00:34 - Slaur: 30kg is virtually nothing 00:34 - Ze Kat!: sure 00:34 - Ze Kat!: go 00:34 - Ze Kat!: pass exam 00:35 - Slaur: i would but i live in scandinavia 00:35 - Ze Kat!: you have muscles? 00:35 - Ze Kat!: have you done any sports? 00:35 - Slaur: running 00:35 - Ze Kat!: fail of exam guaranteed 00:35 - Slaur: i'm a lightweighter 00:35 - Slaur: lol what 00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am martial arts fighter[/B] 00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]black belt[/B] 00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]of taekwon-do[/B] 00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]1st dan[/B] 00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]and 4 years stage of kickboxing[/B] 00:36 - Slaur: yes 00:36 - Slaur: sure 00:37 - Ze Kat!: no really 00:37 - Ze Kat!: i am 24 00:37 - Ze Kat!: ive spent 7 years getting black belt 00:37 - Ze Kat!: + gym and other shit 00:37 - Ze Kat!: weightlifter 00:37 - Ze Kat!: you are pussy in the comparison of military 00:38 - Slaur: uhm 00:38 - Slaur: not really 00:38 - Ze Kat!: want some sparring? 00:39 - Slaur: i'd easily pass the requirements for both military and police school here 00:39 - Ze Kat!: me too 00:39 - Ze Kat!: i have passed exam to airbone forces 00:39 - Ze Kat!: dude, just dont go there 00:39 - Ze Kat!: you will get bones broken 00:40 - Ze Kat!: really 00:40 - Slaur: i'm wondering about entering the military here for four years as an apprentice 00:41 - Slaur: two years as a trainee at electrooptical weapon engineering and then two years in officer school 00:41 - Ze Kat!: ive finished school in 17 00:41 - Ze Kat!: then got to military school 00:41 - Ze Kat!: then trainings 00:41 - Slaur: most likely i won't go because of an inherited knee damage though 00:41 - Ze Kat!: in 22 ive passed exam and got a contract to work in airbone forces 00:44 - Slaur: do you even have any proper education? 00:44 - Slaur: did you just quit after high school and go right into the military? Ze Kat! is now Away. Ze Kat! is now Online. 00:48 - Ze Kat!: i have a military education 00:48 - Ze Kat!: and yes i do have 00:48 - Ze Kat!: well 00:48 - Ze Kat!: i have lots of shit to do 00:48 - Ze Kat!: and its almost 2 am here 00:48 - Ze Kat!: i need to go sleep 00:48 - Ze Kat!: i think it is time to say good night Ze Kat! is now Offline.[/quote] lol what the part about the arsenal is just b/s btw i had to keep the convo going :-) [editline]16th August 2012[/editline] (4 guests) sup umenat
Speaking of not cleaning guns, I forgot to wipe down my .22 last time I took it on a hike and it's pretty much ruined. Since I was holding it the entire time, I guess sweat got all over it in the 6 or so hours it was in my hands and a month later it's covered in rust. Any way to fix that?
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;37259035]Speaking of not cleaning guns, I forgot to wipe down my .22 last time I took it on a hike and it's pretty much ruined. Since I was holding it the entire time, I guess sweat got all over it in the 6 or so hours it was in my hands and a month later it's covered in rust. Any way to fix that?[/QUOTE] it's probably just surface rust that you can remove with a brass brush, but if you're not careful you'll have to get it refinished. Of course, you could just use it as an excuse to get that nice fancy lady amstripe duracoat you've always wanted
So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work? For example, the countless versions of AK copies out there, the fact that China actually has 1:1 copies of many russian weapons etc.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37259810]So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work?[/QUOTE] 99% of the time it's fair game. [editline]15th August 2012[/editline] be careful with anything Magnum Research though
I snagged a can of oil at walmart. Good to go on cleaning.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37256985]did none of you react earlier?? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts..[/QUOTE] I assumed it was him right off the bad, "Soviet_power", stock photo of an SVD, and piss poor spelling. Tried to give benefit of the doubt though.
I'm trying to work out why Umenant would even bother...
FUCK YEAH, 'MURICA! [url=http://i.imgur.com/V22gj.jpg][img]http://i.imgur.com/V22gjl.jpg[/img][/url]
[QUOTE=download;37260849]I'm trying to work out why Umenant would even bother...[/QUOTE] cuz' epic trolling.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37259810]So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work? For example, the countless versions of AK copies out there, the fact that China actually has 1:1 copies of many russian weapons etc.[/QUOTE] Copyright is for a name, patent is for a design. The name "Remington 870" is copyrighted, but the patent has expired, I think it's 35 years for a patent to expire and then it becomes free game. This is why so many companies make reproductions of old war guns, AR-15s, and 1911s, their patents have expired.
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