[QUOTE={FP}ST;17499759]~93 million vs. any enemy army, surely numbering ~1,000,000 or less
Guess who wins
Unless you include nukes.[/QUOTE]
The army, mostly because those 93 millions will rapidly become barely 93, why? The reason for which a militia/resistance is successful is because it is difficult to locate, as soon as it becomes something huge like 93 million people they would get the shit bombed out of them by an airforce.
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They were only successful from us bailing them out because [i]they're french.[/i] I mean, they were over run in a month. You expect their resistance to be any good?[/QUOTE]
They were over run in a month because the german army had superior generals,men, and new war strategies the world has not seen and was not prepared for. Germany had the blitzkrieg, which they tested in spain, the french were still thinking ww1 tactics, spread out the troops/tanks, while Germany had their military closer together and breaking through parts of the enemies line. It worked very well for the German Army and we can all thank Erich von Manstein, the greatest general in the world for it.
[QUOTE=CSargeP;17498612]You cannot compare the French resistance to a hypothetical American resistance becuase the French didn't have the gun owner base America does. They had to have shitty little one shot pistols be flown in becuase that's all they could get.
So imagine the French resistance, but many times more effective. I can see that kind of resistance making an occupation not worth it and forcing the occupational force to pull out.[/QUOTE]
you seem to forget my point, the Poles had armed resistance, they still lost
A Chinese army could invade America from two fronts and systematically wipe out all Americans, thus taking down any resistance
let's not forget the guerrilla warfare in world war two is very different then it is today, not to mention more effective.
[QUOTE=Conscript;17501447]let's not forget the guerrilla warfare in world war two is very different then it is today, not to mention less effective.[/QUOTE]
That's because today's guerrilla soldiers are just extremist versus civilian leaders who have experience.
[QUOTE=Linelor;17493567]War is in our blood. We were born from it, we have lived by it, and we will probably someday die by it. Let me tell you something though, we're god damn good at it and so as is[/QUOTE]
Haha explain America's poor performance in nearly every war it ever was dragged to partake in.
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American Killer Hero Cadre Pyle 'ere
[QUOTE=5150Luke;17500688]They were over run in a month because the german army had superior generals,men, and new war strategies the world has not seen and was not prepared for. Germany had the blitzkrieg, which they tested in spain, the french were still thinking ww1 tactics, spread out the troops/tanks, while Germany had their military closer together and breaking through parts of the enemies line. It worked very well for the German Army and we can all thank Erich von Manstein, the greatest general in the world for it.[/QUOTE]
That is total bullshit. The time between when the war began and when the Germans actually invaded spands nearly six months. France and England formally declared war on Germany when they invaded Poland. There was a time period in between called "The Phony War", in which France, England, and Germany were formally at war but did not attack each other at all, as if they were in complete harmony. France had plenty of time to prepare, and they failed miserably.
America feels untouchable and very far from all the conflicts and wars caused by their country. Then 11th September happens, and they wonder why would terrorists attack such a inoccent, democratic and peace loving country? Guess why. Just because your country is fighting in the other side of the world, it doesnt mean the others in the other side of the world cant fight back. And they will. For generations, the countrys which were attacked will not forget what the americans have done.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;17502142]America feels untouchable and very far from all the conflicts and wars caused by their country. Then 11th September happens, and they wonder why would terrorists attack such a inoccent, democratic and peace loving country? Guess why. Just because your country is fighting in the other side of the world, it doesnt mean the others in the other side of the world cant fight back. And they will. For generations, the countrys which were attacked will not forget what the americans have done.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the Germans of today hate our guts for destroying the Nazis. :patriot:
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And the French for liberating them from the Nazis.
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And South Korea for keeping the reds from taking over.
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And the people of the Philipines for liberating them from the Japanese.
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I'm sure Kuwait hates us with all their soul for liberating them from Iraq.
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God Bless the US :fsmug:
[QUOTE=borisvdb;17501532]That's because today's guerrilla soldiers are just extremist versus civilian leaders who have experience.[/QUOTE]
or because small arms are much more powerful then they were back then
I remember South Vietnamese Government called the Americans "Cowards and traitors" when the remaining soldiers fled with tails between the their legs from the advancing NV armour divisions.
:v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502175]I'm sure the Germans of today hate our guts for destroying the Nazis. :patriot:
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And the French for liberating them from the Nazis.
God Bless the US :fsmug:[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the Germans hate your guts for taking away major areas of land afterwards
And the French for pushing them out of their American colonies
[QUOTE=Kondor;17502382]I'm sure the Germans hate your guts for taking away major areas of land afterwards
And the French for pushing them out of their American colonies[/QUOTE]
There are no US owned territories that were once German in Europe, what the hell are you talking about?
And we never pushed France out of America. The British pushed them out of Canada, and we legally bought the Louisiana Territory.
You are a dumbass. Have a nice day!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502419]There are no US owned territories that were once German in Europe, what the hell are you talking about?
And we never pushed France out of America. The British pushed them out of Canada, and we legally bought the Louisiana Territory.
You are a dumbass. Have a nice day![/QUOTE]
Oh my fucking god, no shit they didn't annex the land, the GAVE IT TO THE FRENCH.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17480020]No it isn't.[/QUOTE]
Stalingrad had one million men each side with the counter offensive.
[QUOTE=noahh;17502605]Stalingrad had one million men each side with the counter offensive.[/QUOTE]
This isn't World War Two.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502175]And the people of the Philipines for liberating them from the Japanese.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget that the Americans did in 1913 what exactly the Japanese did in WWII - adding the Philippines into their empire and turning it into a puppet state (Philippine Commonwealth)
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17501825]That is total bullshit. The time between when the war began and when the Germans actually invaded spands nearly six months. France and England formally declared war on Germany when they invaded Poland. There was a time period in between called "The Phony War", in which France, England, and Germany were formally at war but did not attack each other at all, as if they were in complete harmony. France had plenty of time to prepare, and they failed miserably.[/QUOTE]
You didn't even try to refute my point that germany had superior tactics, that france was still in the mindset of world war 1 tactics, spreading your military over a big area. France prepared for a army that was spread out, for trench warfare like ww1,which didn't happen. The time period between when germany actually invaded is irrelevent to this. It doesn't matter if they prepared for years(and they did), germany had better,new tactics and better generals.
tl;dr trench warfare is inferior to blitzkrieg.
[url]http://www.2worldwar2.com/blitzkrieg.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Tac Error;17502654]Don't forget that the Americans did in 1913 what exactly the Japanese did in WWII - adding the Philippines into their empire and turning it into a puppet state (Philippine Commonwealth)[/QUOTE]
We did not turn the Philipines into a "puppet state", and we gave them full independence after WWII, something the Japanese would not of done, nor the Spaniards we took it from. With out the US, they would not be an independent, free nation.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502796]We did not turn the Philipines into a "puppet state", and we gave them full independence after WWII, something the Japanese would not of done, nor the Spaniards we took it from. With out the US, they would not be an independent, free nation.[/QUOTE]
But you can't deny the fact that the Americans first did it for for imperialistic reasons.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502796]We did not turn the Philipines into a "puppet state", and we gave them full independence after WWII, something the Japanese would not of done, nor the Spaniards we took it from. With out the US, they would not be an independent, free nation.[/QUOTE]
are you kidding
after the spanish-american war, both cuba and the phillipines were practical colonies. cuba was turned into a tourist sandbox and the phillipines became our economic puppet
[quote]We did not turn the Philipines into a "puppet state", and we gave them full independence after WWII[/quote]
*spanish-american war was in 1898. 40 years eh?
[QUOTE=Tac Error;17502861]But you can't deny the fact that the Americans first did it for for imperialistic reasons.[/QUOTE]
It's imperialistic to take over a territory, then set it free on it's own? My world has been flipped upside down...
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17502796][B]We did not turn the Philipines into a "puppet state"[/B], [B]and we gave them full independence after WWII[/B], something the Japanese would not of done, nor the Spaniards we took it from. With out the US, they would not be an independent, free nation.[/QUOTE]
That sentence is contradictory
Still waiting for you to refute my point scorpious.
or say you're wrong.
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ITT: Emperor Scorpious doesn't know shit about the difference between ww2 and ww1
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This is how it'll go down.
no it's not
why the fuck would California be under chinese control
and why is the east bay part of europe
we don't want that shit hole that's why we sold it to you for a dollar
[QUOTE=thisispain;17505229]no it's not
why the fuck would California be under chinese control
and why is the east bay part of europe
we don't want that shit hole that's why we sold it to you for a dollar[/QUOTE]
Yes it will
because Russian scientists predicted it.
Well, it depends. I am not an expert, but I think that technically, if the U.S. were to be invaded by a foreign power (which I highly doubt, since the American war machine is too big) it would be an illegal invasion (a declaration of war would make the war legal, not the invasion), but it would also be illegal for any non-military personnel to attack the invading forces if said invading forces respect the U.N. charter on human rights. But is there anything like a fair war?
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[QUOTE=SAS0206;17505218][img]http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/P1-AO116_RUSPRO_NS_20081228191715.gif[/img]
This is how it'll go down.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...
That scenario is very unlikely, since it would only happen if there was a 3rd World War were the U.S.A. would've been trying to take over the world (the only way I can see this happening is if it turns fascist) by force and only a Coalition between other major countries would've been able to stop it. Then after the war the U.S.A would be occupied by the Coalition. Though I highly doubt the U.S.A. would be split and shared between the countries of said Coalition, it's not like Germany after 1945 were it was Capitalism versus Communism.
I think the only influence would be from Canada and Mexico, and even then both Canada and Mexico are Capitalist countries.
I think Mexico would jump on the occasion to get a hold of the southern part of Texas (or at least areas where the Hispanics form a majority) at worst and at best just a treaty in favour of Mexico (No border between the two countries, being physical or economical).
As for Canada, at worst it would try to get Alaska (the only thing separating the Canada from Alaska is an arbitrary line) and the territory around the great lakes (so Michigan would be pretty screwed). At best it would still ask for Alaska and economical compensations (since I'm pretty sure Canada would be the first country attacked by the U.S.A.).
As for Hawaii, I think the Australians would get their hands on it.
My theory is based on my opinion that the more similarities there is between two countries (also the closer they are to each other), the easier it would be to occupy it, thus explaining why I think the only countries getting anything from the aftermath of the war would be Mexico, Canada, and Australia.
Still, I'm no expert. What do YOU think?
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[QUOTE=peabrain101;17454157]Fuck no, we cannot be invaded and occupied.
Americans are way too proud for that.
Your teacher is an imbecile.[/QUOTE]
Dude, it's just a "What if" scenario. Japan was also too proud to be easily invaded and occupied. Why do you think the Americans had to nuke the shit out of them and kill thousands of civilians to make them accept a defeat? Not that I'm comparing the U.S.A. to what Japan was during WW2.
Bad reading? I'm saying that the only way the U.S.A. could get invaded one day is if they try to act like Germany in the 30's (the odds are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY against it, but never impossible. How can we predict how politics will evolve in 100 years?). Then what happens after an inevitable war is open to debate.
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[QUOTE=2-zero-0-seven;17454305]It's virtually impossible. America will probably never be invaded. Stop making these "what if" threads in GD. Go to fast threads where you belong.[/QUOTE]
I see no locked thread.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17498722]I once read an article during the spring that stated that the US Navy has such numbers and strenghts that they can at any point on the planet amass enough forces to over come any advesary. So if a fleet of troops where to be sent over by the Atlantic or Pacific, they would be utterly destroyed by our Navy.
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They were only successful from us bailing them out because [i]they're french.[/i] I mean, they were over run in a month. You expect their resistance to be any good?[/QUOTE]
great joke n all, well not really but the French used WW1 tactics against blitzkreig
[QUOTE=Tac Error;17502654]Don't forget that the Americans did in 1913 what exactly the Japanese did in WWII - adding the Philippines into their empire and turning it into a puppet state (Philippine Commonwealth)[/QUOTE]
How the fuck is the Philippines a puppet state?
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