Violence on television causes humans to be violent in real life. - General

[QUOTE=radioactive]Well for a 14 year old I have good self-control because I already take into account all those words you said but you do make a good point there, maybe new parents should be informed about this if they don't know but if they don't know should they really be having kids?[/QUOTE] The thing is that you have kids as a direct result of having sex; not as a result of you passing some parenting exam.

I support violence, without violence mankind would not survive.

[QUOTE=mikfoz]The thing is that you have kids as a direct result of having sex; not as a result of you passing some parenting exam.[/QUOTE] They could take the kids away.

It's nature. Population control. Other species kill their own kind all the time. Often for no reason.

[QUOTE=radioactive]They could take the kids away.[/QUOTE] And put them where?

Those kids are 6 year olds, that's completely different.

[QUOTE=mikfoz]And put them where?[/QUOTE] Your house? That'll teach them discipline. hehe But you could send the kids to work in African Diamond mines or gun factories or Mills like in the 1800's?

[QUOTE=kirderf]Those kids are 6 year olds, that's completely different.[/QUOTE] Different to what? That's the point being made. Not to show violent content to very young children unrestricted or unsupervised.

[QUOTE=NeoViolence]I support violence, without violence mankind would not survive.[/QUOTE] Agreed. Not to an extreme, but if we(humans) become too overpopulated, the Earth will retaliate and let loose some incurable strain of virus(or humans will do some stupid experiment that will create it) that will have a 90%+ fatality rate, just to keep our species in check.

[QUOTE=radioactive]Your house? That'll teach them discipline. hehe But you could send the kids to work in African Diamond mines or gun factories or Mills like in the 1800's?[/QUOTE] Yep... why the fuck is the world in the hands of dumb adults when 14-year-olds have all the answers?

I think that some people are more susceptible to being changed by what they see in video games and movies than others. This would naturally make more of an affect on a younger mind than that of an older one. For example. You could have a case where a 6 year old sees GTA and doesn't act on anything that happens in it and at the same time a 12 year old who tries to copy everything verbatim. So although normally the 6 year old would be more susceptible than the 12 year old for the sake of argument this is not the case because the 6 year old is a much different and less impressionable person than the 12 year old in spite of the age difference. So in other words you can't really make the statement that this affects everyone the same way because people are not exactly predictable.

Rodney King video caused the LA Riots :v:

[QUOTE=Spleet]Agreed. Not to an extreme, but if we(humans) become too overpopulated, the Earth will retaliate and let loose some incurable strain of virus(or humans will do some stupid experiment that will create it) that will have a 90%+ fatality rate, just to keep our species in check.[/QUOTE] How will the Earth know? You haven't got much of an idea how life works yet, have you!

[QUOTE=mikfoz]Yep... why the fuck is the world in the hands of dumb adults when 14-year-olds have all the answers?[/QUOTE] Well I'm too honest to be in charge.

[QUOTE=LeYang]Rodney King video caused the LA Riots :v:[/QUOTE] That had more to do with social issues between the LAPD and the people they were supposed to protect than some guy getting curb stomped.

[QUOTE=mikfoz]How will the Earth know? You haven't got much of an idea how life works yet, have you![/QUOTE] Er, gaia will get pissed at us, duh? Didn't you ever watch final fantasy the spirits within? God you call yourself a scientist...

[QUOTE=mikfoz]Different to what? That's the point being made. Not to show violent content to very young children unrestricted or unsupervised.[/QUOTE] You think a normal 16 year old would react the same? I doubt that.

[QUOTE=chris0132]Er, gaia will get pissed at us, duh? Didn't you ever watch final fantasy the spirits within? God you call yourself a scientist...[/QUOTE] I feel a fool :crying: [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=kirderf]You think a normal 16 year old would react the same? I doubt that.[/QUOTE] I never said that. But a 16 year old who has always accessed violent images from an early age and never had his views on them being normal challenged...

Violence is caused by people who wants to solve their problem quickly and immediately but are unable to do so. Violence is caused by impatience. Not Television, not video games, Impatiences. A patient man is a calm man.

[QUOTE=Spleet]It's nature. Population control. Other species kill their own kind all the time. Often for no reason.[/QUOTE] No they don't there is always a reason. Also I kind of disagree with the thread title. It doesn't cause them to be violent. Anger about something causes violence, misinformation, a fucked up mind, whatever. The exposition to it just makes it more likely to happen. look, a human that has logical thinking or at least an idea of "if i do this, this will happen" (and talking about others is kind of senseless, there is no argumentation basis) will not use violence when he clearly knows that there will be consequences. Bad consequences, consequences that won't be good for him. So he still uses violence. What may have caused this? 2 possibilities: 1: he has no sense of self-preservation and thus he just doesn't care about the consequences.( I may remind you that KNOWING about consequences is different to caring about them) 2: he doesn't know about the consequences. And part 2 is the important one. It raises the question about who is actually responsible for showing the bad side of violence. Answer: Parents and Media. Sure the media can be blamed for showing "Hey look violence is fun". But so can the parents for transmitting the message "hey violence is okay" passively by not actively raising their children.

[QUOTE=BCell]Violence is caused by people who wants to solve their problem quickly and immediately but are unable to do so. Violence is caused by impatience. Not Television, not video games, Impatiences. A patient man is a calm man.[/QUOTE] And what better way to teach this impatience but to teach kids that the normal way to resolve conflict is to use violence...

How about they kill all of the people that just fuck shit up and don't do anything for society. (Chavs etc...)

[QUOTE=radioactive]How about they kill all of the people that just fuck shit up and don't do anything for society. (Chavs etc...)[/QUOTE] You sure you don't want to run for World President? This is visionary stuff that's never occurred to anyone in the past and failed horribly. (Perhaps you got the idea from some film...)

[QUOTE=mikfoz]You sure you don't want to run for World President? This is visionary stuff that's never occurred to anyone in the past and failed horribly. (Perhaps you got the idea from some film...)[/QUOTE] I'd vote for him, i like his policys :D

[QUOTE=mikfoz]You sure you don't want to run for World President? This is visionary stuff that's never occurred to anyone in the past and failed horribly.[/QUOTE] I could threaten the world into submission by saying I have 4,000,000,000 or so nuclear weapons to fire at everyone if they don't give into my demands?

[QUOTE=radioactive]I could threaten the world into submission by saying I have 4,000,000,000 or so nuclear weapons to fire at everyone if they don't give into my demands?[/QUOTE] This idea is copyright USA

[QUOTE=mikfoz]Perhaps you got the idea from some film...[/QUOTE] Which film would that be? Maybe it was one that was too Violent and my parents who loved my stopped me from seeing it for my own good? [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=mikfoz]This idea is copyright USA[/QUOTE] Persons Republic of Radioactvive-land doesn't recognise any Copyrights stated by the USA, or the Geneva Convention

[QUOTE=Jebus] Though I still believe there are other factors to it. A child living a hard, abusive childhood is bound to develop and behave differently to a well-raised child, even if they were both encouraged to model such behaviours.[/QUOTE] I agree with that. When I was, oh 8 I believe, I played GTA Vice City. After playing it for over a year, I never did anything bad, or violent. Sure, with Forza 2, I did rage throw a controller once, but other than that I am not too aggressive or violent.

Parents are the problem in my opinion. Time to sound like a geezer here but here I go... When I was a kid if I had been violent when playing or something like that or disrespected my parents, my dad would have beat me half to fucking death, and he did it too. Was no 2 his on the arm with a belt, he's went at me with a 2x4 before for calling him a sob when I was a teen. The problem now is that parents don't want to discipline their kids anymore and just let them run rampant and do whatever they want, also, if you whip your kid or anything now you can end up locked up for child abuse (Not that most child abuse cases are undeserved, but my dad probably would have been locked up for hitting me with a 2x4). Parents are a big problem today and something really has to change, one thing I've noticed here in the last 15 years or so is the complete lack of a model adult in the of the kids' life around here (Tennessee, USA). The adults don't work and live off a check from the government and hate their life so they tell their kids they won't amount to anything and let them do whatever. This leads to the kids having no model adult in their life that tells them what life is like and what kind of potential they have, so they drop out of school, do drugs, go to jail, etc. It's horrible and I personally don't know what can be done to help it, but the officials from the schools and what not shouldn't go along with it. For example, at the school my nephew attends (I spend a lot of time with him since my brother is disabled and can't get out and teach him to hunt and what not), there are these classes the colleges and universities sponsor called Advanced Placement. Basically it's college level classes like U.S. History and Biology that give the students that pass the class 6 college credits. It's free and it's really helpful as it looks really good on an application and it saved money which is a really big problem around here. Now, the schools recently split and they built a new $22,000,000 school on the east end of the county. They're having funding problems and so their solution is to do away with the AP program because it costs $40,000 a year between the 2 schools and not many students take it. It's to be replaced with a Dual Enrollment (Going to classes outside of school) and a beefed up Honors program. The problem with this stupid ass idea is that it counts for nothing to a college. A 5 on the AP US History test will get you a scholarship, but a 105 grade in Honors US History is basically meaningless to them. Couple nice stats to help if anyone still sides with them over this stupid matter. The new school runs it's lights (Parking lot and field lights included) 24/7. The school's electric bill at the end of the month - About $55,000 The school has an automated calling system that notifies parents of the events going on at the school. However, they still felt the need to buy a $30,000 display in front of the school that advertises the events and games. Multiple other things as well, it's just really pathetic. The real reason they feel that they should cut the AP program is that we don't exactly have the highest grades nor the lowest dropout rate in the state here. HOWEVER, we have more students who have passes the AP test than any other county in the state, 30% more than the wealthiest county, Williamson. It's just fucked and they're doing nothing to the students but further hurting them and the US populace as a whole with actions such as this.

I blame all violence on Fox news, and bad parenting. As well as close mindedness.