Anarchy: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need - General

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24543274]6. Mankind learns. It used to be despotism, then it became monarchy and warlords, then it became democracy,... The mot logical step would be anarchy. :v:[/QUOTE] What would come after Anarchy? If you say nothing because it's the perfect solution, you're a prime example of why nonfunctional political systems are instilled in the first place. Disregarding the fact that we still have warlords and monarchies.

[QUOTE=Droogie;24543934]What would come after Anarchy? If you say nothing because it's the perfect solution, you're a prime example of why nonfunctional political systems are instilled in the first place. Disregarding the fact that we still have warlords and monarchies.[/QUOTE] Ironically a place that warlords actually took hold of was Somalia, while it was an anarchist state.

The fact that the OP is referring to his ideology as anarchy and not anarchism, and that he doesn't have the slightest idea about communism in relation to anarchy, and that he simply doesn't know shit about democracy in current or later times, and has no clue about the repercussions of a stateless and/or anarchistic society, seems to me to indicate he doesn't know nearly enough about anarchism or any other leftist ideology. That and anarchists are totally communist's bitches. Puppets that do the heavy work of the communist politicians for the goal of the communists. They never seem to realize this, bu I more or less figured this out a year ago, and my democratic libertarian friend also came to the same conclusion, as did one of my 'mentors' in Marxist theory. Anarchists are silly and uneducated, and their methods are counterproductive, if they ever do anything at all.

[QUOTE=Droogie;24543934]What would come after Anarchy? [/QUOTE] Perhaps Communism. Somebody might step up, show everybody how out of control everything is, and then install a Communist system to allow proper production of goods and services. This is all in theory, of course. We still have yet to reach the "Anarchy stage" of governmental structure that OP seems to want.

[QUOTE=FuhFuhFresh;24543856]I'm both amazed and confused as to how a thread about Anarchy has more intelligent discussion than a thread about Communism. [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=984305&page=4[/url][/QUOTE] I posted this thread now because in around 5 hours or so the majority of the kids will log in. :v: and @David: Please. Pleaaaaase... I quoted indeed that the word Anarchy both means Chaos AND ALSO the poilitical view point am talking about. It doesnt mean that the political view IS chaos, it just means that those who made the word associated both. And the actual system is perfectly good? lol. Am not saying that Anarchy is the best thing ever, am saying that some persons concider themselves anarchists, want the governement to leave them alone and let them create their own society. Wether you find the actual thing good or no depends on you, but dont stand against people trying to have something differnet for themselves. But sadely, people laugh at anarchy right now because, like always, there is this huge mis-use of the word anarchy, along with that propaganda to make leadership inevitable.

In short: OP is an angsty teen who scribbles the anarchy symbol on bathroom walls, and complains about the government putting mind control serum into his chicken nuggets.

[QUOTE=Detective P;24543991]The fact that the OP is referring to his ideology as anarchy and not anarchism, and that he doesn't have the slightest idea about communism in relation to anarchy, and that he simply doesn't know shit about democracy in current or later times, and has no clue about the repercussions of a stateless and/or anarchistic society, seems to me to indicate he doesn't know nearly enough about anarchism or any other leftist ideology.[/QUOTE] At first I was like this: :buddy: [QUOTE=Detective P;24543991]That and anarchists are totally communist's bitches. Puppets that do the heavy work of the communist politicians for the goal of the communists. They never seem to realize this, bu I more or less figured this out a year ago, and my democratic libertarian friend also came to the same conclusion, as did one of my 'mentors' in Marxist theory. Anarchists are silly and uneducated, and their methods are counterproductive, if they ever do anything at all.[/QUOTE] And then I was like this: :frown: [quote]They never seem to realize this, bu I more or less figured this out a year ago,[/quote] Good job ruining your whole post...

[QUOTE=FuhFuhFresh;24544010]Perhaps Communism. Somebody might step up, show everybody how out of control everything is, and then install a Communist system to allow proper production of goods and services. This is all in theory, of course. We still have yet to reach the "Anarchy stage" of governmental structure that OP seems to want.[/QUOTE] We've tried Communism before. Which is my point, there's no superior system of government, it's all circumstantial. Anarchy, Communism, etc may work for a small commune while a Representative democracy would be more efficient for a larger society consisting of multiple states.

[QUOTE=Hellduck;24544094]In short: OP is an angsty teen who scribbles the anarchy symbol on bathroom walls, and complains about the government putting mind control serum into his chicken nuggets.[/QUOTE] I hate this stereotype of Anarchists. Personally I'm a Classic liberal, but I know a tonne of Anarchist squatters who are perfectly reasonable people. They just feel that by living outside of the governments direct control, they are more at liberty to live how they wish.

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24544130]At first I was like this: :buddy: And then I was like this: :frown: Good job ruining your whole post...[/QUOTE] Sorry mate. Two completely separate thoughts there. That ans the majority of the second part was mostly non serious. The last part about the counter-productivity was serious though.

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;24544177]I hate this stereotype of Anarchists. Personally I'm a Classic liberal, but I know a tonne of Anarchist squatters who are perfectly reasonable people. They just feel that by living outside of the governments direct control, they are more at liberty to live how they wish.[/QUOTE] know the old quote? The more free persons around me, the more free I am. [editline]05:16PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Detective P;24544203]That ans the majority of the second part was mostly non serious. The last part about the counter-productivity was serious though.[/QUOTE] Why do people think that you can only be productive if there is someone cracking a whip behind you?

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24544259]know the old quote? The more free persons around me, the more free I am. [editline]05:16PM[/editline] Why do people think that you can only be productive if there is someone cracking a whip behind you?[/QUOTE] That's not what I meant. The only real action anarchists take is demonstration and from time to time small scale attacks. Obviously terrorism isn't helpful, and their participations in demonstrations always end up with a group of them starting a riot or acting violent or just overall rowdy. Never helps them any. My comment had nothing to do with organization, just their strategies and how they conduct themselves.

OP, please make this your avatar: [IMG]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9128407/Images/Dumb%20anarchist.gif[/IMG]

Anarchy barely works on paper.

[QUOTE=Hellduck;24544444]OP, please make this your avatar: [img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9128407/Images/Dumb%20anarchist.gif[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] you should make those agrees and other one pop up slower

[QUOTE=BrQ;24544486]you should make those agrees and other one pop up slower[/QUOTE] Aye. I couldn't be bothered putting in different frame delays for those ones, but I'll do them now. [editline]05:32PM[/editline] Done.

[QUOTE=Detective P;24544381]That's not what I meant. The only real action anarchists take is demonstration and from time to time small scale attacks. Obviously terrorism isn't helpful, and their participations in demonstrations always end up with a group of them starting a riot or acting violent or just overall rowdy. Never helps them any. My comment had nothing to do with organization, just their strategies and how they conduct themselves.[/QUOTE] Ohhh come on... It's true that black blocks are anarchists, but they are the only ones medias talk about. You don't hear about the pacific alter-mondialists, only about the black blocks, because they are obviously part of the violent-anarchist sterotype. I would have used it since its representative of how anarchy is viewed, just another view for some, a viable opportunity for some, and dumb for most. But since I cant. :/

You didn't describe anarchy at all. It is the lack of government... as soon as that community band together to enforce its "rules" there is now a government.

[QUOTE=sgman91;24544736]You didn't describe anarchy at all. It is the lack of government... as soon as that community band together to enforce its "rules" there is now a government.[/QUOTE] A government governs something, making rules and making sure the citisens follow them. A community makes the rules by itself for itself. You made a huge mistake there, that's what the communual anarchy is all about.

Seems kind of pointless and counter-productive to me. [editline]06:34PM[/editline] [QUOTE=kayOkay;24544868]A government governs something, making rules and making sure the citisens follow them. A community makes the rules by itself for itself. You made a huge mistake there, that's what the communual anarchy is all about.[/QUOTE] If a community makes rules for itself, It governs itself. Ego, it is a government.

Anarchy is too much like populism: in other words, all the retards could just vote without knowing anything about the issue.

People more qualified to make certain decisions should be making them. How would you feel if an artist ended up deciding on the treatment for your cancer? It's fine to complain about certain governments but by and large they've been educated to lead, and they've (in most first world countries at least) been elected for that.

[B]Protip:[/B] If you're going to promote something that isn't looked favorably upon, don't have all the questions in your question-answer format make the curious look like stupid kiddies. All it does is make you come off as someone who's trying to look superior and roll about on an inflated ego. Your better bet would have been to come at it from a very neutral standpoint. I mean, let's just make up an example here: [quote][B]Q. OH MY GOD, GOD DOES EXIST YOU STUPID PERSON.[/B] [B]A. [/B]God's existence can not be physically proven or disproven. In essence, a god or collection of gods can not be argued about one way or another. Until proof says otherwise, it is up to the individual to make up their mind.[/quote][quote][B]Q. On the concept of a higher being, say God, wouldn't one assume that there would have to be one our very existence to be tangible?[/B] [B]A. [/B]God's existence can not be physically proven or disproven. In essence, a god or collection of gods can not be argued about one way or another. Until proof says otherwise, it is up to the individual to make up their mind.[/quote]Who looks more professional? :v:

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24539641]Christiania existed for nearly 40 years, and is still alive. :smug:[/QUOTE] Shut. The Fuck. Up. OP, please don't make other people look bad.

[QUOTE=Doom14;24547567]Who looks more professional? :v:[/QUOTE] You got a point. :buddy: [QUOTE=Lenni;24547661]Shut. The Fuck. Up. OP, please don't make other people look bad.[/QUOTE] I do not understand what you mean.

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24547747]I do not understand what you mean.[/QUOTE] Christiania isn't in Anarchy.

i like how the op said that anarchy doesn't mean chaos, but one of the definitions of anarchy in his post is chaos

[QUOTE=Lenni;24547864]Christiania isn't in Anarchy.[/QUOTE] "Christiania is as close to anarchy as you will ever get," explained Wanda Liszt, a spokesman of the Christianites, as the free town's inhabitants call themselves. "Our only laws are: "no hard drugs', "no guns', "no violence' and "no cars'." [url=http://www.erowid.org/culture/communities/communities_media1.shtml]spicy sauce[/url] [editline]08:31PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Archy;24548112]i like how the op said that anarchy doesn't mean chaos, but one of the definitions of anarchy in his post is chaos[/QUOTE] Read more. Also, is that Sarkozy in your avatar? looks prety close but hard to tell. Would be pretty funny if it was him. :v: [editline]08:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lenni;24547864]Christiania isn't in Anarchy.[/QUOTE] Wait I just realised.... Your avatar... rate me clocks.

[QUOTE=kayOkay;24548276]"Christiania is as close to anarchy as you will ever get," explained Wanda Liszt, a spokesman of the Christianites, as the free town's inhabitants call themselves. "Our only laws are: "no hard drugs', "no guns', "no violence' and "no cars'." [/QUOTE]Theft is allowed. Sweet

[QUOTE=johan_sm;24548552]Theft is allowed. Sweet[/QUOTE] they should have a law saying "Don't be a dick"