• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37450692]So why can't I get a C&R license at 18? This shit just makes no sense to me. Gotta stop them teenagers from doing drive byes with k-31s.[/QUOTE] because a C&R is an FFL and all the rules and regulations that apply to an FFL apply to a C&R
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;37450708]Because many handguns also fall under the C&R license and people under 21 can't [I]buy[/I] handguns.[/QUOTE] ftfy. You can own a handgun under 21 either by private purchase or a gift. You just can't purchase one from a dealer until you're 21. Some states vary based on handgun licensing though
Wait, so if I have my C&R, I'm technically an FFL (of sorts) and can have guns shipped to me that qualify as C&R?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37450546] it's 1898 or earlier, not earlier than 1898. if it was made in 1898 it's fine, if it was made in 1899 it's not.[/QUOTE] Right, I was talking about how, for example, some of the Finnish Mosin's are built on antique receivers, but were completely overhauled in the 40's, but they still qualify as antiques [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ewitwins;37450905]Wait, so if I have my C&R, I'm technically an FFL (of sorts) and can have guns shipped to me that qualify as C&R?[/QUOTE] Right, because it's an FFL licence. It's essentially intended for collecting, you're not allowed to make a substantial portion of you're income from selling firearms with a C&R.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37447850]Let's level that off at 950-1200 yards.[/QUOTE] [B][I][U]why[/U][/I][/B] would you hunt deer at that range??? "sidewind LOL ah hit its jaw"
[QUOTE=ewitwins;37450905]Wait, so if I have my C&R, I'm technically an FFL (of sorts) and can have guns shipped to me that qualify as C&R?[/QUOTE] that's the entire point of a C&R [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] I think it might let you own NFA items that came out of the factory as NFA without paying a tax stamp but don't quote me on that one
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37451084]that's the entire point of a C&R [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] I think it might let you own NFA items that came out of the factory as NFA without paying a tax stamp but don't quote me on that one[/QUOTE] What it allows you to do is eliminate a step in the NFA transfer process. You still need to have an NFA license to purchase NFA items, but having a C&R along with the NFA license lets you skip going through a Class III dealer with your NFA purchases. It also makes it easier to acquire an NFA license.
There's no such thing as an NFA license. I know of a short-barreled shotgun with a pistol grip that falls under the C&R license and doesn't require a transfer fee for a C&R holder [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] though I think it might actually be considered a smoothbore pistol so it's still just a $5 fee
Oh, my mistake. I was under the impression that you needed to posses a certain FFL to own full auto firearms. Well cool, someday I might actually get my ever elusive and desirable M2 Carbine :)
no, anyone can own any full auto-firearm registered before may 1986 provided they have the money to buy the weapon. Anything registered after may '86 is restricted to law enforcement and government officials, but class 3 FFL holders can get what are called "dealer samples" [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] You "might" actually get an M2 but considering that they go in the $30,000 USD range I wouldn't count on it
I see them for ~$6000 all the time. Saw a nice Rock-Ola at a gun show last month for $5700
Hate to disrupt your C&R and NFA discussions, but does anyone know of a good way of getting rid of chalk/waxed markings? Someone decided to put white shit in the serial numbers on the receiver and floorplate, and on the elevation sights on my M38. Normally I wouldn't care too much, but it looks like its been there for a long time and turned yellow/reddish (could be due to cosmoline).
Fire.
I would either try boiling it out or possibly something like brake cleaner might work.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;37452239]Fire.[/QUOTE] Don't do this. You'll ruin the temper and hardness of the metal and you gun may explode
No are you fucking retarded? I am not talking about putting it in a smelter but using a small lighter or something. That won't affect the metal at all.
I might do it once just to say I've done it. Though in Australia it might be a good idea for picking off lots of feral animals at once so they don't hear you. Maybe not at such extreme ranges though
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;37452857]No are you fucking retarded? I am not talking about putting it in a smelter but using a small lighter or something. That won't affect the metal at all.[/QUOTE] I used a heat gun in small amounts to remove the cosmo on my Mosin
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;37453964]please answer this because nobody would hunt at ranges like that except idiots trying to show off[/QUOTE] Evidently you've never been coyote hunting in Ontario, people often hunt the devils at 500+ metres.
[QUOTE=Gordy H.;37450708]Because many handguns also fall under the C&R license and people under 21 can't own handguns.[/QUOTE] And that still doesn't make sense to me.
[QUOTE=16bit;37454457]I used a heat gun in small amounts to remove the cosmo on my Mosin[/QUOTE] Oh fuck you totally broke the metal and exploded the clip
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;37453964]please answer this because nobody would hunt at ranges like that except idiots trying to show off[/QUOTE] I like to show off... I probably would.
Probably would miss.
[QUOTE=felix the cat;37452125]I see them for ~$6000 all the time. Saw a nice Rock-Ola at a gun show last month for $5700[/QUOTE] I don't know if you're talking M2 Carbine but I'm talking M2 Browning.
Oh, yeah. I'll never be able to afford an M2 Browning :v:
My gun store has about 10 Mosin Nagants for sell for about 165 USD each. I turn 18 in about 2 weeks, so I'm going to be buying one. Any tips for choosing which Mosin is the best? I plan on using surplus ammunition, by the way. Anything I should know about it? Is Bulgarian Surplus the same as Russian? I'll also probably get some self defense rounds for an off-time whenever I may need them.
If they're re-arsenals, that's too much for a Mosin. Obviously you want to look for all the normal things, like the bore condition, crown, rifling, etc. Check to see if the bolt matches, and also check for rough machining and smoothness of cycling. The better and more collectable of the Mosins are the Hex receiver ones, also Finnish Mosins. I doubt they're Finnish mosins at that price, but that's p. good for a hex receiver. Again, if it's the standard ol' round receiver re-arsenals, buy elsewhere. Check for unique markings like Finnish, German, or other property marks. Also, if you want, you can take a look inside the receiver for plugged holes, which indicates it was a former sniper rifle. Here's a very good Mosin resource [url]http://7.62x54r.net/[/url]
[QUOTE=stupidass;37458155]My gun store has about 10 Mosin Nagants for sell for about 165 USD each. I turn 18 in about 2 weeks, so I'm going to be buying one. Any tips for choosing which Mosin is the best? I plan on using surplus ammunition, by the way. Anything I should know about it? Is Bulgarian Surplus the same as Russian? I'll also probably get some self defense rounds for an off-time whenever I may need them.[/QUOTE] hex receivers or ex-snipers are the best quality. hex receivers look like this: [img]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/pagegurl/GunsandDisney034.jpg[/img] ex snipers will have these two plugs inside the receiver [img]http://www.ai4fr.com/main/img_1209917334_16927_1218563555_mod_450_350.jpg[/img]
I'm pretty sure they're all Hex, but I'd have to check. I'm certainly not paying 165 for a round. I was hoping to get one with the mount, but those are costly as I've heard. I may just end up buying 2 and using one as sort of a 'historic' variant whilst I put an ATI stock and scope on the other.
[QUOTE=stupidass;37458155] I plan on using surplus ammunition, by the way. Anything I should know about it? Is Bulgarian Surplus the same as Russian? I'll also probably get some self defense rounds for an off-time whenever I may need them.[/QUOTE] P. much all of the surplus is about the same quality, it's good ammo, but corrosive. Be prepared to do some slightly more extensive cleaning. The 7.62x54r is [I]plenty[/I] powerful for self defense purposes, hollow points or soft points is [I]way[/I] overkill and entirely unneccessary [editline]29th August 2012[/editline] If any of them have Remington, New Westinghouse, or Chatellerault trades on them, BUY IT STAT.
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