[QUOTE=Tac Error;17456358]I still see more people who believe the PLA is a military stuck in the Cold War with obsolete Soviet equipment and scant training.[/QUOTE]
That's not entirely inaccurate.
ITT entirely unqualified children discussing geopolitical matters as though they are not having the same discussion, verbatim, that they have every single day on the internet.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17456506]ITT entirely unqualified children discussing geopolitical matters as though they are not having the same discussion, verbatim, that they have every single day on the internet.[/QUOTE]
That's the fun part yo
[QUOTE=Aegis°;17456505]That's not entirely inaccurate.[/QUOTE]
It's true that the PLA still keeps some old MiG-21 copies and Type 88 tanks, but really the PLA wouldn't be insane enough to field them in frontline units, just placed in storage.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17456128]Yeah, we're not like socialist Europe with every nation under one, single central authority.
Federalism bitch.[/QUOTE]
negro please
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[QUOTE=Lankist;17456506]ITT entirely unqualified children discussing geopolitical matters as though they are not having the same discussion, verbatim, that they have every single day on the internet.[/QUOTE]
i dropped your fucking name like three times
[QUOTE=Lankist;17456506]ITT entirely unqualified children discussing geopolitical matters as though they are not having the same discussion, verbatim, that they have every single day on the internet.[/QUOTE]
I reserve my right to go into any argument I wish with only basic to moderate prior knowledge in an attempt to half-assedly defend and assert my points, beliefs, or opinions against others doing the same thing with opposing beliefs while all simultaneously derailing a discussion about a moderately related topic.
[QUOTE=DPennington;17456261]One's a bunch of angry fuckers with home made explosives and 30+ year old weaponry, the other is a modern, giant military. Right, they are different.[/QUOTE]
The difference is that Guerrilla's are hard to weed out as you cannot tell a Guerrilla from a Civilian until they attack you. Then they will either die, or retreat. The wonderful thing about it is you often are unable to track them and they don't show their faces during the attack. So you could see the same Guerrilla the next day at the marketplace and have no idea he was your enemy.
With a Soldier from a Conventional Army, well I'm sure I don't need to explain how easy they are to spot.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17456725]The difference is that Guerrilla's are hard to weed out as you cannot tell a Guerrilla from a Civilian until they attack you. Then they will either die, or retreat. The wonderful thing about it is you often are unable to track them and they don't show their faces during the attack. So you could see the same Guerrilla the next day at the marketplace and have no idea he was your enemy.
With a Soldier from a Conventional Army, well I'm sure I don't need to explain how easy they are to spot.[/QUOTE]
True, true.
i guess you can say the melting pot will boil over
It would be like Iraq, only 20x worse and 10x less possible to contain.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17456506]ITT entirely unqualified children discussing geopolitical matters as though they are not having the same discussion, verbatim, that they have every single day on the internet.[/QUOTE]
I fail to see the point of stating the obvious.
what movie was it that was like
it would be 911 times a thousand
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17456939]I fail to see the point of stating the obvious.[/QUOTE]
majored in bullshit
[QUOTE=thisispain;17456941]what movie was it that was like
it would be 911 times a thousand
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majored in bullshit[/QUOTE]
Team America.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17456939]I fail to see the point of stating the obvious.[/QUOTE]
It is to belittle you all and to crush the facade of pseudo intellectualism that you all hold.
That is the point in stating the blatantly, glaringly, flamingly obvious.
-snip-
[QUOTE=nono345;17456810]i guess you can say the melting pot will boil over[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure the unity of American culture will over come the now-disappearing racial tensions in the US.
Especially against an external enemy. We may not like each other as much, we sure as hell love each other more than the enemy.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;17456963]It is to belittle you all and to crush the facade of pseudo intellectualism that you all hold.
That is the point in stating the blatantly, glaringly, flamingly obvious.[/QUOTE]
Why? It's not going to change anything. In fact, beside Thisisgay, I'm the only one who's responded to your statement.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17456980]
Why? It's not going to change anything. In fact, beside Thisisgay, I'm the only one who's responded to your statement.[/QUOTE]
I did too, thank you very much.
He's obviously right, but like you said, there's really no point in stating the obvious when it won't change anything.
I wouldn't be surprised if the United States started to crumble, China would try to step in.
[QUOTE=Euphorium;17457144]I wouldn't be surprised if the United States started to crumble, China would try to step in.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean militarily into our nation, or do you mean to try and influence for their own interests as we are?
[QUOTE=Jewsus;17456117]Okay you are idiot
China does not have the technology to fight [I]Iran[/I]. They would lose that war. [/QUOTE]
Fuck no they wouldn't, not in conventional combat.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;17457537]Fuck no they wouldn't, not in conventional combat.[/QUOTE]
"Conventional" combat is now insurgency and guerrilla warfare. There are no more head-to-head wars anymore. There haven't been for decades.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17457553]"Conventional" combat is now insurgency and guerrilla warfare. There are no more head-to-head wars anymore. There haven't been for decades.[/QUOTE]
Conventional combat is conventional combat; guerrilla warfare is guerrilla warfare, don't say they are the same, else you'll confuse the hell out of everyone. He said a conventional battle, not a guerrilla one. And the Iraq War started convetionally, only to become guerrilla after the downfall of Baghdad.
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Just because it doesn't have massive battles full of men and armour going at it like WWII doesn't mean it's not conventional.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17457553]"Conventional" combat is now insurgency and guerrilla warfare. There are no more head-to-head wars anymore. There haven't been for decades.[/QUOTE]
No? Conventional combat the Iraqi military under the governments control, guerrilla warfare is the result after occupation.
Completely different.
Unless they are going to ONLY be fighting like guerrillas, which in Iran's case is highly unlikely considering they do possess a certain level of advanced military.
Regardless I still wasn't talking about guerrilla warfare.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17457627]Conventional combat is conventional combat; guerrilla warfare is guerrilla warfare, don't say they are the same, else you'll confuse the hell out of everyone. He said a conventional battle, not a guerrilla one. And the Iraq War started convetionally, only to become guerrilla after the downfall of Baghdad.
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Just because it doesn't have massive battles full of men and armour going at it like WWII doesn't mean it's not conventional.[/QUOTE]
Wow ninja'd on the Iraq bit.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;17457627]Conventional combat is conventional combat; guerrilla warfare is guerrilla warfare, don't say they are the same, else you'll confuse the hell out of everyone. He said a conventional battle, not a guerrilla one. And the Iraq War started convetionally, only to become guerrilla after the downfall of Baghdad.
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Just because it doesn't have massive battles full of men and armour going at it like WWII doesn't mean it's not conventional.[/QUOTE]
Conventional battles don't happen any more. As soon as one side gets the edge guerrilla warfare takes over.
Insurgency IS the new convention.
That must be a joke, as soon as the US military got the edge in Iraq, the government collapsed.
Which means the Iraqi army lost, and the guerrillas that followed were not part of it.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17457761]Conventional battles don't happen any more. As soon as one side gets the edge guerrilla warfare takes over.
Insurgency IS the new convention.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you know what the definition of Conventional Warfare is. Let me enlighten you.
[quote]Conventional warfare is a form of warfare conducted by using conventional military weapons and battlefield tactics between two or more states in open confrontation. The forces on each side are well-defined, and fight using weapons that primarily target the opposing army. It is normally fought using conventional weapons, not chemical, biological, nor nuclear weapons.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Lankist;17456963]It is to belittle you all and to crush the facade of pseudo intellectualism that you all hold.
That is the point in stating the blatantly, glaringly, flamingly obvious.[/QUOTE]
:smithicide:
Lankist is getting bombed.
con·ven·tion (kn-vnshn)
n.
1.
a. A formal meeting of members, representatives, or delegates, as of a political party, fraternal society, profession, or industry.
b. The body of persons attending such an assembly: called the convention to order.
2. An agreement between states, sides, or military forces, especially an international agreement dealing with a specific subject, such as the treatment of prisoners of war.
3. General agreement on or acceptance of certain practices or attitudes: By convention, north is at the top of most maps.
4. A practice or procedure widely observed in a group, especially to facilitate social interaction; a custom: the convention of shaking hands.
5. A widely used and accepted device or technique, as in drama, literature, or painting: the theatrical convention of the aside.
That definition of Conventional Warfare is an oxymoron considering it is NOT the convention anymore.
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Convention means normal, average or regular.
"Conventional Warfare" is none of those things when you consider insurgency.
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But it's cool how you idiots don't understand the point I am making.
You took the definition of convention rather than the definition of conventional warfare.
That was sort of stupid.
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