I don't even know why you'd bother... Why the fuck is trying to (and failing) at trolling us?
Two permabans and a ban, wow :v:
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37256760]he's pretty easy to spot, just look for anyone who leaves the word A out of all his posts[/QUOTE]
And anyone who has an unnatural affection for everything Russian.
[QUOTE=Teh Zip File;37256827]And anyone who has an unnatural affection for everything Russian.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty erect for 7.62x25
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37256846]I'm pretty erect for 7.62x25[/QUOTE]
I bet Umenat puts 7.62x54 in his pee pee.
did none of you react earlier?? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts..
[QUOTE=Honesty;37256985]did none of you react to that first post? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts.[/QUOTE]
why didn't you call him out earlier then
Jesus, Pruss, make me do all the work why don't you
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37256999]why didn't you call him out earlier then
Jesus, Pruss, make me do all the work why don't you[/QUOTE]
because i figured i'd get flamed
[QUOTE=Honesty;37257023]because i figured i'd get flamed[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have done that :v:
So, who wants to place bets on when USSR pride boy shows up again?
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37257046]I wouldn't have done that :v:
So, who wants to place bets on when USSR pride boy shows up again?[/QUOTE]
i bet that he'll be back within 4 days
I was actually beginning to find that Umenat guy really hillarious, but maybe that's just my humor.
Some people just don't do things like that. There's not a lot you can do.
Give him a stern talking to maybe. Maybe fire a couple rounds at the range with his gun, show him how bad it is, clean it and show him what an improvement it is? I know I'm an experiential learner like that.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;37257155]Some people just don't do things like that. There's not a lot you can do.
Give him a stern talking to maybe. Maybe fire a couple rounds at the range with his gun, show him how bad it is, clean it and show him what an improvement it is? I know I'm an experiential learner like that.[/QUOTE]
If he does it for him then his friend will probably be all "Sweet, he'll clean my guns for me!" and expect him to do it again.
most of my guns hardly ever get cleaned. I never have any issues unless I'm firing shit ammo like remington .22lr or something. My mossberg 702 has had at least 4000 rounds through it since I last did more than run a bore snake through it
[QUOTE=Bazkip;37257209]If he does it for him then his friend will probably be all "Sweet, he'll clean my guns for me!" and expect him to do it again.[/QUOTE]
Only if his friend is an ass.
If he truly cares about guns he needs to be shown how to take care of them, plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;37257111]Anyways, back to gun talk. I just learned from my friend is the laziest piece of shit ever about keeping his guns in good condition. We've been out shooting three times this summer, once every month, and so far I have cleaned my Mosin after every range trip, my shotgun after the first trip (since I haven't fired it since then) and my .22 between the second and third trips because its accuracy was going to hell.
However, my friend has yet to clean anything. His Mosin has had well over 500 corrosive, surplus rounds through it over two months and it's been left in his trunk the entire time. His .22s (a Winchester model 141 and a Marlin 60) have not been cleaned in years. I only noticed that the Marlin was in bad shape when it refused to extract about every 4th round and would get jammed trying to chamber the next round. His Mosin's bore used to look brand new and at this point it's very dull at best, and it's going to take him hours to get that Marlin to cycle properly again.
I fucking hate people that won't take 30 minutes of their time to keep their guns in good shape. I've told him I'm more than willing to lend him my cleaning supplies so that he can keep his stuff in working order but he keeps putting it off.
[editline]15th August 2012[/editline]
I'd give it a week.[/QUOTE]
I always clean guns after going out shooting... I enjoy cleaning them. v:v:v
The thing with this last rendition of Umenat was he was actually fairly well versed in Russian firearms law; pistols are becoming legal soon there, however only low-power ones (300 joules of muzzle energy, IIRC), so the TT-33 is still going to be banned. However, for some reason I still doubt that SVDs are legal for civilian purchase there in any capacity.
That Soviet Power guy had his facts wrong. A light-blue beret signifies the VDV, the Russian airborne division, not Marines.
[quote]Never tell your password to anyone.
16. august 2012
00:10 - Slaur: lol are you serious
00:10 - Ze Kat!: ?
00:10 - Slaur: blue berets suck btw
00:11 - Ze Kat!: dark green suck more
00:11 - Ze Kat!: they dont actually
00:12 - Slaur: telemarksbataljonen > everything else
00:13 - Slaur: i have a bet going that you'll be back on fp within 4 days
00:13 - Ze Kat!: nah
00:13 - Ze Kat!: i will not be catched next time
00:15 - Ze Kat!: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_forces[/url]
00:15 - Ze Kat!: ive always served there
00:16 - Ze Kat!: anyway
00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am just a shitty high sergeant[/B]
00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i was a low sergeant when served in army[/B]
00:16 - Ze Kat!: [B]i actually didnt give a shit[/B]
00:16 - Ze Kat!: but then got a higher rank
00:16 - Ze Kat!: now i work there
00:16 - Ze Kat!: almost 4000$ per month
00:17 - Ze Kat!: enough for me
00:17 - Ze Kat!: because i risk my shitty life
00:17 - Ze Kat!: and ass
00:17 - Ze Kat!: you may post that to shitty faecpanch
00:18 - Ze Kat!: i am working by contract anyway
00:18 - Slaur: lol what
00:18 - Ze Kat!: yes
00:18 - Slaur: so
00:18 - Slaur: your svd
00:18 - Ze Kat!: in order to work in airbone forces you must have a contract
00:18 - Slaur: what is its twist rate
00:18 - Ze Kat!: gay
00:19 - Ze Kat!: i didnt shoot it yet
00:19 - Ze Kat!: its new
00:19 - Slaur: can you take a photo of it?
00:19 - Ze Kat!: ive just passed a shittons of shit to register it
00:19 - Ze Kat!: later
00:19 - Slaur: what settings do the ironsights have?
00:19 - Ze Kat!: weird
00:19 - Ze Kat!: i am not sniper
00:19 - Ze Kat!: i use AK
00:20 - Ze Kat!: [B]so i am dumb at this things[/B]
00:20 - Ze Kat!: dont ask me anything regarding that
00:20 - Slaur: the rear ironsight
00:20 - Ze Kat!: all i can tell is that the optical crosshair is COMPLETELY different like in all sniper rifles
00:20 - Slaur: up to what range can you set it on
00:20 - Slaur: yes i know the PSO crosshair has a range finder and chevrons
00:20 - Ze Kat!: yes
00:21 - Ze Kat!: i am going to set it to the lovest range of 200m
00:21 - Ze Kat!: i dont need more for hunting
00:21 - Ze Kat!: i will use it for hunting anyway
00:21 - Slaur: as in you'll zero the sight at 200m?
00:21 - Slaur: i am pretty sure that they're meant to be zeroed at 100m though
00:21 - Slaur: because of how the chevrons work
00:21 - Ze Kat!: ive shot some other sniper rifles
00:21 - Ze Kat!: steyr
00:22 - Ze Kat!: and other shit
00:22 - Ze Kat!: they have a milldot
00:22 - Ze Kat!: i have a PSO
00:22 - Ze Kat!: SVD-S
00:22 - Ze Kat!: 1981
00:22 - Ze Kat!: old but looks like new
00:22 - Slaur: 5 rounder or 10?
00:22 - Ze Kat!: both
00:23 - Ze Kat!: i have 2 mags
00:23 - Ze Kat!: 5 and 10
00:23 - Ze Kat!: i use 10
00:23 - Ze Kat!: i am going to get a long mag for svd
00:23 - Ze Kat!: 20 round
00:23 - Ze Kat!: anyway
00:23 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am dumb at sniper shit[/B]
00:23 - Slaur: aren't those made for the automatic svds
00:23 - Ze Kat!: in my work i use AKM-101
00:24 - Ze Kat!: svd is not automatic
00:24 - Ze Kat!: its semi automatic only
00:24 - Slaur: the automatic svd used 20 round magazines
00:24 - Slaur: there is a full auto version
00:24 - Ze Kat!: there are NO automatic svd
00:24 - Slaur: uhm
00:24 - Ze Kat!: [B]HOW THE FUCK you can imagine an automatic sniper rifle?[/B]
00:24 - Slaur: SVU-A
00:24 - Ze Kat!: [B]its just dumb[/B]
00:24 - Ze Kat!: maybe there is
00:24 - Ze Kat!: but i have never seen
00:25 - Slaur: [url]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/sniper/sn19/svu-a_1.jpg[/url]
00:25 - Slaur: here
00:25 - Ze Kat!: itsa bullpup
00:25 - Ze Kat!: real shit
00:25 - Slaur: bullpup SVD with full auto selector
00:25 - Ze Kat!: i am glad we dont have those
00:25 - Ze Kat!: [B]i hate bullpup[/B]
00:25 - Slaur: bullpup works fine if done right
00:25 - Slaur: e.g. barrett M95 and M99
00:25 - Slaur: for target rifles it's fine
00:26 - Slaur: for military and hunting rifles it's most of the time a dumb idea
00:26 - Slaur: the l85 is an example; it's pure shit
00:26 - Ze Kat!: i repeat
00:26 - Ze Kat!: i serve in airbone forces
00:26 - Ze Kat!: I NEVER USED SNIPER RIFLE THERE
00:26 - Ze Kat!: i used AK
00:26 - Ze Kat!: [B]its [I]and[/I] ASSAULT rifle[/B]
00:26 - Ze Kat!: not sniper
00:26 - Slaur: what cal is your ak101 in huh?
00:26 - Ze Kat!: 5.45
00:26 - Slaur: cool you actually knew
00:27 - Ze Kat!: 5.45x39
00:27 - Slaur: you guys use any optics on them?
00:28 - Ze Kat!: only special forces use [B]optics at AK'S[/B]
00:28 - Ze Kat!: even if they use them
00:28 - Ze Kat!: its [B]dumb[/B]
00:28 - Ze Kat!: [B]uneffective[/B]
00:28 - Slaur: lol why would that be dumb
00:28 - Slaur: stock AK ironsights are horrid
00:28 - Ze Kat!: dude
00:28 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am shitty sergeant[/B]
00:28 - Ze Kat!: ive only used a AK 101
00:29 - Ze Kat!: and some pistols
00:29 - Ze Kat!: nothing more
00:29 - Slaur: i'm asking why optics on an AK is dumb
00:29 - Ze Kat!: have you shot ak74?
00:29 - Slaur: [U]i've shot an Arsenal SAR-M1 in 7,62x39[/U]
00:29 - Slaur: why
00:29 - Slaur: [U]it had AK74M furniture[/U]
00:29 - Ze Kat!: cool
00:29 - Ze Kat!: how is the recoil>
00:29 - Ze Kat!: ?
00:30 - Slaur: i'd put it somewhere between .223 remington and .308 winchester
00:30 - Slaur: it's not snappy but you still feel it
00:30 - Ze Kat!: also
00:30 - Ze Kat!: before calling us dumb
00:30 - Ze Kat!: that light blue berets are shit
00:30 - Ze Kat!: try to pass our exam
00:30 - Ze Kat!: i will laugh at you
00:30 - Slaur: sure thing
00:31 - Ze Kat!: sure
00:31 - Ze Kat!: pass it
00:31 - Ze Kat!: you will be coughing blood
00:31 - Slaur: why would i
00:31 - Ze Kat!: especially last exam
00:31 - Ze Kat!: FULL CONTACT FIGHT
00:31 - Ze Kat!: 12 minutes
00:31 - Slaur: i dunno what you think, but i'm not obese or anything
00:31 - Ze Kat!: you know
00:31 - Ze Kat!: you have to run 30kms doing special operations
00:31 - Ze Kat!: then
00:31 - Ze Kat!: without a break
00:31 - Ze Kat!: 12 minutes full contact fight
00:31 - Ze Kat!: 1 against 3
00:32 - Ze Kat!: i had 2 bones broken after exam
00:32 - Ze Kat!: btw
00:32 - Ze Kat!: but i passed
00:33 - Ze Kat!: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2O80zomk_Y&feature=related[/url]
00:33 - Ze Kat!: this is the dark green beret exam
00:34 - Ze Kat!: if you take the fact that light blue berets are higher in military anarchy
00:34 - Ze Kat!: you may see
00:34 - Ze Kat!: [B]i would look at you after running 30kms with 30kg of equipment on you[/B]
00:34 - Ze Kat!: after that 12 minute fight
00:34 - Slaur: uhm
00:34 - Ze Kat!: being tired as fuck
00:34 - Slaur: 30kg is virtually nothing
00:34 - Ze Kat!: sure
00:34 - Ze Kat!: go
00:34 - Ze Kat!: pass exam
00:35 - Slaur: i would but i live in scandinavia
00:35 - Ze Kat!: you have muscles?
00:35 - Ze Kat!: have you done any sports?
00:35 - Slaur: running
00:35 - Ze Kat!: fail of exam guaranteed
00:35 - Slaur: i'm a lightweighter
00:35 - Slaur: lol what
00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]i am martial arts fighter[/B]
00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]black belt[/B]
00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]of taekwon-do[/B]
00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]1st dan[/B]
00:36 - Ze Kat!: [B]and 4 years stage of kickboxing[/B]
00:36 - Slaur: yes
00:36 - Slaur: sure
00:37 - Ze Kat!: no really
00:37 - Ze Kat!: i am 24
00:37 - Ze Kat!: ive spent 7 years getting black belt
00:37 - Ze Kat!: + gym and other shit
00:37 - Ze Kat!: weightlifter
00:37 - Ze Kat!: you are pussy in the comparison of military
00:38 - Slaur: uhm
00:38 - Slaur: not really
00:38 - Ze Kat!: want some sparring?
00:39 - Slaur: i'd easily pass the requirements for both military and police school here
00:39 - Ze Kat!: me too
00:39 - Ze Kat!: i have passed exam to airbone forces
00:39 - Ze Kat!: dude, just dont go there
00:39 - Ze Kat!: you will get bones broken
00:40 - Ze Kat!: really
00:40 - Slaur: i'm wondering about entering the military here for four years as an apprentice
00:41 - Slaur: two years as a trainee at electrooptical weapon engineering and then two years in officer school
00:41 - Ze Kat!: ive finished school in 17
00:41 - Ze Kat!: then got to military school
00:41 - Ze Kat!: then trainings
00:41 - Slaur: most likely i won't go because of an inherited knee damage though
00:41 - Ze Kat!: in 22 ive passed exam and got a contract to work in airbone forces
00:44 - Slaur: do you even have any proper education?
00:44 - Slaur: did you just quit after high school and go right into the military?
Ze Kat! is now Away.
Ze Kat! is now Online.
00:48 - Ze Kat!: i have a military education
00:48 - Ze Kat!: and yes i do have
00:48 - Ze Kat!: well
00:48 - Ze Kat!: i have lots of shit to do
00:48 - Ze Kat!: and its almost 2 am here
00:48 - Ze Kat!: i need to go sleep
00:48 - Ze Kat!: i think it is time to say good night
Ze Kat! is now Offline.[/quote]
lol what
the part about the arsenal is just b/s btw i had to keep the convo going :-)
[editline]16th August 2012[/editline]
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sup umenat
Speaking of not cleaning guns, I forgot to wipe down my .22 last time I took it on a hike and it's pretty much ruined.
Since I was holding it the entire time, I guess sweat got all over it in the 6 or so hours it was in my hands and a month later it's covered in rust.
Any way to fix that?
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;37259035]Speaking of not cleaning guns, I forgot to wipe down my .22 last time I took it on a hike and it's pretty much ruined.
Since I was holding it the entire time, I guess sweat got all over it in the 6 or so hours it was in my hands and a month later it's covered in rust.
Any way to fix that?[/QUOTE]
it's probably just surface rust that you can remove with a brass brush, but if you're not careful you'll have to get it refinished. Of course, you could just use it as an excuse to get that nice fancy lady amstripe duracoat you've always wanted
So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work? For example, the countless versions of AK copies out there, the fact that China actually has 1:1 copies of many russian weapons etc.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37259810]So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work?[/QUOTE]
99% of the time it's fair game.
[editline]15th August 2012[/editline]
be careful with anything Magnum Research though
I snagged a can of oil at walmart. Good to go on cleaning.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37256985]did none of you react earlier?? i instantly thought "umenat" when i saw the piss poor spelling in his first two posts..[/QUOTE]
I assumed it was him right off the bad, "Soviet_power", stock photo of an SVD, and piss poor spelling. Tried to give benefit of the doubt though.
I'm trying to work out why Umenant would even bother...
[QUOTE=download;37260849]I'm trying to work out why Umenant would even bother...[/QUOTE]
cuz' epic trolling.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37259810]So does anyone know anything at all about firearms copyrights? Like lets say I was a firearms manufacturer and I wanted to make a firearm that resembles one from another country. How does that work? For example, the countless versions of AK copies out there, the fact that China actually has 1:1 copies of many russian weapons etc.[/QUOTE]
Copyright is for a name, patent is for a design. The name "Remington 870" is copyrighted, but the patent has expired, I think it's 35 years for a patent to expire and then it becomes free game. This is why so many companies make reproductions of old war guns, AR-15s, and 1911s, their patents have expired.
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