• Musicians Off-topic Discussion Thread v2 - Now with 250% more dubstep
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[QUOTE=geogzm;39333474][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dzO4S3qBI[/media] made this 'song' for a laugh with a few friends lessen 2 snig pls[/QUOTE] When you're singing (sounds more like you're talking in a hushed tone not to disturb anyone), are you feeling your stomach muscles working? When you're singign from the diagraphm, you're pushing air through your lungs to get your vocal chords stiff, which makes your voice sound strong and confident. I like the riffing to this song,a more confident and stronger vocal effort could make this a neat little song, you got any way of recording the guitar with an amplifier and a microphone?
yeah I live in an upstairs flat and the people downstairs are some roughass cockneys or something I don't have much to record with - if I had a much more secluded area to practice and not have to worry about disturbing others, then I'd be able to improve on singing, in turn being able to invest in better equipment and shit. Soon me and a few friends have access to a cabin alone so we can try a few things there and I can sing to my heart's content. I'd like to look at some proper lessons online or something, to get at least a basic idea of what I'm supposed to be doing.
what do you guys think of this? [MEDIA]http://soundcloud.com/sharkalarm/space-whale#play[/MEDIA]
For learning guitar, could I self teach or try to get a teacher? My grandmother gave me her old acoustic(she used to play :v:) and I'm interested in learning how to play so I have something to do on weekdays to keep away from the interwebs. Like right now
Get lessons to begin with, graduate away from them when you feel comfortable
[QUOTE=killerteacup;39336096]Get lessons to begin with, graduate away from them when you feel comfortable[/QUOTE] Okay. I'll see what I can do. I'm really interested in '60's era rock- I love stuff like Paint it Black, Fortunate Son, and House of the Rising Sun. Those are the songs I want to learn first. Too hard?
[QUOTE=geogzm;39333474][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73dzO4S3qBI[/media] made this 'song' for a laugh with a few friends lessen 2 snig pls[/QUOTE] You need to sing louder and stronger, it sounds indeed like you're trying not to disturb anyone or that you're reall nervous. Also try to sing an octave higher or try playing in higher keys, you may find it easier to sing in a higher pitch. If you sing too low it'll be difficult to sing loud.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;39340398]You need to sing louder and stronger, it sounds indeed like you're trying not to disturb anyone or that you're reall nervous. Also try to sing an octave higher or try playing in higher keys, you may find it easier to sing in a higher pitch. If you sing too low it'll be difficult to sing loud.[/QUOTE] Yet again, downstairs neighbours. That's the pitch I feel most comfortable singing with, although I'd like to try out a little more when I'm in this cabin I mentioned.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA-owDEGpac[/media] HOLY FUCK!!
[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;39344456][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA-owDEGpac[/media] HOLY FUCK!![/QUOTE] Man that looks fucking sweet might be my first hardware purchase :v:
Jesus the editing in that video is obnoxious. It sounds great though.
holy shit they're resurrecting the ms-20 I'm in
those asians are pretty funny
Got classic vibe 50 strat, my first guitar. Tuned it. Now, which source is good to start learning ? I have L&M guitar lesson videos.
play songs you like that aren't that difficult to play. [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] i think the first full song i learned was stay together for the kids by blink 182
I learned a lot of Rage Against The Machine and Audioslave to get myself going, but that was because I worship Tom Morello and loved his stuff before hand. So yeah, I'd try to find simple songs from your library that you know already, so you only have to learn the guitar part rather than the structure as well.
[QUOTE=fritzel;39354788]Got classic vibe 50 strat, my first guitar. Tuned it. Now, which source is good to start learning ? I have L&M guitar lesson videos.[/QUOTE] listen to songs you like and learn them by ear. even if it takes you a month to do one song. i can absolutely 100% guarantee that you will never, ever regret learning with your ears.
[url]https://soundcloud.com/geogzm/wot-i-got-m8[/url] fucking hell this is an example of why I need to find somewhere to record in solitude without being paranoid about the people downstairs also why I should invest in some proper recording equipment
[QUOTE=geogzm;39357646][url]https://soundcloud.com/geogzm/wot-i-got-m8[/url] fucking hell this is an example of why I need to find somewhere to record in solitude without being paranoid about the people downstairs also why I should invest in some proper recording equipment[/QUOTE] line your guitar that's what i do. don't have to worry about a thang
Aye, get an m-audio fast track, an sm58, one microphone cable and an instrument cable and you've got a setup for all your recording needs for about $200 :smile: Get the mic used and it's even cheaper! Get guitar rig for your guitar (a vst that simulates amplifiers and various effects, you can get just about every possible sound out of it) and you can start recording some terrific songs, all in your living room :smile: I'd say getting a pop filter would be advised as well, this can be made with two coathangers (out of metal) and compression stockings for a real cheap buck as well, and will work just as well as a 'profesionally made' one (sort of). [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] The best thing too about getting above items is that you're going to be able to use the sm58 for your whole musicmaking career, it is capable of recording just about every instrument you'll ever get, and works for all styles of vocals. I can bet my liver on that you're still going to use the sm58 after 5 years (if you continue making music) and if you're even the slightest serious about making music, the cables will also be in your possession and be of great use for many, many years to come. The m-audio fast track you'll probably toss away in favour of a better one, but for the money it costs and your current needs, is probably one of the best alternatives.
I have an Sm57 and a set of Condensers which are all great but I'm going to invest in an sm58 next. I'll probably end up using it more as well.
Does anyone know what kinda locations I could go to practice without anybody else being bothered by singing/playing? I keep limiting myself and I'm conscious of it and it bugs me, but I don't know where to go. [url]https://soundcloud.com/geogzm/twenty-pence-in-range[/url]
[QUOTE=geogzm;39367854]Does anyone know what kinda locations I could go to practice without anybody else being bothered by singing/playing? I keep limiting myself and I'm conscious of it and it bugs me, but I don't know where to go. [url]https://soundcloud.com/geogzm/twenty-pence-in-range[/url][/QUOTE] Solitary places such as the woods or just out of the city, basements, abandoned buildings and whathave you.
[QUOTE=Skeeter;39368235]Solitary places such as the woods or just out of the city, basements, abandoned buildings and whathave you.[/QUOTE] that, or fuck your neighbors, sing as loud as you want
they're the kind of people who like to 'bash heds in m8 u avin a gabber wot wot'
Has anyone recorded drums before using just two mics? I know it's possible, but has anyone got any tips and mic placements and mixing?
[QUOTE=Peppermint;39377219]Has anyone recorded drums before using just two mics? I know it's possible, but has anyone got any tips and mic placements and mixing?[/QUOTE] Two good overhead mics, place one of the mics slightly behind you(the drummer) to the left, so that it is near your left elbow, at two drumsticks length. Aim it at the middle of the snare. The next one should be raised above the ride or above the floor tom, also at two drumsticks length aimed at the snare. When mixing with only two mics you're going to have to sweep the EQ after the sweet spots for the individual parts of the drum, I.E the lower frequencies for the bass drum, lower mids&higher mids for the snare and the higher frequencies for the cymbals. Obviously you're also going to try and find the sweet spots for the toms as well, sometimes it'll work itself out just as well if you're sort of finding the middleground for the toms&kickNsnare so that you don't mud up the lower frequencies as well. Another idea is to copy the recorded tracks (from now on Left and Right) and have each of the copies focus completely on the individual drums, and cut out the frequencies that doesn't sound good (do this when mixing only two tracks as well) and also the frequencies that use other drumparts if you dig? :smile:
[QUOTE=Skeeter;39377454]Two good overhead mics, place one of the mics slightly behind you(the drummer) to the left, so that it is near your left elbow, at two drumsticks length. Aim it at the middle of the snare. The next one should be raised above the ride or above the floor tom, also at two drumsticks length aimed at the snare. When mixing with only two mics you're going to have to sweep the EQ after the sweet spots for the individual parts of the drum, I.E the lower frequencies for the bass drum, lower mids&higher mids for the snare and the higher frequencies for the cymbals. Obviously you're also going to try and find the sweet spots for the toms as well, sometimes it'll work itself out just as well if you're sort of finding the middleground for the toms&kickNsnare so that you don't mud up the lower frequencies as well. Another idea is to copy the recorded tracks (from now on Left and Right) and have each of the copies focus completely on the individual drums, and cut out the frequencies that doesn't sound good (do this when mixing only two tracks as well) and also the frequencies that use other drumparts if you dig? :smile:[/QUOTE] Thanks for that, I'll give that a go when I get recording! As for the last part, I didnt even think of that. I dig it :D
If I only have two mics and stereo isn't a concern, I like putting a condenser above the drummers head facing the kit and a dynamic just capturing the bass drum. It's an interesting technique that can help keep a punchy bass drum sound with a limited channel count. Of course you loose the stereo effect, which isn't always critical (For example in a live recording where you have some room and audience mics filling in the gaps anyway) Done right, overheads can usually give you 90% of the sound you want anyway, with close micing just used to add a bit of that modern punchy sound.
tried writing lyrics, excuse poor singing you know the drill nasal breathe blasting in to the mic occasionally so don't listen to it up loud or anythang [url]https://soundcloud.com/geogzm/monday-morning-block[/url] it's a start pop pop pop watchin audio quality drop
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