that obrez is short enough to be a pistol
dude what
[QUOTE=Raijin;37698286]that obrez is short enough to be a pistol
dude what[/QUOTE]
Dude what?
[QUOTE=Raijin;37698286]that obrez is short enough to be a pistol[/QUOTE]
Uh, being a pistol is EXACTLY what the Obrez is all about.
i mean like a standard pistol
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a normal obrez is still classified as a rifle by most people
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37698224]Lee Enfield Obrez
[img]http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228025_369755903101758_611894119_n.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
South Australia.
Ban all firearms ever because they all can obviously be modified into a concealable weapon.
My wrists hurt just looking at it
[QUOTE=Araknid;37698741]South Australia.
Ban all firearms ever because they all can obviously be modified into a concealable weapon.[/QUOTE]
I could see that happening.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37699303]I could see that happening.[/QUOTE]
It's basically what happened.
for some reason i think this dude is funny
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1emn9_XMIE[/media]
still an interesting video, i've never seen someone assemble an AR-15 before
[QUOTE=Jimmaye;37697024]Are any of you guys looking to buy some World War 2 era guns (fullauto kits and rifles semi/bolt action).
Prices look alright.
[url]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/selling-some-parts-kits-and-rifles/#more-4844[/url][/QUOTE]
Oh god MAS rifles. I went to a gunstore several days ago, and again yesterday just to fondle a MAS 49/56. Not only is it cheaper, but it's not converted to .308(the converted ones often slamfire, or so I've been told).
[QUOTE=Raijin;37698707]i mean like a standard pistol
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a normal obrez is still classified as a rifle by most people[/QUOTE]
According to the ATF it's a handgun; and that's all that matters.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37698224]Lee Enfield Obrez
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10 MOA accuracy at a range of 5 feet.
That website kinda made me amazed at how many countries were adopting the mauser at the turn of the century. Kinda funny seeing all the different variations of a single rifle.
I guess all those rifles are cheap because they are in ok condition, some have bad bores. These guys aren't going to rip people off.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;37698224]Lee Enfield Obrez
[img]http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228025_369755903101758_611894119_n.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I just looked at this again and realized that .303 must be within like millimeters of sticking out of the end of the barrel
[QUOTE=Ridge;37645482]Had an interview today at an ammunition distributor. They said they'll let me know tomorrow if I get the job. If I do, that means I'll be out of the state 3 weekends a month working gun shows in places like Texas and Missouri.[/QUOTE]
I was offered the job today, but I think I'm going to turn it down. I'd never see any of my friends or family, because my only full day off is Tuesday. Driving between 700 and 900 miles each way every weekend doesn't really appeal to me, either. :(
I really want number 15 off that list, sounds like an excellent buy
despite misconception the recoil of an obrez is not harsh at all.
so much unburnt powder
[QUOTE=Aman VII;37706200]despite misconception the recoil of an obrez is not harsh at all.
so much unburnt powder[/QUOTE]
If you're speaking from experience and know where to get an Obrez in Canada tell me. Like now.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;37706200]despite misconception the recoil of an obrez is not harsh at all.
so much unburnt powder[/QUOTE]
I'm confused, why would there be unburnt powder?
Sorry comrade no Obrez for us.
The Obrez's barrel length isn't long enough to fully use 7.62x54r properly. Hence the belching of still burning powder in the form of the fireball and some unburnt powder residue.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;37706369]I'm confused, why would there be unburnt powder?[/QUOTE]
Because there's not enough barrel to keep all the powder contained in while it burns. Here's a good example.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZaK7D4XVo8[/media]
although Canadians can make our own firearms as long as they follow the already in place rules. So you could make a home made ghetto Obrez in some form but don't quote me when the RCMP asks what you're doing. Then again how will they ever find out.
But a an M44 Mosin has a stouter recoil than a full length 91/30, and the No.5 is much stouter of a recoil than a No.1 or No.4, so why wouldn't the same principle apply to an Obrez?
[QUOTE=felix the cat;37707635]But a an M44 Mosin has a stouter recoil than a full length 91/30, and the No.5 is much stouter of a recoil than a No.1 or No.4, so why wouldn't the same principle apply to an Obrez?[/QUOTE]
An obrez has such a short barrel that it doesn't have enough room to build the pressures that those carbines would. The carbines kick as much as they do because they are lighter.
My friend found this super rare suicide mission Mosin on gunbroker.
[URL]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=306555784[/URL]
I'm pretty sure the shorter barrels contribute to the added recoil as well though.
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[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37707876]An obrez has such a short barrel that it doesn't have enough room to build the pressures that those carbines would. The carbines kick as much as they do because they are lighter.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure there's a cut off point, but if you lop off 50% of a rifle's barrel, you then get ~200% more gas pressure at the muzzle than at full length, which also contributes to felt recoil.
I suppose that an Obrez may be so short that it's past the cut off point and the pressures start reducing back towards normal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't
[QUOTE=MisDiagnosed;37707990]My friend found this super rare suicide mission Mosin on gunbroker.
[URL]http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=306555784[/URL][/QUOTE]
These idiots really want people to believe that orange grease is 70-80 y/o cyanide?
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