[QUOTE=Sky King;52401339]
Consider moving instead of forcing your lifestyle down other throats?[/QUOTE]
To me it seems those smokers are forcing their lifestyle down her throat instead. With the smoke coming into her room and all.
People smoking in public is like looking for a McDonalds in America; there's one around every corner. As someone with difficulty breathing due to allergies and had a neighbor who would smoke every time I met her, I find it difficult to avoid second hand smoke without saying "fuck it" and just put on a gas mask whenever I go out into the city.
[QUOTE=WhiteGirl88;52401225]I don't think second hand smoke is that bad for you.[/QUOTE]
Dont know about you, but Ive been subjected to second hand smoke from both my parents ever since I could remember. My dad is a realy heavy smoker. At one point he was going through 2 packs a day although he's cut down over the years.
There was a test in school during my last year where they were researching smoking among teens. When I went to take the test it was estimated that I have the lungs of someone who smokes once or twice a week, but I have never smokced a cigar in my life and dont plan to. So no, second hand smoke isnt harmless.
[QUOTE=The golden;52401284]If you're going to openly disregard evidence for no reason other than "Because I think so" then there is no point in continuing to discuss this with you. Might as well be shitposting.[/QUOTE]
Then I truly have an unpopular opinion, and this thread is right for me.
[QUOTE=kilerabv;52401461]Dont know about you, but Ive been sunjected to second hand smoke from both my parents ever since I could remember.
So no, second hand smoke isnt harmless.[/QUOTE]
Your parents doing it over the course of your life isn't the same as The golden being bothered by the smell now and then.
[QUOTE=WhiteGirl88;52401267]And is cigarette smoke the only thing that can cause smoking related diseases, or could you get it from other sources as well?[/quote]
Asbestos isn't the only carcinogen so lets paint walls with it
[quote]I don't really trust the studies that much. I feel they're almost as biased as the the cigarette companies. Neither seem unbiased.[/QUOTE]
they've been replicated by numerous different organizations over decades. One side has come very definitively on top, which is that second-hand smoke is extremely harmful.
[QUOTE=Sky King;52401058]I think all people that think this way shoukd be restricted to a specific wuss apartments away from everybody else.
Stop banning things because you dont personally like it. People smoking in balconys doesnt effect you at all.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever tried to clean nicotine off the walls? It gets into every crevice and is an enormous bitch to clean up. That alone is reason enough to ban it from rental properties.
[QUOTE=WhiteGirl88;52401225]I don't think second hand smoke is that bad for you.[/QUOTE]
I've lived around heavy smokers who think the same way for literally my entire life. I have just as many smoke-related lung issues as they do. Most notably I've always gotten out of breath exceedingly quickly no matter my fitness level and I have a mild smoker's cough from it as well. It's been awhile since my last physical but the last time I had to do that breath test crap I performed far worse than I should have, especially considering I was quite fit at the time. The doctors didn't actually give me any real frame of reference but they said that they would have mistaken me for a fairly heavy smoker myself if I hadn't said I don't smoke.
[QUOTE=Sky King;52401058]Stop banning things because you dont personally like it. People smoking in balconys doesnt effect you at all.[/QUOTE]
Other than the lung cancer because you can't buy a vape, sure.
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[QUOTE=WhiteGirl88;52401225]I don't think second hand smoke is that bad for you.[/QUOTE]
This isn't an unpopular opinion, this is just ignorance.
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Like [I]christ[/I], this should be basic, common knowledge and the fact that it doesn't seem to be is incredibly distressing.
If smokers cant even smoke in their own homes? Where else can they go?
[QUOTE=Sky King;52401642]If smokers cant even smoke in their own homes? Where else can they go?[/QUOTE]
somewhere where the smoke doesn't bother too many people, like on the sidewalk or something.
it's insensitive and a little bit ignorant of me to say this but i'm fine with inconveniencing people for smoking, its a disgusting and completely unhealthy habit that everyone would be better without
[QUOTE=Sky King;52401642]If smokers cant even smoke in their own homes? Where else can they go?[/QUOTE]
Somewhere that's actually your own home and not rented property full of other people
or buy a vape
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May or may not be an unpopular opinion but I don't give a shit about people vaping. There was once a retail store I was working at where every now and then I'd walk into the break room and there was 4 people puffing away on vapes causing a vision-hindering fog, but I didn't give a shit because it smelled like cotton candy and afaik isn't giving me cancer.
The idea that second hand smoke is AS BAD as smoking is ridiculous
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p71R9BJp_Y8]Kevin Michael Richardson[/url] should be the go-to for video game Jokers in the absence of Mark Hamill.
I don't even know how this could be considered an unpopular opinion but it is astonishing how many people fail to realize that if you have nothing to say but terrible things about all of your exes then chances are that the problem is you not them
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52401810]The idea that second hand smoke is AS BAD as smoking is ridiculous[/QUOTE]
It is or is very close to, and has been proven so many many many times. You going to argue against proven facts?
[QUOTE=INH;52401972]It is or is very close to, and has been proven so many many many times. You going to argue against proven facts?[/QUOTE]
Please show these, because it doesn't make sense that a gas is just as harmful when extremely diluted as when concentrated. At the moment, I'm not arguing facts, just your words
[QUOTE=Bathtub;52401756]it's insensitive and a little bit ignorant of me to say this but i'm fine with inconveniencing people for smoking, its a disgusting and completely unhealthy habit that everyone would be better without[/QUOTE]
It's not really insensitive at all considering they negatively impact you in a lot of ways
Chronic exposure to second hand smoke in poorly-ventilated environments is definitely a problem, which is why smoking is banned indoors in many public places. However, if I'm remembering a study I read a while back correctly, the occasional whiff of cigarette smoke (which is far more dilute than the fog of crap that smokers deliver directly to their lungs) is not a significant health problem.
All that doesn't matter because it still smells like shit and I don't want to have anything to do with it. Go smoke somewhere where the smoke can't blow into my home.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52402040]Please show these, because it doesn't make sense that a gas is just as harmful when extremely diluted as when concentrated. At the moment, I'm not arguing facts, just your words[/QUOTE]
But is it 'extremely diluted'?
Also, Wikipedia has a nice article about it
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking[/url]
You know what? You guys make a good point and I was just being arrogant. I forfiet.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;52402163]But is it 'extremely diluted'?
Also, Wikipedia has a nice article about it
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking[/url][/QUOTE]
yes?
[QUOTE=gokiyono;52402163]But is it 'extremely diluted'?
Also, Wikipedia has a nice article about it
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking[/url][/QUOTE]
Catching the occasional whiff of cigarette smoke while walking along the sidewalk isn't going to cause much health issues, if at all, unless you are asthmatic or something. The exposure time is too short and the smoke is rapidly diluted within a few metres of the smoker. The problem arises when you're constantly exposed to secondhand smoke, for example if your neighbour smokes on their balcony and the smoke constantly permeates your home, or if you work in an establishment that allows smoking indoors. It's why smoking has been banned in many indoors public spaces.
Chocolate milk is gross
[QUOTE=Topzombie;52402408]Chocolate milk is gross[/QUOTE]
This is the most wrong opinion I've ever heard what are you an alien
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;52402246]yes?[/QUOTE]
[quote=American Cancer Society][B]Why is secondhand smoke a problem?[/B]
Secondhand smoke (SHS) has the same harmful chemicals that smokers inhale. [B]There’s no safe level of exposure for secondhand smoke [/B](SHS).
[B]Secondhand smoke causes cancer[/B]
Secondhand smoke is known to cause cancer. It has more than 7,000 chemicals, including at least 70 that can cause cancer. SHS causes lung cancer – even in people who have never smoked. There’s also some evidence suggesting it might be linked in adults to cancers of the:
Larynx (voice box)
Pharynx (throat)
Nasal sinuses
Brain
Bladder
Rectum
Stomach
Breast
It’s possibly linked in children to:
Lymphoma
Leukemia
Liver cancer
Brain tumors
[B]Secondhand smoke causes other diseases and death[/B]
Secondhand smoke can be harmful in many ways. For instance, it affects the heart and blood vessels, increasing the risk of heart attack and stroke in non-smokers. Some studies have linked SHS to mental and emotional changes, too. For instance, some studies have shown that exposure to SHS is linked to symptoms of depression. More research is needed to better understand the link between SHS and mental health.
[B]Where is secondhand smoke a problem?[/B]
You should be especially concerned about exposure to secondhand smoke (SHS) in these places:
[U]At work[/U]
The workplace is a major source of SHS exposure for many adults.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), federal agencies responsible for health and safety in the workplace, recognize there are no known safe levels of SHS and recommend that exposures be reduced to the lowest possible levels. The Surgeon General has said that smoke-free workplace policies are the only way to prevent SHS exposure at work. Separating smokers from non-smokers, cleaning the air, and ventilating the building cannot prevent exposure if people still smoke inside the building. An extra bonus of workplace smoking restrictions, other than protecting non-smokers, is that they may also encourage smokers to smoke less, or even quit.
In public places
Everyone can be exposed to SHS in public places where smoking is allowed, such as some restaurants, shopping centers, public transportation, [B]parks[/B], and schools. The Surgeon General has suggested people choose smoke-free restaurants and businesses, and let owners of businesses that are not smoke-free know that SHS is harmful to your family’s health.
Public places where children go are a special area of concern. Make sure that your children’s daycare centers and schools are smoke-free.
Some businesses might be afraid to ban smoking, but there’s no strong evidence that going smoke-free is bad for business.
[U]At home[/U]
Making your home smoke-free may be one of the most important things you can do for the health of your family. Any family member can develop health problems related to SHS. Children’s growing bodies are especially sensitive to the toxins in SHS. And think about it: we spend more time at home than anywhere else. A smoke-free home protects your family, your guests, and even your pets.
Multi-unit housing where smoking is allowed is a special concern and a subject of research. Tobacco smoke can move through air ducts, wall and floor cracks, elevator shafts, and along crawl spaces to contaminate units on other floors, even those that are far from the smoke. SHS cannot be controlled with ventilation, air cleaning, or by separating smokers from non-smokers.
[U]In the car[/U]
Americans spend a great deal of time in cars, and if someone smokes there, the toxins can build up quickly – even when the windows are open or the air-conditioner is on. Again, this can be especially harmful to children.
In response to this fact, many medical expert groups have been working to encourage people to make their cars, as well as their homes, smoke-free. Some states and cities even have laws that ban smoking in the car if carrying passengers under a certain age or weight. And many facilities such as city buildings, malls, schools, colleges, and hospitals ban smoking on their grounds, including their parking lots.
[B]What about lingering smoking odors?[/B]
There’s no research in the medical literature as of yet showing that lingering tobacco smoke odors or residuals from it cause cancer in people. Research does show that particles from secondhand tobacco smoke can settle in dust and on surfaces and remain there long after the smoke is gone. Some studies suggest the particles can last for months. Even though it’s no longer in the form of smoke, researchers often call this thirdhand smoke (THS) or residual tobacco smoke.
Particles that settle out from tobacco smoke have been shown to combine with gases in the air to form cancer-causing compounds that settle onto surfaces. For instance, NNK and PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons), carcinogens that are known to cause lung cancer, have been found in dust samples taken from the homes of smokers. Research has also shown that thirdhand smoke can damage human DNA in cell cultures and impact blood clotting in lab animals.
Though it’s not yet clear if such smoke residue can cause cancer, any effects would probably be small compared with direct exposure to SHS. Still, the compounds may be stirred up and inhaled with other house dust, and may also be accidentally taken in through the mouth. Because of this, any risk the compounds pose is probably greater for babies and children who play on the floor and often put things in their mouths.
No actual cancer risk has been measured at this time, but the health risks of THS are an active area of research.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/tobacco-and-cancer/secondhand-smoke.html[/url]
The concept of desert is entirely meaningless, because it implies the existence of a higher moral authority meting out judgements on whether the outcome of an action was deserved or not. Saying "she was hit by the car because she crossed the road without looking both ways" is a good statement, because it's a logical explanation of the situation. Saying "she deserved to get hit by the car because she crossed the road without looking both ways" is meaningless, and only serves to give the person saying it a smug sense of moral superiority.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52402591]The concept of [B]desert[/B] is entirely meaningless, because it implies the existence of a higher moral authority meting out judgements on whether the outcome of an action was deserved or not. Saying "she was hit by the car because she crossed the road without looking both ways" is a good statement, because it's a logical explanation of the situation. Saying "she deserved to get hit by the car because she crossed the road without looking both ways" is meaningless, and only serves to give the person saying it a smug sense of moral superiority.[/QUOTE]
[t]https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2016/03/21/10/44/desert-1270345_960_720.jpg[/t]
:wideeye:
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;52402620]:wideeye:[/QUOTE]
See [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_(philosophy)"]here[/url]. It's where the term "just deserts" comes from.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;52402622]See [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_(philosophy)"]here[/url]. It's where the term "just deserts" comes from.[/QUOTE]
oh shit
everyday's a school day
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;52402620][t]https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2016/03/21/10/44/desert-1270345_960_720.jpg[/t]
:wideeye:[/QUOTE]
[thumb]https://i.imgur.com/SKauskj.png[/thumb]
enjoy prison nerd? You desert it.
edit: n..not the escape kind of desert tho
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