[QUOTE=Earthen;17467734]i love the fact that americans always forget than canadians burned down the white house in 1812[/QUOTE]
British and 1814.
[QUOTE=Earthen;17467734]i love the fact that americans always forget than canadians burned down the white house in 1812[/QUOTE]
That was the British you dumb fuck.
I don't think there's really any logical staging point for an invasion of the mainland.
[QUOTE=Billiam;17467858]I don't think there's really any logical staging point for an invasion of the mainland.[/QUOTE]
Mexico, Canada, Carribean. All could be used, even if those nations themselves aren't the bulk of the invasion force. Plus, planes these days can travel all across the world, so there's the possibilty of paratroopers and the like making a beach head.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17467233]Canada is pulling out of the mid-east I heard a couple months back because it's military is so weak, that America is the only thing that could stop a possible invasion from anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Our military isn't as weak as many say, we just ran out of tanks :v:
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;17467792]That was the British you dumb fuck.[/QUOTE]
id rather stay stubborn and maintain it was the canadians
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17467233]Canada is pulling out of the mid-east I heard a couple months back because it's military is so weak, that America is the only thing that could stop a possible invasion from anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Weak? Where the hell you get your bullshit from? We're pulling out for the same reason why the US pulled out in Vietnam; public pressure.
Also, 2011 is the pullout date. Then the Americans can have all the fun with the Taliban.
[QUOTE=Wayword;17468631]Our military isn't as weak as many say, we just ran out of tanks :v:[/QUOTE]
Oh? Well, we've been eyeing up British Columbia a lot lately, and if you don't have any tanks....
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[QUOTE=Tac Error;17468669]Weak? Where the hell you get your bullshit from? We're pulling out for the same reason why the US pulled out in Vietnam; public pressure.
Also, 2011 is the pullout date. Then the Americans can have all the fun with the Taliban.[/QUOTE]
We must have more balls than you given that we've had more deaths there and we're still pushing forward.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17468679]Oh? Well, we've been eyeing up British Columbia a lot lately, and if you don't have any tanks....[/QUOTE]
We've got mobile suits now.
Seriously, somebody applaud me for knowing more than the so called History major here
[QUOTE=thisispain;17468787]Seriously, somebody applaud me for knowing more than the so called History major here[/QUOTE]
:golfclap:
Today we discussed how the US was founded on the grounds that the people are meant to rebel against a government that is doing them wrong. To make a long story short, it came down to the fact that the American people have allowed the government to do their own thing for so long that it is now impossible for Americans to successfully overthrow the government due to the fact that our police force and military forces are so large. I am pretty sure that if Americans can't overthrow the government due to military and police forces, an outside force would never be able to occupy the US.
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;17468855]Today we discussed how the US was founded on the grounds that the people are meant to rebel against a government that is doing them wrong. To make a long story short, it came down to the fact that the American people have allowed the government to do their own thing for so long that it is now impossible for Americans to successfully overthrow the government due to the fact that our police force and military forces are so large. I am pretty sure that if Americans can't overthrow the government due to military and police forces, an outside force would never be able to occupy the US.[/QUOTE]
You are comparing an internal militia to external armies
i'd also like to point out that people are saying all of America would join as a militia, they wouldn't. Only a small population would resist.
The EU doesn't need to invade.
We're an economic superpower, we'll sell things and get rich from them.
[QUOTE=ArmyKid93;17468823]:golfclap:[/QUOTE]
yeah
i'm stroking myself to that
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17468679]Oh? Well, we've been eyeing up British Columbia a lot lately, and if you don't have any tanks....
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We must have more balls than you given that we've had more deaths there and we're still pushing forward.[/QUOTE]
Pushing forward? How exactly are you 'pushing forward' in Afghanistan? Please, I'd love to hear this.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;17468888]Pushing forward? How exactly are you 'pushing forward' in Afghanistan? Please, I'd love to hear this.[/QUOTE]
We are peacekeeping in Afghanistan so we are pushing nowhere...
[QUOTE=Kondor;17468904]We are peacekeeping in Afghanistan so we are pushing nowhere...[/QUOTE]
Right..
Odd, I thought it was a war on terror, not a peacekeeping mission. If so, you're not doing a very good job.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;17468926]Right..
Odd, I thought it was a war on terror, not a peacekeeping mission. If so, you're not doing a very good job.[/QUOTE]
War on terror = fighing Al Quaeda =/= fighting Afghanistan
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;17468926]Right..
Odd, I thought it was a war on terror, not a peacekeeping mission. If so, you're not doing a very good job.[/QUOTE]
We're keeping the peace by warring against those who would make war. :downs:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17469586]We're keeping the peace by warring against those who would make war. :downs:[/QUOTE]
There are civilian bombings/shootings near enough every day by the Taliban. I wouldn't be so quick to call that "Keeping the peace".
[QUOTE=Crypto;17454127]Alright I was sitting in class today and my one of my teachers that teaches military tactics and what not. He gave us a sheet telling us if Occupation of a country is possible in now days terms. Yes it is possible in smaller country that do not have the military assets to defend it's self. but then he said it could be possible for someone to occupy USA (It could happen) But what I am thinking how is that possible now days? Most people in America have weapons or some of defense in someway the public would not sit around and let enemy troops try to take positions. The public (Not all but the ones that do have the balls) would be a moderate fighting force among a nation that allows weapons for the public. I just don't think it is possible (Unless you get nuked or something that kills the public) but now days war terms would be able to fully occupy a Super Power nation. China is a good example as well has they have a very large public so would be Russia.
What are you're thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]
Your grammar is horrific. Those are my thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Doug52392;17454287]Yes, it is possible for an enemy military force to invade the United States.
They can't just go into the United States, guns blazing, and declare the US now under their control though. They'd probably need to infiltrate the United States government. Get someone working with them in a high level of government, preferably one where they could desensitize Americans to the idea of an invasion, and make them willing to accept it. Make them believe that the government are still in control, but they're just letting enemy military forces in to "protect" America.
Invasion by justification, I call it. If people believe it's for the better, why would they resist? If you look at things like the H1N1 "swine flu" vaccine, for instance, you see the same trend. Someone uses the media to make people believe the swine flu is like, deadlier than a nuclear bomb, and suddenly EVERYONE wants a vaccine. No one bothers to question weather or not the swine flu is really dangerous or not. They just practice obedience.
Anthrax? The "deadly" biological weapon that can be hidden in an innocent-looking envelope? In 2001, after the Capital building and half of Pennsylvania Ave. had to be evacuated due to an anthrax scare, Americans believed that suddenly, TERRORISTS WOULD MAIL US DEATH!!!! I remember being scared shitless of mail when this shit happened.
And how many did anthrax actually kill? What was it, like, 7?
So invading America would be just like that. After all, if the media can convince Americans that the swine flu is a pandemic that will wipe out the whole damn world (except Madagascar), whats to stop them from justifying the hostel takeover of America? And people WILL listen to what they hear in the media.
WHAT THE FUCK STOP RATING ME BOX SERIOUSLY THIS IS A GOOD THEORY>[/QUOTE]
This is how I'll do it when I take over the world.
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;17469774]There are civilian bombings/shootings near enough every day by the Taliban. I wouldn't be so quick to call that "Keeping the peace".[/QUOTE]
You obviously don't understand the concept of sarcasm.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17469586]We're keeping the peace by warring against those who would make war. :downs:[/QUOTE]
We are keeping the peace by warring against those who terrorise who would overthrow their country's government who would then make war under the Al Queda - Afghani rule
[QUOTE=thisispain;17468787]Seriously, somebody applaud me for knowing more than the so called History major here[/QUOTE]
:bravo:
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;17465469]Would be absolutely hilarious to see such a country try and wage war.[/QUOTE]
It could work to a certain extent but end up failing horribly.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17468679]
We must have more balls than you given that we've had more deaths there and we're still pushing forward.[/QUOTE]
Per capita, Canada has lost more soldiers then any other ISAF allied country.
"Canadian population: 33,000,000, Death toll: 125 = 1 in 264,000 people
UK population: 61,000,000, Death toll: 188 = 1 in 324,500 people
US population: 304,000,000, Death toll: 750 = 1 in 405,000 people"
[url]http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/five-reasons-why-half-of-britain-wants-troops-out-of-afghanistan/[/url]
Edit: Lol at those thinking the USA could actually be conquered this day and age. It would take the combined efforts of the world and even then they'd just nuke us.
Alright Kondor, you sit your stupid ass down and listen to me. I think Lankist proved his point pages ago, but you seem dead set in your logistic fail-thinking.
How would you feed 300 million soldiers? That's just slightly less than the whole US population. For the average US citizen, that's just over one pound of food per day. [B]300 million pounds per day[/B] is an unfathomable amount to ship each day.
How much ammo will all the soldiers need? A couple hundred rounds each, I'm guessing. Assuming 7.62 x 39 ammunition is used, 300 rounds of ammunition per soldier would weigh around 5 pounds. The supposed 300 million soldiers would need [B]1.5 billion rounds of ammunition.[/B]
What about small arms? The handguns, rifles and grenades all add up to about 15 pounds per soldier. That's [B]4.5 billion pounds of weaponry.[/B]
I could go on and on.
It. Can. Not. Be. Done.
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[QUOTE={FP}ST;17473237]Alright Kondor, you sit your stupid ass down and listen to me. I think Lankist proved his point pages ago, but you seem dead set in your logistic fail-thinking.
How would you feed 300 million soldiers? That's just slightly less than the whole US population. For the average US citizen, that's just over one pound of food per day. [B]300 million pounds per day[/B] is an unfathomable amount to ship each day.
How much ammo will all the soldiers need? A couple hundred rounds each, I'm guessing. Assuming 7.62 x 39 ammunition is used, 300 rounds of ammunition per soldier would weigh around 5 pounds. The supposed 300 million soldiers would need [B]1.5 billion rounds of ammunition.[/B]
What about small arms? The handguns, rifles and grenades all add up to about 15 pounds per soldier. That's [B]4.5 billion pounds of weaponry.[/B]
I could go on and on.
It. Can. Not. Be. Done.
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Plus delivering 300 million troops effectively will be a rather large hassle.
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