The Beauty of Africa! - General

[QUOTE=Moose;25964937]Did you know that some african tribes rejected medical treatment for old world diseases from white people because they're racist? Did you also know it was the birthplace of AIDS and harbors more diseases and ailments than any other continent in the world? Also, vuvuzelas.[/QUOTE] Did you know the Catholic Church strongly urges abstinence as a way to prevent AIDS and is one of the biggest reasons why AIDS is such a huge issue in Africa? Did you know that much of the poverty and despair can be traced back to the greed of multinational corporations for mineral resources? Where exactly do you think all those warlords get money for weapons and ammunition? Oh wait, what am I saying? It's all those weird dark colored people's fault. [b]White man only does good!!!![/b]

Wow Mane, if you love Africans so much go live their and see that people who don't want help can't be helped for yourself.

Lots of fascists in Africa killing homosexuals and whatnot.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972261]Did you know the Catholic Church strongly urges abstinence as a way to prevent AIDS and is one of the biggest reasons why AIDS is such a huge issue in Africa? [/QUOTE] because preaching spreads aids

[QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972288]Wow Mane, if you love Africans so much go live their and see that people who don't want help can't be helped for yourself.[/QUOTE] I am sure you reached this amazingly airtight conclusion after your extensive public health fieldwork in Africa. Oh wait, right. In any case, what offended you so much about my post? That I'm making the bold statement that people in terrible circumstances often don't actually deserve anything to be in those circumstances? Wait, why am I even responding to you? This sentence doesn't even make any sense: [b]Wow Mane, if you love Africans so much go live their and see that people who don't want help can't be helped for yourself.[/b] [QUOTE=Archy;25972308]because preaching spreads aids[/QUOTE] Preaching abstinence and saying that condoms are useless certainly does. There is a wealth of literature on this topic. But I understand Google is difficult to use for kids new to the internet: [quote]In 2003, the WHO denounced statements by the Roman Curia's health department, saying: "These incorrect statements about condoms and HIV are dangerous when we are facing a global pandemic which has already killed more than 20 million people, and currently affects at least 42 million."[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_AIDS#Criticism[/url] More reading: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/17/pope-africa-condoms-aids[/url]

[QUOTE=Mane;25972311]I am sure you reached this amazingly airtight conclusion after your extensive public health fieldwork in Africa. Oh wait, right. In any case, what offended you so much about my post? That I'm making the bold statement that people in terrible circumstances often don't actually deserve anything to be in those circumstances? Wait, why am I even responding to you? This sentence doesn't even make any sense: [b]Wow Mane, if you love Africans so much go live their and see that people who don't want help can't be helped for yourself.[/b][/QUOTE] why are you making such a big deal out of africa

[QUOTE=Mane;25972311]I am sure you reached this amazingly airtight conclusion after your extensive public health fieldwork in Africa. Oh wait, right. In any case, what offended you so much about my post? That I'm making the bold statement that people in terrible circumstances often don't actually deserve anything to be in those circumstances? Wait, why am I even responding to you? This sentence doesn't even make any sense: [b]Wow Mane, if you love Africans so much go live their and see that people who don't want help can't be helped for yourself.[/b][/QUOTE] I see you bring it up twice in a few days saying shit about how they are so poor and crap. You obviously have some sort of attachment to them in that matter. Donating money that will get taken by a corrupt government doesn't help anything. Why would these countries leaders want the system they exploit so well to be changed, like growers and California voting. [editline]10th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Archy;25972323]why are you making such a big deal out of africa[/QUOTE] this pretty much

[QUOTE=Archy;25972323]why are you making such a big deal out of africa[/QUOTE] Why are you making a big deal out of internet posts? :downs: [QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972338]I see you bring it up twice in a few days saying shit about how they are so poor and crap.[/quote] I don't even remember this. Obviously you do so if we want to play that middle school game, clearly you're the one with the obsession. Could you point out this post to me? [quote]You obviously have some sort of attachment to them in that matter.[/quote] Even if I did, what's it matter to you? Assuming you ever even got near a medical school with your awful grasp on spelling, grammar, and basic reasoning, why are you interested in medicine? [quote]Donating money that will get taken by a corrupt government doesn't help anything. Why would these countries leaders want the system they exploit so well to be changed, like growers and California voting.[/QUOTE] Who said anything about donating money to a corrupt government? Did I? Go back and actually read what I said, if you're cognitively capable of it. A+ man, you really got what it takes to be a doctor. Australia's in for a real fine treat.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972347]Why are you making a big deal out of internet posts? :downs:[/QUOTE] this from someone who just went through a full on rant [editline]10th November 2010[/editline] it's africa, poor kids and warlords

Mane you are such a hypocrite

[QUOTE=Archy;25972351]this from someone who just went through a full on rant [editline]10th November 2010[/editline] it's africa, poor kids and warlords[/QUOTE] If a couple sentences is a rant, I can see why they still give you the books with pictures in them. I'll try and use smaller words and sentences next time. [i]Just for you.[/i] It's funny because you didn't object to the first "rant" I responded to. Maybe it's only an issue when it involves criticisms of white people, instead of black people. Does that cut a little too close to home, for you? [QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972357]Mane you are such a hypocrite[/QUOTE] Let me guess, this is so self evident so you can't even think of a reason to back up your attack on my character. Please give me your name and the schools you plan on applying to just so I can send them all your dazzling internet forum posts.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972347]Why are you making a big deal out of internet posts? :downs: I don't even remember this. Obviously you do so if we want to play that middle school game, clearly you're the one with the obsession. Could you point out this post to me? Even if I did, what's it matter to you? Assuming you ever even got near a medical school with your awful grasp on spelling, grammar, and basic reasoning, why are you interested in medicine? Who said anything about donating money to a corrupt government? Did I? Go back and actually read what I said, if you're cognitively capable of it. A+ man, you really got what it takes to be a doctor. Australia's in for a real fine treat.[/QUOTE] So you remember my posts in the same thread you mentioned Africa in. Great memory mate. And what I said was that Africa can't be helped because they don't want to be helped. Help can come in the form of donations, it was an example refuting your HURP DURP FIELD WORK statement. But why are you making a big deal out of Africa, seriously. And it's the internet, I would put more effort into shit if it was real.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972380]If a couple sentences is a rant, I can see why they still give you the books with pictures in them. I'll try and use smaller words and sentences next time. [i]Just for you.[/i] [/QUOTE] okay sure [quote]It's funny because you didn't object to the first "rant" I responded to. Maybe it's only an issue when it involves criticisms of white people, instead of black people. Does that cut a little too close to home, for you?[/quote] you just said that you aren't ranting then you called your posts rants

[QUOTE=Mane;25972380]If a couple sentences is a rant, I can see why they still give you the books with pictures in them. I'll try and use smaller words and sentences next time. [i]Just for you.[/i] It's funny because you didn't object to the first "rant" I responded to. Maybe it's only an issue when it involves criticisms of white people, instead of black people. Does that cut a little too close to home, for you? Let me guess, this is so self evident so you can't even think of a reason to back up your attack on my character. Please give me your name and the schools you plan on applying to just so I can send them all your dazzling internet forum posts.[/QUOTE] Oh wow run out of argument so make an attack on me and Archy with no other content in your post. I bid you good day, you just lost.

deconfuzzle me

[QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972420]So you remember my posts in the same thread you mentioned Africa in. Great memory mate.[/quote] ...And your point? [quote]And what I said was that Africa can't be helped because they don't want to be helped. Help can come in the form of donations, it was an example refuting your HURP DURP FIELD WORK statement.[/quote] This is the part where I realize you don't actually know what field work means. Beautiful. And you still haven't proven your incredibly generalized statement. I'm waiting ever so patiently on that proof. [quote]But why are you making a big deal out of Africa, seriously.[/quote] I'm not? But even if I was, why is that something so terrible? I'm sorry if I don't go to high school and have really banal things to complain about. Despite all this, you still haven't answer why you care so much about what I post on. Why are you making such a big deal? Does it bother you? Does it strike at some latent white guilt you've desperately tried to repress all these years? If this is true, I will post about Africa a whole lot more now. [quote]And it's the internet, I would put more effort into shit if it was real.[/QUOTE] How convenient! You make incredibly illogical and poorly reasoned points and continue to defend them because you aren't [i]trying[/i]. Why make these points at all then? I'll let you in on a little secret: [i]I'm not trying either.[/i] I wonder how depressing that must be for some of you. [QUOTE=Archy;25972424] you just said that you aren't ranting then you called your posts rants[/QUOTE] I don't expect they teach other uses for quotation marks yet in your grade, do they? [QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972428]Oh wow run out of argument so make an attack on me and Archy with no other content in your post. I bid you good day, you just lost.[/QUOTE] Baby doll, I have so much of an argument left. Sadly, you aren't responding to any of my points and are instead trying to construct really pathetic straw men. And even that's not working. You can try and get the last word if it makes you feel better. But this isn't your middle school locker room, dear.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972461]I'll let you in on a little secret: [i]I'm not trying either.[/i] I wonder how depressing that must be for some of you. [/QUOTE] that's cute

Way to take shit out of context, I'm making no attempt at grammar and spelling because it is the internet. I'm not replying anymore, because all you can do is return questions with the same question, attack people without making an argument, then take shit out of context and act all smug about it when you do. Come back when you know how debating works :smile:

[QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972493]Way to take shit out of context, I'm making no attempt at grammar and spelling because it is the internet. I'm not replying anymore, because all you can do is return questions with the same question, attack people without making an argument, then take shit out of context and act all smug about it when you do. Come back when you know how debating works :smile:[/QUOTE] The irony is mind-shattering. I've responded to and dismantled all your points. Now what you have to do is back and prove a statement like "Africa can't be helped because they don't want to be helped". It's called burden of proof. You make a statement, you have to back it up. Or are you also not making an attempt at debate either because it's the internet? Is "baww bawww why are you making such a big deal out of this bawww baww" the only defense mechanism they teach Australian premed rejects? And on the topic of the wonders of Africa, one of my friends shared this with me recently: [IMG]http://imgur.com/NQvDh.png[/IMG] In one sense, Africa [b]is[/b] a big deal. [url=http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/the-true-size-of-africa/]Link.[/url]

Sorry you didn't deconstruct anything. You just attacked me and then said my argument is shit because of that. And if you can't see Africa is corrupt, except South Africa, then you are blind or misinformed. I'm inclined to lean to the latter. And that is what I said the whole time, until the corruption is gone, Africa can't be helped because they don't want it. Zimbabwe for example. Sorry, you don't know how an argument works, attacking others then saying you win makes about as much sense as me suddenly becoming superman.

pls dont argue thx

mane, you're wasting your time and making yourself look stupid prove me wrong

Mane, let me ask this before I stop because it is late, If i came up to you and acted like an arse saying "Oh baby dear you are a retard let me take you name and try to tell the universities you want to go to that I don't like you on the internet and they shouldn't accept you because of that", would you seriously think that is a mature way to behave? Because I certainly don't EDIT And attacking the other side in an argument and saying that their argument is invalid because of that attack is ad hominem, look it up 2 And it makes your argument look worse because of it [editline]10th November 2010[/editline] 10 minutes to answer a yes or no question, it better be good mane

[QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972578]Sorry you didn't deconstruct anything. You just attacked me and then said my argument is shit because of that.[/quote] I don't need to deconstruct anything if you haven't given me anything to deconstruct. All you go on about is how big of a deal I am making without saying why this is an important discussion to have. You mumble something about corruption in Africa without substantiating any of it while claiming this is something I said. Then you provided a little tidbit about how Africans don't want help but haven't backed that up with any sources. When I point this out, you break down and cry and try to use your victimization in some convoluted attempt to weaken my argument. I say attempt because it hasn't worked so far and it won't ever work. [quote]And if you can't see Africa is corrupt, except South Africa, then you are blind or misinformed. I'm inclined to lean to the latter. And that is what I said the whole time, until the corruption is gone, Africa can't be helped because they don't want it. Zimbabwe for example.[/quote] You're conflating two very different issues and coming up with a conclusion that conveniently fits your narrow worldview. You still haven't proved that Africa doesn't want help. You can say "Zimbabwe for example", but that is essentially meaningless. What exactly about Zimbabwe informs you that the second largest continent in the world doesn't want help and thus, can't be helped? Nothing about your reasoning makes sense. What is telling you that they don't want help? Is it the continuation of brutal, oppressive regimes and corruption? Because of you actually think that represents the will of the vast majority of the population on the African continent (and not the greed of those corrupt politicians, warlords, and the Western corporations that finance them), I think you need to really work on your world history skills as well. [quote]Sorry, you don't know how an argument works, attacking others then saying you win makes about as much sense as me suddenly becoming superman.[/QUOTE] When did I say anything about winning? [QUOTE=Archy;25972606]mane, you're wasting your time and making yourself look stupid prove me wrong[/QUOTE] That's actually the complete opposite of what burden of proof represents :) Congratulations, you also break irony for today.

[QUOTE=Mane;25972720]I don't need to deconstruct anything if you haven't given me anything to deconstruct. All you go on about is how big of a deal I am making without saying why this is an important discussion to have. You mumble something about corruption in Africa without substantiating any of it while claiming this is something I said. Then you provided a little tidbit about how Africans don't want help but haven't backed that up with any sources. When I point this out, you break down and cry and try to use your victimization in some convoluted attempt to weaken my argument. I say attempt because it hasn't worked so far and it won't ever work. You're conflating two very different issues and coming up with a conclusion that conveniently fits your narrow worldview. You still haven't proved that Africa doesn't want help. You can say "Zimbabwe for example", but that is essentially meaningless. What exactly about Zimbabwe informs you that the second largest continent in the world doesn't want help and thus, can't be helped? Nothing about your reasoning makes sense. What is telling you that they don't want help? Is it the continuation of brutal, oppressive regimes and corruption? Because of you actually think that represents the will of the vast majority of the population on the African continent (and not the greed of those corrupt politicians, warlords, and the Western corporations that finance them), I think you need to really work on your world history skills as well. When did I say anything about winning?[/QUOTE] are you from nigeria

What does it matter where I am from? :downs:

[QUOTE=Mane;25972757]What does it matter where I am from? :downs:[/QUOTE] are you

I'd love to go there someday.

[QUOTE=teeheeV2;25972611]Mane, let me ask this before I stop because it is late, If i came up to you and acted like an arse saying "Oh baby dear you are a retard let me take you name and try to tell the universities you want to go to that I don't like you on the internet and they shouldn't accept you because of that", would you seriously think that is a mature way to behave? Because I certainly don't[/quote] [i]Umm it's just the internet wow don't take it so seriously mannnn[/i] How does your own medicine taste? [quote]And attacking the other side in an argument and saying that their argument is invalid because of that attack is ad hominem, look it up And it makes your argument look worse because of it[/quote] Ad homenem's only make your argument look worse if what you are attacking isn't relevant at the issue at hand. Your intelligence and capacity to reason is very relevant when it comes to whether or not you can formulate an idea without drooling. [quote]10 minutes to answer a yes or no question, it better be good mane[/QUOTE] Oh no! We have deadlines on a serious-oh-wait-not-serious internet forum? Make up your mind, boy. [QUOTE=Archy;25972764]are you[/QUOTE] What does it matter? :downs:

[QUOTE=Badballer;25971604]Silent H? First I've heard of that.[/QUOTE] For me it's completely common, the strange thing was realising the H had a sound in other languages (I'm Spanish, we have silent H all the time)