• Firearms VI - Mosin McNuggets and Tokarev Tartare
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[QUOTE=MR-X;35351791]Went and did some simulations with sim-glocks (They're like real glocks, the bullets are almost the same but fire at a lower FPS and shoot plastic dye tips) with the police today. Took the role as a officer entering a building with multiple hostiles armed with guns, managed to apprehend one of them. I took a hit myself non-lethal so i kept going, shot (killed) the other suspect. Got to apply a lot of my skills I learned from corrections to the test again, love being pointman. It was a ton of fun, did it in different conditions, by far minimal lighting and clearing rooms with just a handgun and flashlight was the best. Really want to apply for SWAT once I get in to a department again and do a few years of service. [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] [IMG]http://gastatic.com/UserImages/3512/931526734/wm_920127.jpg[/IMG] This is what they look like. And the ammo [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/9mm_blue_simunition_with_modified_m9_pistol.jpg/548px-9mm_blue_simunition_with_modified_m9_pistol.jpg[/IMG] Oh lord, double post, for double the awesomeness.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a lot of fucking fun [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] That being said I go to pick up my 91-30 and hopefully my M1895 today. I can't wait
Does anyone know anything about Springfield M1903's? interested in buying one, and i know a bit about them but anything to be weary of? also M1 Garand's? any advice?
Yeah i know that, And im looking to eventually get a Mauser too, but supposedly the 1903 was a combination of the best ideas from Mauser, and en field, so one would think it was better when it really was not. Anyway still looking for more info.
The gunshow 2 weekends ago, one dealer was selling a Skorpion...after finally holding one in my hands, I can't get it out of my mind and really want it...
I really want a Vector, if I can't get the real thing at least give me a replica or softair or something so I can look at it and enjoy.
[QUOTE=urundeadmom;35355547]Does anyone know anything about Springfield M1903's? interested in buying one, and i know a bit about them but anything to be weary of? also M1 Garand's? any advice?[/QUOTE] A 1903 is basically a Mauser in a more accessible cartridge. Garand's are awesome! But both are pricey.
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;35356345]A 1903 is basically a Mauser in a more accessible cartridge. Garand's are awesome! But both are pricey.[/QUOTE] Yeah i noticed that, Garand's can sell for upwards of 1000-2000$ i wonder how much originals go for.... anyway I'm a massive ww2 nut, can anyone recommend some really nice firearms to purchase from that time period apart from the Mauser and Nagant? handguns and smg's are in play too, the more the merrier, also if someone could tell me where to buy some of the "rarer" firearms, that would be great.
[QUOTE=Bonde;35353804]We used M16's with 9mm barrels and bolts for those paint rounds for practicing urban combat in the danish army and it was pretty fun, although they malfunctioned [I]a lot.[/I] I guess that regular guns aren't exactly made for firing paint, because often the rounds would fail to load or get stuck in the chamber. At least we learned that storming a small room guarded by a guy with a fully automatic assault rifle causes casualties when you are not allowed to use grenades :V[/QUOTE] I hated those sesims rifles, they were massive pos's. You couldn't aim for shit because of the dumbass mask you had to wear, your rifle jammed all the time, and at the end of the day you've got an hour of cleaning for every 15 minutes of action. [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=urundeadmom;35357330]Yeah i noticed that, Garand's can sell for upwards of 1000-2000$ i wonder how much originals go for.... anyway I'm a massive ww2 nut, can anyone recommend some really nice firearms to purchase from that time period apart from the Mauser and Nagant? handguns and smg's are in play too, the more the merrier, also if someone could tell me where to buy some of the "rarer" firearms, that would be great.[/QUOTE] If you're an American you can get Garands for pretty cheap relatively speaking through the civilian marksmanship program. About $625 for a Springfield armory M1 in good to pretty good shape. [url]http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=urundeadmom;35357330]Yeah i noticed that, Garand's can sell for upwards of 1000-2000$ i wonder how much originals go for.... anyway I'm a massive ww2 nut, can anyone recommend some really nice firearms to purchase from that time period apart from the Mauser and Nagant? handguns and smg's are in play too, the more the merrier, also if someone could tell me where to buy some of the "rarer" firearms, that would be great.[/QUOTE] Japanese Arisakas are nice rifles, mum or not. They run in the $300's as I've seen them. British Enfields are some of the best and can run in the 300's. Also the Austrian Steyr M95/30 is a cool straight pull and then there is the Swiss K31 if we want a Cadillac of straight pulls. Steyr's are the cheapest non nagant at 90 busks a pop (but ammo will be near impossible to find less you reload). The rest are matter of price. I don't know for certain the price of a K31 but they are not too bad. Ammo is a pain for all of these, some more than others. Otherwise it's all mausers and nagants. Almost forgot the Carcano... then again no one remembers the Carcano.
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;35358655]Japanese Arisakas are nice rifles, mum or not. They run in the $300's as I've seen them. British Enfields are some of the best and can run in the 300's. Also the Austrian Steyr M95/30 is a cool straight pull and then there is the Swiss K31 if we want a Cadillac of straight pulls. Steyr's are the cheapest non nagant at 90 busks a pop (but ammo will be near impossible to find less you reload). The rest are matter of price. I don't know for certain the price of a K31 but they are not too bad. Ammo is a pain for all of these, some more than others. Otherwise it's all mausers and nagants. Almost forgot the Carcano... then again no one remembers the Carcano.[/QUOTE] I've got a Steyr, Hornady makes new ammo for it but its expensive as shit. Still fun to shoot. I got an Arisakas not too long ago that still has the mum on it. I need to get a bulge in the barrel fixed first but it should be a good shoot.
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;35358655]Japanese Arisakas are nice rifles, mum or not. They run in the $300's as I've seen them. British Enfields are some of the best and can run in the 300's. Also the Austrian Steyr M95/30 is a cool straight pull and then there is the Swiss K31 if we want a Cadillac of straight pulls. Steyr's are the cheapest non nagant at 90 busks a pop (but ammo will be near impossible to find less you reload). The rest are matter of price. I don't know for certain the price of a K31 but they are not too bad. Ammo is a pain for all of these, some more than others. Otherwise it's all mausers and nagants. Almost forgot the Carcano... then again no one remembers the Carcano.[/QUOTE] We've got an all-matching Arisaka with a mostly intact mum, the aircraft sights, and the monopod. [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] It is a really sweet shooter.
Anyone who designs a bolt action rifle with anti-aircraft sights is insane.
willa finnish mosin stock fit on a mosin of different caliber?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;35358844]I've got a Steyr, Hornady makes new ammo for it but its expensive as shit. Still fun to shoot. [/QUOTE] I've been lusting after one at my local gun shop... but can justify the cost to fire it.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;35359384]do you mean model? barrel profiles and sight bases are different on soviet and finnish models.[/QUOTE] well fuck
[QUOTE=Haywood;35359148]Anyone who designs a bolt action rifle with anti-aircraft sights is insane.[/QUOTE] If you have a whole platoon firing with anti-aircraft sights at an aircraft then there is a good chance to hit/damage/kill the target.
Got back from picking up my Mosin. Got there as 12, spent almost two and a half hours talking to the owner of the store. Really great guy, runs the Orlando Gun Vault in Florida. The thing is bloody well [i]caked[/i] in Cosmoline. He suggested I open the bolt and hang it upside down (Barrel facing down) from the eve of my house and let the sun (Gets very hot in Florida) sweat the cosmoline out of the rifle. A friend of mine suggested soap and water for the metal bits and very low temperature oven trip for the stock. I don't want to put it in the oven. Don't want my house smelling like cooking cosmoline. Any suggestions? Or is the roof trick good?
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;35359587]If you have a whole platoon firing with anti-aircraft sights at an aircraft then there is a good chance to hit/damage/kill the target.[/QUOTE] Not necessarily a platoon... but a company? Fuck yeah it would fuck a low flying aircraft up. [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35359711]Got back from picking up my Mosin. Got there as 12, spent almost two and a half hours talking to the owner of the store. Really great guy, runs the Orlando Gun Vault in Florida. The thing is bloody well [i]caked[/i] in Cosmoline. He suggested I open the bolt and hang it upside down (Barrel facing down) from the eve of my house and let the sun (Gets very hot in Florida) sweat the cosmoline out of the rifle. A friend of mine suggested soap and water for the metal bits and very low temperature oven trip for the stock. I don't want to put it in the oven. Don't want my house smelling like cooking cosmoline. Any suggestions? Or is the roof trick good?[/QUOTE] I just wiped most of it off of mine. Took the bolt apart and cleaned it well, made sure the barrel was clean inside and out. Then I shot it a few times and the heat from that sweated the rest of the stuff out of the wood.
Take the metal out of the stock and douse the metal in brake de-greaser, and take care not to get any on the wood, that shit destroys wood, then clean it thoroughly. The de-greaser will cause the cosmoline to literally drain off the gun, and then you clean what bits get brought to the surface and dry. It'll look almost like the gun instantly became a giant rust bucket, but that brownish-red colour would just be dried cosmoline that didn't drain. As for the stock, if you don't want to be swabbing it down for hours, sweating the cosmo out is probably the best idea. You could sweat the cosmo out of the whole thing, actually. If you have an enclosed shed or garage that could contain the heat (I know my garage absolutely bakes in the summer) it may do a better job of sweating the cosmo out of the gun than just leaving it out.
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35359711]Got back from picking up my Mosin. Got there as 12, spent almost two and a half hours talking to the owner of the store. Really great guy, runs the Orlando Gun Vault in Florida. The thing is bloody well [i]caked[/i] in Cosmoline. He suggested I open the bolt and hang it upside down (Barrel facing down) from the eve of my house and let the sun (Gets very hot in Florida) sweat the cosmoline out of the rifle. A friend of mine suggested soap and water for the metal bits and very low temperature oven trip for the stock. I don't want to put it in the oven. Don't want my house smelling like cooking cosmoline. Any suggestions? Or is the roof trick good?[/QUOTE] Put the stock in a black plastic garbage bag and let it sit in the sun. As for the metal bits, I just used some Hoppes 9 and some elbow grease.
Just recently bought a Czech Mannlicher M95 Carbine. These were built from Austro-Hungarian parts. [t]http://i.imgur.com/7c4VEh.jpg[/t] My friend bought 200 rounds of 8x56r, so he gave me a clip of 1940 dated Bulgarian ammo. [t]http://i.imgur.com/aGQ7Th.jpg[/t] According to my WWII buff friend, it is possible that this was one of the 5000 made in the 1920s by Czechoslovakia. Even if it wasn't part of the 5000 made, its still pretty uncommon to find a Czech M95. [t]http://i.imgur.com/6rFIAh.jpg[/t] As you can see its a straight-pull bolt. [t]http://i.imgur.com/TtCZvh.jpg[/t] Here is my friend's Bulgarian M95 (top) and my Czech M95 (bottom). [t]http://i.imgur.com/Bdrivh.jpg[/t] Here is an up close view of the clip. Nazi stamps are actually more common than Bulgarian stamped clips. [t]http://i.imgur.com/swSD3.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35359711]Got back from picking up my Mosin. Got there as 12, spent almost two and a half hours talking to the owner of the store. Really great guy, runs the Orlando Gun Vault in Florida. The thing is bloody well [i]caked[/i] in Cosmoline. He suggested I open the bolt and hang it upside down (Barrel facing down) from the eve of my house and let the sun (Gets very hot in Florida) sweat the cosmoline out of the rifle. A friend of mine suggested soap and water for the metal bits and very low temperature oven trip for the stock. I don't want to put it in the oven. Don't want my house smelling like cooking cosmoline. Any suggestions? Or is the roof trick good?[/QUOTE] boil the metal bits and leave the stock to bake on the roof
Hopefully going to join the Mosin Nagant club soon, once I get some money gonna get one and throw a wooden thumb-hole stock on it.
Okay so from what I've gotten using hot soapy water is less attractive because you have to reoil the metal after or it rusts. Can I use paint thinner to get he cosmoline off the metal rather than brake shit? Also does anyone have any really good and/or detailed guides for stripping and reassembling a 91-30?
The ULTIMATE goal of this thread should be to get EVERYONE who comments in it a Nagant!
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;35362132]Also does anyone have any really good and/or detailed guides for stripping and reassembling a 91-30?[/QUOTE] [url]http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinDisassembly.htm[/url] This entire site helped me a whole bunch when I first got my M91/30.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;35362989]The ULTIMATE goal of this thread should be to get EVERYONE who comments in it a Nagant![/QUOTE] Well my next rifle I plan to get is a $400 Mosin 91-30 with a 3.5x authentic PU scope if you want to 'get' me that :v: [editline]30th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=MisDiagnosed;35363042][url]http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinDisassembly.htm[/url] This entire site helped me a whole bunch when I first got my M91/30.[/QUOTE] Thanks. Probably going to start soon as soon as I cool off from work.
Okay so I've stripped my mosin down to the following: Stock Handguard Magazine Bolt Receiver/Barrel Assembly I've cleaned out the cosmoline from every nook and cranny of this thing. Pulled apart the magazine and got it all out of there, passed some cloth through the barrel about 5 times and checked it for pitting (Looked good), cleaned all the grease from the bolt, receiver, barrel, etc. All that's left is the stock and handguard. I can't use the oven. Suggestions?
I wonder if sticking the furniture in a closet with a space heater would sweat the cosmoline out, or if I'd just start my house on fire.
That might work. If I had a space heater
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