• Occupation of the United States
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I said I could go on. :v:
[QUOTE=StukovCA;17473203]Per capita, Canada has lost more soldiers then any other ISAF allied country. "Canadian population: 33,000,000, Death toll: 125 = 1 in 264,000 people UK population: 61,000,000, Death toll: 188 = 1 in 324,500 people US population: 304,000,000, Death toll: 750 = 1 in 405,000 people" [url]http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/five-reasons-why-half-of-britain-wants-troops-out-of-afghanistan/[/url] Edit: Lol at those thinking the USA could actually be conquered this day and age. It would take the combined efforts of the world and even then they'd just nuke us.[/QUOTE] What does per capita have to do with anything?
The invading nation would nuke us, adding fear to our civillian population, and would threaten to nuke us again if we kept resisting. Eventually the civillian population would lay down their arms, and become slaves. The women would work corners, the men would be forced to farm gold in china's world of warcraft, and every corner store would sell the mightiest of fried chicken
[QUOTE=thisispain;17468787]Seriously, somebody applaud me for knowing more than the so called History major here[/QUOTE] He's an Arts major, what did you expect? Him to know something you couldn't pull off of Wikipedia?
[QUOTE=Earthen;17467734]i love the fact that americans always forget than canadians burned down the white house in 1812[/QUOTE] I love the fact that the canadians always forget than (?) Americans burnt down the parliament buildings in 1813. By the way, it was burnt in 1814.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17474429]What does per capita have to do with anything?[/QUOTE] If you factor in per capita, Canada has proportionally sacrificed the most in Afghanistan. [QUOTE=lulzbocks;17474979]I love the fact that the canadians always forget than (?) Americans burnt down the parliament buildings in 1813. By the way, it was burnt in 1814.[/QUOTE] Canada didn't exist as a nation until 1867, so basically you should be laughing at the British.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;17454183]And yet, millions of illegal immigrants invade and occupy on a regular basis.[/QUOTE] Lol, the unofficial invasion of Mexico and all those other Central American countries. :v: *Joke*
[QUOTE=StukovCA;17474687]He's an Arts major, what did you expect? Him to know something you couldn't pull off of Wikipedia?[/QUOTE] I didn't pull things off of wikipedia though. I got like straight high grades and shit on history
It just wouldn't work. the amount of resistance from Guerrilla/Partisan/Freedom Fighter groups [b]alone[/b] could hold any force that tried to occupy the Continental US with minimal aid from our military. I'm not being bias, the world may see us as stupid fat sloppy Americans but when push comes to shove, we push. I mean we can get guns fairly easily in this country (it'll be even easier in a time of war), our patriotic zeal that we're so know for will make recruiting almost comically simple and any dipshit can manufacture Molotov's and even explosives with a little instruction and they can even spy on the enemy (reporting troop concentration and movement). so *poof*, an army of well armed partisan fighters ready to kick ass and take names for the Stars and Stripes. (it's like Iraq and Afghanistan but with 1000x more manpower and materiel) and that's not even adding the military in to the picture.
[quote]the world may see us as stupid fat sloppy Americans but when push comes to shove, we push.[/quote] don't you mean when push comes to shove we stand firmly in place i mean can a fat person really push when his stomach protrudes his arms?
[QUOTE=thisispain;17476662]don't you mean when push comes to shove we stand firmly in place i mean can a fat person really push when his stomach protrudes his arms?[/QUOTE] well we could simply fall forward squashing our advisory with our mighty girth!
[QUOTE=goon165;17476789]well we could simply fall forward squashing our advisory with our mighty girth![/QUOTE] like a sexual thing?
possibly, ... :q:
I thought this thread died. [editline]02:58AM[/editline] apparently so
[QUOTE=borisvdb;17472476]It could work to a certain extent but end up failing horribly.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't work at all. You'd have all the deathmatchers charging into gunfire, weapon emplacement crews setting up all the good heavy guns in useless places, snipers would be camping some alleyway in the middle of nowhere, vehicle crews would be too busy demolishing every building they see, even if it's their own (that's assuming they figure out how to operate the bloody things) and everybody else too scared shitless to move forward because they'd remember they won't respawn.
[QUOTE=Carnotite;17454182]We have enough issues running ourselves, I don't think another country could do it, let alone, want to. :v:[/QUOTE] Haha so true. But really, it would never happen, Americans would never let it happen. There would be such a revolt it would be almost impossible to take over the us unless it were nuked or the majority of the population killed/enslaved. No way the majority of Americans would accept another country running them.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;17474993]If you factor in per capita, Canada has proportionally sacrificed the most in Afghanistan. Canada didn't exist as a nation until 1867, so basically you should be laughing at the British.[/QUOTE] Whether you lost more proportionally is irrelevant. We've lost more soldiers in total. Thus more families are mourning in the US than in Canada.
[QUOTE=LOLturtle;17465613]That's not racism.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Damn mexians everywhere![/QUOTE] That's not racism huh?
The problem, as has likely been stated a number of times by now would be the partisan resistance. Everyone who says "Hurr theyr just redneks who ani army can sweep awai in, liek, 45 secunds." can go jump off a cliff. There are 70 million gun owners in this country that we KNOW of. If a relatively small fraction of those people felt the need to fight back they could raise a substantial amount of hell. Of course they wouldn't challenge an organized military force head-on. It would be an insurgency. I don't think you could compare it to Iraq either since the number of insurgents would be very high and because many gun owners have prior military training it is likely they would be more competent too. This wouldn't stop them from taking over, but it would make occupation a total nightmare.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;17473237]Alright Kondor, you sit your stupid ass down and listen to me. I think Lankist proved his point pages ago, but you seem dead set in your logistic fail-thinking. How would you feed 300 million soldiers? That's just slightly less than the whole US population. For the average US citizen, that's just over one pound of food per day. [B]300 million pounds per day[/B] is an unfathomable amount to ship each day. How much ammo will all the soldiers need? A couple hundred rounds each, I'm guessing. Assuming 7.62 x 39 ammunition is used, 300 rounds of ammunition per soldier would weigh around 5 pounds. The supposed 300 million soldiers would need [B]1.5 billion rounds of ammunition.[/B] What about small arms? The handguns, rifles and grenades all add up to about 15 pounds per soldier. That's [B]4.5 billion pounds of weaponry.[/B] I could go on and on. It. Can. Not. Be. Done. [img]http://i33.tinypic.com/2laeuio.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Chill out, an invasion of 2 million would be sufficient to take out the US Army [editline]04:20PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;17476157]I didn't pull things off of wikipedia though. I got like straight high grades and shit on history[/QUOTE] Who gives a fuck if you majored in history, this is a what if situation so it hasn't actually happened
[QUOTE=ghostofme;17479568]That's not racism huh?[/QUOTE] Mexicans are a nationality, not a race.
[QUOTE=Kondor;17479736]Chill out, an invasion of 2 million would be sufficient to take out the US Army[/QUOTE] I don't think you're capable of grasping how ridiculous an invasion force in the millions really is. [editline]11:40AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17479777]Mexicans are a nationality, not a race.[/QUOTE] backpedalbackpedalbackpedal
[QUOTE=Lankist;17479970]I don't think you're capable of grasping how ridiculous an invasion force in the millions really is.[/QUOTE] NOT ON THE SAME DAY I said that already, over time an invasion force of 2 million is totally plausible
[QUOTE=Kondor;17480003]NOT ON THE SAME DAY I said that already, over time an invasion force of 2 million is totally plausible[/QUOTE] No it isn't.
[quote=Kondor's post so far]words[/quote] xD
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;17474979]I love the fact that the canadians always forget than (?) Americans burnt down the parliament buildings in 1813. By the way, it was burnt in 1814.[/QUOTE] i love the fact that Canadians have better education than America
It's just simply not possible. At best you could capture military bases and some of the most important cities, but only after pounding them with artillery and bombers for days, and even that way, you'll have to face serious losses of manpower and supplies to insurgency groups, military and reservists... and that situation would last until you withdraw your troops. The "best" option (In fact, it would be the worst, but the only one feasible) would be nuking everything, eventhough that would lead the world to a nuclear war, and as a consequence, to its complete obliteration.
[QUOTE=Tidusete;17480266]It's just simply not possible. At best you could capture military bases and some of the most important cities, but only after pounding them with artillery and bombers for days, and even that way, you'll have to face serious losses of manpower and supplies to insurgency groups, military and reservists... and that situation would last until you withdraw your troops. The "best" option (In fact, it would be the worst, but the only one feasible) would be nuking everything, eventhough that would lead the world to a nuclear war, and as a consequence, to its complete obliteration.[/QUOTE] No. Biological warfare. Virus bomb motherfuckers.
[QUOTE=Kondor;17480003]NOT ON THE SAME DAY I said that already, over time an invasion force of 2 million is totally plausible[/QUOTE] Stop trying to convince them that an invasion is possible, they will never admit it even if they believe that it is. Leave them to their dream of invincibility and omnipotence, they'll realize that it ain't so one day (if said dream will be smashed or if it will just decay and fall apart over time I don't know, but it won't last forever).
Technically, no. I personally wondering if a invasion of the UK would be plausible.
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