• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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Just woke up after a nice 14 hours of sleep. My dad either bought an AR-15 today, or is buying one tomorrow :D
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35278468]haven't called them[/QUOTE] I tried calling'em but I got that the number was out of service.
So upon reading some internet forums I discovered that it is possible to get a M95/30 to feed and fire both the 7.62x54r and the 45-70. Now it would require a re-barreling but, (apparently) the clips and action need not be adjusted... so any thoughts... remember that this is all hypothetical on my part and I'm simply looking at it academically.
Makes some theoretical sense. Cartridge length is almost the same (off by half a millimetre) and base diameter is an even closer match. However, the Mosin round is overall longer, the bullet itself makes up a larger percentage of the length, and has a bottleneck. [editline]25th March 2012[/editline] nevermind, I am slow :c
Oh so now hes getting a 1911 in .45 instead of an ar15 lol
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35280145]m91/30 not m95/30 the action does need to be reworked a bit. [url=http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/05/25/converting-a-mosin-nagant-to-45-70/]here[/url][/QUOTE] Steyr M95/30 [thumb]http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/9/92/SteyrM95Short.jpg/475px-SteyrM95Short.jpg[/thumb] It fires the 8x56r and I have heard it can also fire 7.62x54r... with modification. Please remember to read the thread before you post. Thank you.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35280989]please remember to keep in mind that there's a multitude of posts regarding nuggets on this page so i automatically assumed you were talking about the m91/30 thank you[/QUOTE] Sorry bout that... I'm just a tad irked is all...
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48521896/L1010704.JPG[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48521896/L1010705.JPG[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48521896/L1010703.JPG[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48521896/L1010702.JPG[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/48521896/L1010687.JPG[/img_thumb] My lithgow 1941 SMLE enfield I fucking love this thing. Also loving the detachable magazine for those range nazis who get you to take the magazine out of your rifle. But yeah as you can see, lower stock is perfect, upper handguard is fucked. edit: Really hoping that garand is a repro and not a war time production.. [editline]25th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35273906]Here's a Mauser K98kF1 and Mosin Nagant M44 I've refinished with SCHERELL's Schaftol Extra Dunkel [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22107915/Die%20waffen/mnm44%20og%20k98kf1.JPG[/t][/QUOTE] I WANT
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35280145][url=http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/05/25/converting-a-mosin-nagant-to-45-70/]here[/url][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n3xtCyMDBw[/media] Sweet Chaos gods, this seems marvelous on all fronts. But thinking about it, has anyone tried to make a bolt-action in something insane like .500S&W? I suppose the greater control over it and the greater muzzle velocity would produce hilariously destructive results.
That M1... I think I died a little inside :(
[QUOTE=massn7;35281543]That M1... I think I died a little inside :([/QUOTE] We can rebuild it... we have the technology.
So, I know the Mosin-Nagant uses a 5 round clip. I'm just curious about this I'm in no way really serious about it or find it necessary. Is it possible to get an 10 round clip for a Mosin?
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35282012]nope you could make one out of sheet metal though? just bend it with a normal metal bender or something[/QUOTE] It would look kinda weird but... I suppose, if done right, it can be cool (or at least cooler than a tactical stock and a rail with flash light and other bullshit.)
imma make a 300 round triple-drum magazine for my mosin out of some barrels and tape
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35282167]are we talking about the magazine or the clips?? [editline]25th March 2012[/editline] if anything, i'd love a mosin lower that used SVD mags[/QUOTE] I think we are talking about the mags... but now I don't know...
Yeah, I think he's referring to the magazine. Otherwise, attempting to load a 5rd mag using a 10rd clip would be an awkward sight. [img]http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mosin-nagant-trench-magazine-extended.jpg[/img] And yes, high-cap magazines exist out there, somewhere.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35282256]i was talking about the stripper clips dunno what op was saying?[/QUOTE] Yeah I was talking about the clips too. I didn't think Mosin's used magazines? I thought it was just the clip. [editline]24th March 2012[/editline] Oh well I guess the above proves me wrong. Derp. I thought Mosin Nagants just used a clip.
Right. Internal magazine fed with a clip. What I'm not sure of, because I've seen both done, do you load all 5 rounds into the Mosin in one go or do you just like clip the clip in and it loads the new round? Nevermind I don't even know what I was asking anymore.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35282879]Right. Internal magazine fed with a clip. What I'm not sure of, because I've seen both done, do you load all 5 rounds into the Mosin in one go or do you just like clip the clip in and it loads the new round? Nevermind I don't even know what I was asking anymore.[/QUOTE] 5 rounds go in, on a stripper clip or not, you then discard the stripper clip, and you close the bolt and you are good to fire.
i was kinda curious about that too, i've never even seen a stripper clip irl so how the fuck do you load it, and how is it faster/preferable to hand loading?
I think you latch the stripper clip onto the opening of the feed and just push the rounds in but I'm not 100% sure. I'll probably just hand load the thing. I find that therapeutic.
(On a tangent but him talking about american made parts for Russian guns reminded me) Sliding stocks are legal, right? Or rather, the modification they make on civilian AR's is. Because the AR is still semi auto, it isn't breaking the law correct? When I get some money I plan on getting an AK-47 and a sliding stock for it. The concept of it just amazes me.
Slide stocks are a waste of money imo. They're like 300-400 dollars for a basic shitty looking stock. Then you're going to blow though ammo like no ones business. Also have fun finding a range that allows full-auto fire. Most don't allow more then 2 bullets per second. So double taps and that is it.
I'd just paint it black or something. It's less about wanting full auto and more about burst fire. I am entirely convinced something will happen this year so I am getting ready for it. And if not well I still have some awesome firearms.
Besides it's not about the looks. It's 300-400 because it's turning a civilian AR into an almost military grade fully automatic assault rifle. Otherwise you'd be looking at a full retrofit of the rifle to get it to fire fully automatic again and then it would be breaking the law :v: [editline]24th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35283343]they are already black????[/QUOTE] Depends on where you get it. A friend of mine has a sliding stock on his AR15 and it's like this weird grey-blue camo colour. It's ugly as fuck.
AR-15s on the civilian market were not "fitted" to fire semi-only, they were manufactured semi-only, you can't "retrofit" it to fire automatic "again," as it never fired automatic in the first place. It is still illegal, though, to make it automatic.
I was concerned more with AK-47's, not AR-15s. But you know what I mean either way. To change the mechanisms in the firearm to make it an automatic. But is it illegal to put a sliding stock on it? Since the weapon is still semi automatic you're just using it's recoil to make it fully automatic :v:
In most states, it's perfectly legal, but apparently it's hard to use. Some States (like California AFAIK) have banned it, though, so check your local, state, and range laws and/or regulations before making the purchase.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35283350]Besides it's not about the looks. It's 300-400 because it's turning a civilian AR into an almost military grade fully automatic assault rifle. Otherwise you'd be looking at a full retrofit of the rifle to get it to fire fully automatic again and then it would be breaking the law :v: [editline]24th March 2012[/editline] Depends on where you get it. A friend of mine has a sliding stock on his AR15 and it's like this weird grey-blue camo colour. It's ugly as fuck.[/QUOTE] That isn't how it works, a ar will always be semi-auto. Putting a slide fire stock just manipulates the trigger faster giving you the perception of full-auto or burst fire. Plus most AR15s are build with parts that have tolerances for semi-automatic only. Surely using one will damage the gun or wear it down faster seeing as it was not designed for that type of use. Each to their own I guess. I just think it is a huge waste of money, most ranges don't allow them or want them. They cause more problems at the range then anything (unless it is a range with full-auto type weapons). I just don't find it fun dumping 30 rounds in to a target in a few seconds then going and seeing it filled with holes. I rather take precision shots, challenge myself at different ranges and target sizes and work on my pistol/rifle stance.
Guys, I'm just wondering (seeing as I'm not [I]too[/I] experienced myself) What's best, 9mm or .45ACP?
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