• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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I just don't want the AFT using my body as a jumpy castle. [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=DaCommie1;34919401]Fuck those, if I were you I'd look up the legality of rock salt. AFAIK use of it is considered a war crime.[/QUOTE] The fuck? That's all the farmers around here pack to chase teenagers off their fields.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34919381]Wait so does that mean it's illegal to use flachette ammunition for home defense? :v:[/QUOTE] Yes.
Not trying to be an ass or anything, but what effects would make Flechette better than buckshot?
[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;34919615]Not trying to be an ass or anything, but what effects would make Flechette better than buckshot?[/QUOTE] Flechette flies farther and tighter than buck shot. It also has better penetration. You sacrifice the knock down power of buck shot though.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;34919758]Flechette flies farther and tighter than buck shot. It also has better penetration. You sacrifice the knock down power of buck shot though.[/QUOTE] That and you're literally shooting razor-sharp needles :v: That alone should be scary enough [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] Are flachettes legal for [b]anything[/b]?
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;34919758]Flechette flies farther and tighter than buck shot. It also has better penetration. You sacrifice the knock down power of buck shot though.[/QUOTE] Maybe that tighter spread is good for indoors, but long range and penetration (I'm a little less certain about this one) are fairly undesirable in home defense. I would rather a guaranteed knock down with buckshot, rather than shooting a possibly unreliable exotic round. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ewitwins;34919958]That and you're literally shooting razor-sharp needles :v: That alone should be scary enough [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] Are flachettes legal for [b]anything[/b]?[/QUOTE] I don't know about now, but they used them in artillery in a battle during Vietnam. It had devastating effects. If irc, they were charging a firing base and they pretty much were shooting point plank (by artillery standards).
[QUOTE=cardfan212;34917234]Oh boy, I would totally use those confetti rounds in a home defense situation. "Gimme all your stuff." "Nope." *POOF* Commence dance party.[/QUOTE] That's not a bad idea, load the party shell first with the actual one so when you're aiming at the perpetrator you can fire off the first shell to scare him shitless and give him a taste of reality and then warn him that the next shot fired will be real. That or you can load another party shell for shits and giggles.
The party shells and the flamethrower shells actually look pretty fucking fun, but I have no idea what kind of damage I would do putting red-hot magnesium down the barrel of my shotgun
[QUOTE=SpasticPinoy;34920154]That's not a bad idea, load the party shell first with the actual one so when you're aiming at the perpetrator you can fire off the first shell to scare him shitless and give him a taste of reality and then warn him that the next shot fired will be real. That or you can load another party shell for shits and giggles.[/QUOTE] For some reason I thought of this: I know I'm predictable. Skip to a bout 2:55 [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JnqewMfLfY[/MEDIA]
Hey, so I just found out from one of my friends that I now apparently have access to a drill-press. As luck would have it, I did some digging and I also found this: [url]http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/firefield-reproduction-35x-mosin-nagant-svt-40-rifle-scope.aspx?a=910189[/url]
I was looking at this scope, 1000x. [url]http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/40x100x400x1000x-microscope.aspx?a=731974[/url] High powered shit man, would be nice for the AR. Just need to find a gunsmith to build me a mount.
So I've been looking into old surplus straight-pull bolt actions recently, mostly out of curiosity. The Ross seems to have more or less vanished, so I'm looking at either the Mannlicher M95, or the Swiss K31. I've heard great things about the K31 in terms of accuracy, surplus 7.5mm rounds aren't too hard to find. Plus it has a unique 6 round magazine, and loads via those nifty stripper clips that cover most of the round. However, I've heard that sometimes the stocks are bad, and they are a bit pricier than the M95, although by no means expensive. The M95 on the other hand is dirt cheap, not much more than a nugget for a carbine (more for a full rifle), and feeds from en bloc clips, which is also quite cool. Of course accuracy will be worse for carbines (partially due to its shorter length), but otherwise I don't know much about the quality of them. The main downside is that finding 8x56R is a major pain in the ass, as well as being expensive. Thoughts?
Just sold my 1950's Daisy BB rifle for 30$ awwyea
[QUOTE=The Luftwaffle;34922403]So I've been looking into old surplus straight-pull bolt actions recently, mostly out of curiosity. The Ross seems to have more or less vanished, so I'm looking at either the Mannlicher M95, or the Swiss K31. I've heard great things about the K31 in terms of accuracy, surplus 7.5mm rounds aren't too hard to find. Plus it has a unique 6 round magazine, and loads via those nifty stripper clips that cover most of the round. However, I've heard that sometimes the stocks are bad, and they are a bit pricier than the M95, although by no means expensive. The M95 on the other hand is dirt cheap, not much more than a nugget for a carbine (more for a full rifle), and feeds from en bloc clips, which is also quite cool. Of course accuracy will be worse for carbines (partially due to its shorter length), but otherwise I don't know much about the quality of them. The main downside is that finding 8x56R is a major pain in the ass, as well as being expensive. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] I had no idea something like a straight-pull bolt action existed, and that's pretty damn cool. Honestly, I would go with the K31 simply because the rounds are easier to find, unless that is you load your own ammunition currently. If that's the case, then go with the M95 and reload your ammunition to cut down on costs.
[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;34913418]We discussed similar cases on /k/ many times, since they have a hobby of loading all kinds of crazy shit into 12ga shells. Apparently, it'd count as an unusual/cruel death, so brace for jail time. Although, fending off home invaders by shooting at them lego men dressed as Superman is certainly going to result in the most PRICELESS look on the judge's face. If that's worth it to you, go ahead.[/QUOTE] Honestly some of the shit I tried to put in shells would count as cruel/unusual death to the user not the intended target haha
Make a sand shell, just blasts sand everywhere.
During a session with 2 of my friends, one of them (The Serb, obviously) had the bright idea of smashing his shot glass and crushing it and using it as a load for a shell, it was messy and never really worked, bit of it got under the plastic wad.
[QUOTE=The Luftwaffle;34922403]So I've been looking into old surplus straight-pull bolt actions recently, mostly out of curiosity. The Ross seems to have more or less vanished, so I'm looking at either the Mannlicher M95, or the Swiss K31. I've heard great things about the K31 in terms of accuracy, surplus 7.5mm rounds aren't too hard to find. Plus it has a unique 6 round magazine, and loads via those nifty stripper clips that cover most of the round. However, I've heard that sometimes the stocks are bad, and they are a bit pricier than the M95, although by no means expensive. The M95 on the other hand is dirt cheap, not much more than a nugget for a carbine (more for a full rifle), and feeds from en bloc clips, which is also quite cool. Of course accuracy will be worse for carbines (partially due to its shorter length), but otherwise I don't know much about the quality of them. The main downside is that finding 8x56R is a major pain in the ass, as well as being expensive. Thoughts?[/QUOTE] If you're in Canada you can find plenty of Ross rifles at gun shows, but they go for $1000. If you're in the US I doubt anyone knows or cares about the Ross, so good luck finding one, and if you do, the owner is likely to charge out the ass for it. Get the K31, that has an almost unparalleled reputation for accuracy for that time.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34926107]I guess I'll have to do so if I want to use open sights. [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] Just found this site that sells TRIJICON and EOTech sights however. Around $2000 for ACOGs and just about $730 for EOTech 512s. I want a 512 for the Ruger I'm getting.. takes AA batteries, is perfect for plinking at 10-50 metres, no magnification and unlimited eye relief.[/QUOTE] Wow. That's seriously about double what they go for here in the States.
I'm having fun piecing together extra stuff for my nugget, and so far I've been staying safely away from the "bubba" zone. Here's what I have so far: [url]http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/firefield-reproduction-35x-mosin-nagant-svt-40-rifle-scope.aspx?a=910189[/url] [url]http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/ncstar-uni-barrel-bipod-matte-black.aspx?a=408022[/url] Is tapping the barrel something I could do myself, or would it be better to have a gunsmith do it? I have access to all of the proper tools, but not necessarily the experience.
If I put some kind of bipod, a rubber butt bad, and a shell sleeve on my Nugget, would that be too bubba or anything? I mean, everything can easily come off and also adds to performance.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Mosin-Nagant-Rubber-Recoil-Butt/dp/B001HIT1UO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330543385&sr=8-2[/url] [url]http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Company-Buttstock-Cartridge-Holder/dp/B000LC655Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1330543385&sr=8-4[/url] Then somehow get a bipod on it.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34929884]And you're gonna tap the barrel? Don't you mean drilling and tapping the receiver? [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] I don't see any problem with either of those, to be honest They're all very helpful and won't permanently alter it[/QUOTE] Receiver, right, sorry. And yeah, how much do you think a gunsmith would charge for a service like that? Sounds decently simple for a professional.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34930326]Not too much I assume, considering he onlyhas to drill a couple of holes, tap them and cut a bit of the stock off. I'd call some local gunsmiths and ask them what they'd charge.[/QUOTE] Awesome, thanks for the info!
The EOTech 512s are nice in that they use AA batteries, but their battery life isn't that great. Even when the optic is turned off, it still drains the battery for some reason. I'd recommend using Lithium batteries only, so they don't leak all over the inside of the housing.
When I get an AK, I'm gonna put a CETME foregrip on it. Because I can.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34932229]Thanks for the advice. I'll probably pop the battery compartment a bit out when I'm not using it so they don't run.[/QUOTE] That's a good idea. Or just stick some wax paper or something between the batteries and the contacts on the housing.
[QUOTE=Neat!;34932859]When I get an AK, I'm gonna put a CETME foregrip on it. Because I can.[/QUOTE] [t]http://i.imgur.com/BHeAx.jpg[/t] Wouldn't look that bad. Maybe one could just try to shorten it a little...
Naw man, keep it long. Looks boss.
This has been a very helpful page.
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