If a c96 has a stock attached isn't it an SBR? You don't have to be 21 to buy an sbr afaik
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37470027]If a c96 has a stock attached isn't it an SBR? You don't have to be 21 to buy an sbr afaik[/QUOTE]
I believe the C96 is exempt, as long as the stock is the one that was originally with the gun (which, AFAIK, is very hard to prove for or against)
Had a Red 9 C96 at my local shop a couple years ago for $500. I wasn't 21 at the time :(
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37470027]If a c96 has a stock attached isn't it an SBR? You don't have to be 21 to buy an sbr afaik[/QUOTE]
No, if it was an SBR it wouldn't be legal here. I believe it's still classified as a pistol since the stock is removable
What sort of shithole do you live in that sbrs are illegal
Michigan.
Move far away asap
To a nice place like PA.
At least you dont live in NY, home of the shoulder thing that goes up
There's one thing I can't grasp about SBR laws though.
Requiring checks, paperwork and restrictions if you want to saw down a rifle is understandable, since you're making it more concealable and blah blah yadda yadda. But if you want to add a stock to a pistol, why does it require the same hassle as the other way around?
You have to be 21 to buy a handgun or anything classed as a pistol, AND you'd be making it longer, bulkier and harder to hide in your pants/jacket/whatever. It's not logical at all.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;37474359]There's one thing I can't grasp about SBR laws though.
Requiring checks, paperwork and restrictions if you want to saw down a rifle is understandable, since you're making it more concealable and blah blah yadda yadda. But if you want to add a stock to a pistol, why does it require the same hassle as the other way around?
You have to be 21 to buy a handgun or anything classed as a pistol, AND you'd be making it longer, bulkier and harder to hide in your pants/jacket/whatever. It's not logical at all.[/QUOTE]
because it makes it easier to hip fire and kill cops with and you can mount a bayonet and a grenade launcher to it!1111
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37472259]Move far away asap[/QUOTE]
We are a full auto state though C:
Afaik, SBRs are the only kind of firearms that are illegal here. Other than that we actually have fairly lax firearm laws
[QUOTE=felix the cat;37476278]We are a full auto state though C:
Afaik, SBRs are the only kind of firearms that are illegal here. Other than that we actually have fairly lax firearm laws[/QUOTE]
all states allow full auto
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bro I don't think you know shit about gun laws
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37476407]all states allow full auto[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37476466]Are you kidding?[/QUOTE]
it's literally just one ATF form that you have to fill no matter where you are. some states prohibit ownership of NFA items (but we don't like those states) but none prohibit use
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37476593]it's literally just one ATF form that you have to fill no matter where you are. some states prohibit ownership of NFA items (but we don't like those states) but none prohibit use[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked Class 3 is [I]not[/I] allowed at all in Illinois.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37476608]Last time I checked Class 3 is [I]not[/I] allowed at all in Illinois.[/QUOTE]
Neither do California, New York and I'm fairly certain Massachusetts.
[QUOTE=Ridge;37476789]Neither do California, New York and I'm fairly certain Massachusetts.[/QUOTE]
massachusetts I know allows them, New York I'm not certain about but I think it's just New York City. California only requires a separate license to own automatics. it's the same state-issued license that allows ownership of SBRs and SBSs
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)[/url]
California:
[QUOTE]NFA weapons restricted? Possession of automatic weapons or short-barreled shotguns or rifles prohibited without DOJ "Dangerous Weapons Permit"; permission rarely granted outside of film industry. Suppressors (aka silencers) prohibited. AOW's (Any Other Weapons) permitted, except for "pen guns."
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Massachusetts]Massachusetts[/url]:
[QUOTE]A license to possess or carry a machine gun may be issued only to a firearm instructor certified by the Criminal Justice Training Council for the sole purpose of firearm instruction to police personnel, or to a bona fide collector of firearms upon application or renewal of such license.
A "bona fide collector of firearms," for the purpose of issuance of a machine gun license, shall be defined as an individual who acquires firearms for such lawful purposes as historical significance, display, research, lecturing, demonstration, test firing, investment or other like purpose.[/QUOTE]
I can't find any laws regarding full auto in New York state
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37476407]all states allow full auto
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hahaha you're fucking funny
[quote]bro I don't think you know shit about gun laws[/QUOTE]
oh god the irony is KILLING me here
I hate california.
fuck this country, east coast was way better
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37477156]hahaha you're fucking funny
oh god the irony is KILLING me here[/QUOTE]
illinois and new jersey are the only ones I can remember now that disallow full auto and lets be honest how often do you remember either of those states
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and iowa but again who remembers that state
[editline]30th August 2012[/editline]
washington and rhode island don't forbid them but they're pretty heavily restricted to the point of prohibition not making them any harder to get
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37477176]illinois and new jersey are the only ones I can remember now that disallow full auto and lets be honest how often do you remember either of those states
[editline]30th August 2012[/editline]
and iowa but again who remembers that state
[editline]30th August 2012[/editline]
washington and rhode island don't forbid them but they're pretty heavily restricted to the point of prohibition not making them any harder to get[/QUOTE]
NY is a pretty well known state and machine guns are banned here
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37477297]NY is a pretty well known state and machine guns are banned here[/QUOTE]
as far as I remember, anyone with an FFL other than type 3 or 6 can own an automatic weapon in New York.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37477398]as far as I remember, anyone with an FFL other than type 3 or 6 can own an automatic weapon in New York.[/QUOTE]
nope, possession completely banned
if you already owned one prior to the ban I [I]think[/I] you can still technically own it but cant transport, sell, or dispose of it
[editline]31st August 2012[/editline]
Oh and FFL type doesnt supersede local laws, just FYI
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37477501]nope, possession completely banned
if you already owned one prior to the ban I [I]think[/I] you can still technically own it but cant transport, sell, or dispose of it
[editline]31st August 2012[/editline]
Oh and FFL type doesnt supersede local laws, just FYI[/QUOTE]
bro FFLs other than 3 and 6 are dealer and manufacturer. where do the police get their automatics then?
Up until about 6 years ago full autos were completely illegal to posses here. And up until just recently suppressors were also illegal to own. States, counties, and cities can independently regulate any NFA items they please regardless of their legality at a national level.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37469086]I was gonna rage so hard when he put the AK next to the STG44 but then he correctly IDed it and made the differentiation :v:
Excellent watch, nice to see a guy who knows what the fuck he is talking about[/QUOTE]
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised also, he just seems like a very good professional in general. Many MDs could not give a fuck about anything unless it comes from a medical textbook, no matter how useful extracurricular knowledge may be. They are the shit doctors and there are a lot of them unfortunately.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37477176]illinois and new jersey are the only ones I can remember now that disallow full auto and lets be honest how often do you remember either of those states
[editline]30th August 2012[/editline]
and iowa but again who remembers that state
[editline]30th August 2012[/editline]
washington and rhode island don't forbid them but they're pretty heavily restricted to the point of prohibition not making them any harder to get[/QUOTE]
I remember Illinois. :( I have to live here.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37477595]bro FFLs other than 3 and 6 are dealer and manufacturer. where do the police get their automatics then?[/QUOTE]
theres an exception in our penal law for military and police
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