• The next President - who's good enough?
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254099]I wouldn't say you're nuts, but I wouldn't agree with the idea that Ron Paul is supporting Progressive values, more that he happens to have some positions that coincide with some Progressive positions, generally limited to his stance on war. His economic policies however, are those of deregulation and tax cuts, which will not help this country right now.[/QUOTE] The Federal Reserve continues to print out 3 million dollars every minute, continuing to devalue our fucking dollar. Are you kidding me? He's with EXPOSING GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254132]The Federal Reserve continues to print out 3 million dollars every minute, continuing to devalue our fucking dollar.[/quote] Source? [QUOTE=Scoooby;34254132]Are you kidding me? He's with EXPOSING GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.[/QUOTE] And what makes you think he would push for greater regulation of the banks that hurt our economy?
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254132]The Federal Reserve continues to print out 3 million dollars every minute, continuing to devalue our fucking dollar. Are you kidding me? He's with EXPOSING GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION.[/QUOTE] u know if you have to vote for Ron Paul to expose corruption maybe you should just do an armed revolt instead
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254145]And what makes you think he would push for greater regulation of the banks that hurt our economy?[/QUOTE] He voted against ending the Glass-Steagall Act. [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254099]I wouldn't say you're nuts, but I wouldn't agree with the idea that Ron Paul is supporting Progressive values, more that he happens to have some positions that coincide with some Progressive positions, generally limited to his stance on war. His economic policies however, are those of deregulation and tax cuts, which will not help this country right now.[/QUOTE] It's mainly the slashing the military thing.
Meh. Ron Paul has good ideas, but a lot of people see them as impractical. He's a future-focused guy, but a lot of people view that as a threat to the present, which is very true. His ideas have potential, but his changes are just too big for American society to grasp.
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;34254164]He voted against ending the Glass-Steagall Act.[/QUOTE] I mean what makes you think he would push for more? Did he at any point introduce a bill to regulate banks better? [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=SystemGS;34254179]Meh. Ron Paul has good ideas, but a lot of people see them as impractical. He's a future-focused guy, but a lot of people view that as a threat to the present, which is very true. His ideas have potential, but his changes are just too big for American society to grasp.[/QUOTE] No, it's not that they're too radical, it's that they don't work.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254180]I mean what makes you think he would push for more? Did he at any point introduce a bill to regulate banks better? [editline]16th January 2012[/editline] No, it's not that they're too radical, it's that they don't work.[/QUOTE] HE WANTS TO REMOVE GOVERNMENT OPERATED BANKS IN ALL TOTALITY you idiot. Do you not know what the fuck a libertarian is? You're the product of ignorance. Look at you.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254202]HE WANTS TO REMOVE GOVERNMENT OPERATED BANKS IN ALL TOTALITY you idiot.[/QUOTE] seeing as Goldman Sachs and the like got us in this mess, why would we want government banks to disappear?
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254180]No, it's not that they're too radical, it's that they don't work.[/QUOTE] I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but I see validity in what he says. Killing the Fed [I]is[/I] radical, but that's okay with me. Cutting military spending seems logical, a lot more logical than making it even bigger. If you consider the might of the military-industrial complex in our day, it's exactly what Eisenhower warned us about. Some of these ideas can work, but many view them as impossible. Ron Paul is a high idealist, and that's not necessarily good in politics.
If there were ratings, so many boxes would be flying around. Most of them at Scoooby, mostly for the strong words and caps locks, calm yourself!
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254202]HE WANTS TO REMOVE GOVERNMENT OPERATED BANKS IN ALL TOTALITY you idiot. Do you not know what the fuck a libertarian is? You're the product of ignorance. Look at you.[/QUOTE] Right, he'd abolish the Federal Reserve, but what of the banks that are not government-approved? JP Morgan, Bank of America, and Citibank? Will he regulate them? I don't think so.
Anyway, the Government needs to print out a certain amount of money every year to keep up with population growth and expansion of wealth.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254202]HE WANTS TO REMOVE GOVERNMENT OPERATED BANKS IN ALL TOTALITY you idiot. Do you not know what the fuck a libertarian is? You're the product of ignorance. Look at you.[/QUOTE] what makes you think that is a good idea
[QUOTE=SystemGS;34254239]I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but I see validity in what he says. Killing the Fed [I]is[/I] radical, but that's okay with me. Cutting military spending seems logical, a lot more logical than making it even bigger. If you consider the might of the military-industrial complex in our day, it's exactly what Eisenhower warned us about. Some of these ideas can work, but many view them as impossible. Ron Paul is a high idealist, and that's not necessarily good in politics.[/QUOTE] If you don't support ending the fed, what do you support? The continuation of fucked political games? Watch revolution happen and Ron Paul will shut down what we look at as "republican" in this modern era. He's a republican because Washington was. Enforce amendment rights and enforce the end of laws! (once again, i'm a fucking registered democrat and i supportED obama. no longer)
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254202]HE WANTS TO REMOVE GOVERNMENT OPERATED BANKS IN ALL TOTALITY you idiot. Do you not know what the fuck a libertarian is? You're the product of ignorance. Look at you.[/QUOTE] did you know that not all libertarians are conservative? that many libertarians support socialism? open your mind. The Libertarian Party only represents far-right libertarians.
[QUOTE=SystemGS;34254239]I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but I see validity in what he says. Killing the Fed [I]is[/I] radical, but that's okay with me. Cutting military spending seems logical, a lot more logical than making it even bigger. If you consider the might of the military-industrial complex in our day, it's exactly what Eisenhower warned us about.[/quote] We don't need to 'kill' the Federal Reserve, we just need to make it publicly accountable like any other part of government. Put the Federal in Federal Reserve. [QUOTE=SystemGS;34254239]Some of these ideas can work, but many view them as impossible. Ron Paul is a high idealist, and that's not necessarily good in politics.[/QUOTE] Well let's think of a few of his key economic ideals: 1. Abolition of the Income Tax - Would put us in an even worse deficit than we are already in. 2. As little regulation of industry as possible - How would this help? 3. Anti-war stance - This one's fine.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;34254257]what makes you think that is a good idea[/QUOTE] Oh I HAVE NO CLUE [video=youtube;NwHdSl1ASbA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwHdSl1ASbA[/video]
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254260]If you don't support ending the fed, what do you support? The continuation of fucked political games?[/quote] He just said ending the Fed is alright with him, calm down.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254260]If you don't support ending the fed, what do you support? The continuation of fucked political games? Watch revolution happen and Ron Paul will shut down what we look at as "republican" in this modern era. He's a republican because Washington was. Enforce amendment rights and enforce the end of laws! (once again, i'm a fucking registered democrat and i supportED obama. no longer)[/QUOTE] how does having a national bank automatically mean we have "fucked political games"?
Highly idealist. Highly objective people. Are the fucking ones who run this country, and it's why we're such shit.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254248]Right, he'd abolish the Federal Reserve, but what of the banks that are not government-approved? JP Morgan, Bank of America, and Citibank? Will he regulate them? I don't think so.[/QUOTE] There's an inherent flaw in regulation that allows for regulatory capture of the agency that watches the business. Abolishing the Fed would prompt the government to look at regulatory capture as a serious issue. If they attack that issue, the system works a lot more smoothly.
Not supporting Obama because he could not do everything he wanted to do and made a few compromises while flocking to Ron Paul as if he is the fucking Messiah is ridiculously uninformed.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254276]He just said ending the Fed is alright with him, calm down.[/QUOTE] sorry i can't keep up with you kids and your quick responses END The FED NO MORE FEDERAL THAN FEDERAL EXPRESS. Spread the word, let's just focus on one goal. Most people are not awake and won´t understand the whole picture! Let´s keep it simple!
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254289]sorry i can't keep up with you kids and your quick responses[/QUOTE] Try turning off the caps lock and calling people ignorant at every turn and you might have an easier time of it.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254289]sorry i can't keep up with you kids and your quick responses Start writing on your money: END The FED NO MORE FEDERAL THAN FEDERAL EXPRESS. Spread* the word, let's just focus on one goal. Most people are not awake and won´t understand the whole picture! Let´s keep it simple![/QUOTE] lmao did you just call us "kids" you act like a fucking 3 year old, you fucking paulbot
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254282]Highly idealist. Highly objective people. Are the fucking ones who run this country, and it's why we're such shit.[/QUOTE] Ad hominem never wins an argument, but please stop helping in perpetuating the idea that RP supporters and libertarians are crazed political pundits.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254282]Highly idealist. Highly objective people. Are the fucking ones who run this country, and it's why we're such shit.[/QUOTE] Libertarian thinking is why we are in such shit. Somehow, they convinced politicians that limiting the expansion of all social programs and regulation of industries are amazing ideas. In the last 40 years, unregulated banks have been growing and funneling money into the pockets of the rich while the bottom 90% of the country never saw their earnings increase over the rate of inflation.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254289]END The FED NO MORE FEDERAL THAN FEDERAL EXPRESS. Spread the word, let's just focus on one goal. Most people are not awake and won´t understand the whole picture! Let´s keep it simple![/QUOTE] Right and I'm saying we should make the Federal Reserve publicly accountable, make them an actual part of the Federal Government.
[QUOTE=Scoooby;34254289]sorry i can't keep up with you kids and your quick responses END The FED NO MORE FEDERAL THAN FEDERAL EXPRESS. Spread the word, let's just focus on one goal. Most people are not awake and won´t understand the whole picture! Let´s keep it simple![/QUOTE] Oh for the love of Christ. The Federal Reserve is essential to the functioning of the Economy. All Governments have Central Banks that perform the same duties as the Fed. While I agree that the Fed needs to be regulated more tightly, I think that the idea of abolishing such an institution would wreck the American Economy
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;34254326]Right and I'm saying we should make the Federal Reserve publicly accountable, make them an actual part of the Federal Government.[/QUOTE] You dumbass. I was saying that in the first place. The Federal Reserve was introduced in a bill that went unnoticed. And the corruption will no longer go unnoticed. How can you not support that? Ok. If you support it. Me too. Honestly, my new love for Ron Paul is completely new and it was me looking at my other choices to be honest. Because there's no fucking other democrats running for election but BARRACK. And you guys are going to vote for Obama (or whoever you support, which you fail to fucking tell me) I'm not voting for Obama, because he's another face for Wall Street.
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