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When it comes to science fiction, I have never really been a fan of super serious science fiction. I'm not very savvy on the subject, but I find myself love the type of science fiction seen in Earthbound, Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy, Guardians of the Galaxy (the movie, not the comics) and maybe even Destiny (with Destiny really pushing it to the border of being too serious). Basically universes where there is high-tech, alien races and such, but people still engage in mundane things and live normal lives despite their world being very wild, and there are weird but not exactly horror-like alien creatures. Kind of like in Earthbound where there are stuff like trees with eyes that move and burst into flames when they're killed or the flying objects that attack you with psychic powers and that one boss made of some sort of liquid substance whose only way to be defeated was by using a jar of honey. Is there a name for such genre?

[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52532833]Beer is awful[/QUOTE] I tried a bit of beer as a child and i thought it was disgusting. I tried it years later as an adult and i still thought it was fucking disgusting. It wasn't until i started trying things that weren't beer that i started enjoying it more. Also, during my high school years, i knew someone who drank beer with coke. [I]Beer with coke.[/I] Because they didn't like the been. Even then, i asked "Why don't you try something sweeter, like an apple cider or something?"

[QUOTE=megafat;52534956]I tried a bit of beer as a child and i thought it was disgusting. I tried it years later as an adult and i still thought it was fucking disgusting. It wasn't until i started trying things that weren't beer that i started enjoying it more. Also, during my high school years, i knew someone who drank beer with coke. [I]Beer with coke.[/I] Because they didn't like the been. Even then, i asked "Why don't you try something sweeter, like an apple cider or something?"[/QUOTE] At least it's not [I]wine[/I] with coke like the Spaniards do. [B]The horror.[/B]

every single OS sucks complete dick, all in their own special ways

[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52535058]every single OS sucks complete dick, all in their own special ways[/QUOTE] Exept for templeos

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52535176]Exept for templeos[/QUOTE] obligatory reminder [QUOTE]The IDE that comes with TempleOS supports several features, such as embedding images in code. It uses a non-standard text format which has support for hypertext links, images and 3D meshes to be embedded into what are otherwise regular ASCII files. One can have, for example, a spinning 3D model of a tank as a comment in source code.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;52534215]I don't get why so many people are against race/gender/sexuality swapping comic book characters. And you can't argue with any of these people, they are always right.[/QUOTE] Why the fuck are you changing already established characters for no reason other than gender diversity, when you could create new heroes and stories and have the same result?

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;52535295]Why the fuck are you changing already established characters for no reason other than gender diversity, when you could create new heroes and stories and have the same result?[/QUOTE] Why not? Why do you want to deny creators control over their work? [editline]3rd August 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52534513]What's the deal with "forced diversity"? I don't get it. Half the time, it's supposedly stifling creativity by forcing politics into something and not letting creators do as they wish. The other half, it's the fans who end up forcing politics into it and chastising creators for doing as they wish. It's a fucking joke[/QUOTE] I'm not so sure everyone who agreed with this understands what I'm saying. I'm not complaining about forced diversity. I'm complaining about the reactions to it.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52535303]Why not? Why do you want to deny creators control over their work?[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone here wants that. If creators take their work in a stupid direction, though, I don't see how it's problematic to point it out.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52535303]Why not? Why do you want to deny creators control over their work[/QUOTE] Because a lot of the time it's them giving in to such pressures, otherwise there would be no reason to change already established characters I don't care about stories where the protagonists can change and so can be different people with different backgrounds, that's fine, but if it's one of a kind, it makes no sense to suddenly turn it into someone else

[QUOTE=Clovis;52535340]i was circumcised very early and i couldnt give less of a shit to be honest. due to not memorizing anything before being circumcised its just like this is how ive always been so i dont particularly feel like im missing out on having a non circumcised penis or like ive lost something, cause its been this way since i can remember[/QUOTE] Good for you. Now tell that to those who do regret having been circumcised.

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;52535323]Because a lot of the time it's them giving in to such pressures, otherwise there would be no reason to change already established characters I don't care about stories where the protagonists can change and so can be different people with different backgrounds, that's fine, but if it's one of a kind, it makes no sense to suddenly turn it into someone else[/QUOTE] They are not being turned into someone else. They are just black, it always end up being just a detail really. I just don't think characters are so sacred they cannot be changed up a little bit sometimes, especially when it comes to comic book characters. The movie characters are never 100% true to their comic book counterparts.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52535303]Why not? Why do you want to deny creators control over their work? [/QUOTE] Oh fucking please. It's not their work, they're changing someone else's work. Why should I respect their decision to change something I care about when they don't respect the thing they're changing. I fucking despise this "Pfft, [i]why not[/i] change everything." attitude people have, especially when they're using it to brush off legitimate criticism.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52535377]Oh fucking please. It's not their work, they're changing someone else's work. Why should I respect their decision to change something I care about when they don't respect the thing they're changing. I fucking despise this "Pfft, [i]why not[/i] change everything." attitude people have, especially when they're using it to brush off legitimate criticism.[/QUOTE] You're only changing someone else's work if you go through the source material. If you're adapting someone else's work, then that is very much yours.

[QUOTE=Clovis;52535380]how can you have regrets about something you didnt voluntarily do? poor choice of wording[/QUOTE] You don't see the problem there? You don't see the problem in parents cutting out parts of their childrens bodies for no reason other than because tradition?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;52535414]You're only changing someone else's work if you go through the source material. If you're adapting someone else's work, then that is very much yours.[/QUOTE] Alright look, for real here. I'm using the last of my energy before bed to explain my position on this. Growing up I was an amateur writer and I took quite a few classes in creative writing. One of the things which I had repeated to me constantly is that you have to justify your writing decisions. A character's design, in how they look, act, and what they believe, are all supposed to fit within whatever world you create. One of the things I was taught was that you should write backwards to ingrain the character in the world. Let's take Peter Parker, Spiderman, as an example. Spidey tries tirelessly to protect the people of New York, where other heroes would leave the work for the cops because it isn't 'important enough'. Why? Because Peter feels responsible for Uncle Ben's death at the hands of a car jacker. Why? Because Peter saw that car jacker steal some money earlier but refused to stop him, despite having clear opportunity and ability to do so. Why? Because he wanted a degree of petty revenge against the people who were refusing to pay him for the work he did entertaining as a wrestler. Peter gave in to his petty, selfish anger and it resulted in the death of one of his closest family members. Everything he does is in service of making up for his mistake to Uncle Ben. Though that is leaving out details, and Peter is a good person beyond feeling a need to make up for past failures. My point is, ever since I was young I've had it hammered in to me that when writing you absolutely must justify your decisions through your writing. You can't just do something for no reason because it takes the reader (in my case) out of the story, it comes across as shallow at best and completely stupid at worst. It's a large part of why fanfiction is so often among the worst writing you can see, it's just shit the writer thought would be cool with no justification. That's why when I see "Who cares?" or "Why not change it?" I get pissed off. It's essentially saying that you don't care about the very fabric of the story. You're not justifying why these changes [i]should[/i] be made, you're just asserting that change is good with no reasoning. If the details of a character don't matter then the characters don't matter, and if the characters don't matter then the story doesn't matter. Also, more on the petty side, seeing people say "Who cares?" to people who care as a dismissal pisses me off. It adds nothing to a discussion and just serves to rile people up.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52535514]Alright look, for real here. I'm using the last of my energy before bed to explain my position on this. Growing up I was an amateur writer and I took quite a few classes in creative writing. One of the things which I had repeated to me constantly is that you have to justify your writing decisions. A character's design, in how they look, act, and what they believe, are all supposed to fit within whatever world you create. One of the things I was taught was that you should write backwards to ingrain the character in the world. Let's take Peter Parker, Spiderman, as an example. Spidey tries tirelessly to protect the people of New York, where other heroes would leave the work for the cops because it isn't 'important enough'. Why? Because Peter feels responsible for Uncle Ben's death at the hands of a car jacker. Why? Because Peter saw that car jacker steal some money earlier but refused to stop him, despite having clear opportunity and ability to do so. Why? Because he wanted a degree of petty revenge against the people who were refusing to pay him for the work he did entertaining as a wrestler. Peter gave in to his petty, selfish anger and it resulted in the death of one of his closest family members. Everything he does is in service of making up for his mistake to Uncle Ben. Though that is leaving out details, and Peter is a good person beyond feeling a need to make up for past failures. My point is, ever since I was young I've had it hammered in to me that when writing you absolutely must justify your decisions through your writing. You can't just do something for no reason because it takes the reader (in my case) out of the story, it comes across as shallow at best and completely stupid at worst. It's a large part of why fanfiction is so often among the worst writing you can see, it's just shit the writer thought would be cool with no justification. That's why when I see "Who cares?" or "Why not change it?" I get pissed off. It's essentially saying that you don't care about the very fabric of the story. You're not justifying why these changes [i]should[/i] be made, you're just asserting that change is good with no reasoning. If the details of a character don't matter then the characters don't matter, and if the characters don't matter then the story doesn't matter. Also, more on the petty side, seeing people say "Who cares?" to people who care as a dismissal pisses me off. It adds nothing to a discussion and just serves to rile people up.[/QUOTE] Then what would justify a character being white in the first place? Shallow and stupid is thinking that changing the color of a character is going to matter in their development and contribution to the story.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;52535514]Alright look, for real here. I'm using the last of my energy before bed to explain my position on this. Growing up I was an amateur writer and I took quite a few classes in creative writing. One of the things which I had repeated to me constantly is that you have to justify your writing decisions. A character's design, in how they look, act, and what they believe, are all supposed to fit within whatever world you create. One of the things I was taught was that you should write backwards to ingrain the character in the world. Let's take Peter Parker, Spiderman, as an example. Spidey tries tirelessly to protect the people of New York, where other heroes would leave the work for the cops because it isn't 'important enough'. Why? Because Peter feels responsible for Uncle Ben's death at the hands of a car jacker. Why? Because Peter saw that car jacker steal some money earlier but refused to stop him, despite having clear opportunity and ability to do so. Why? Because he wanted a degree of petty revenge against the people who were refusing to pay him for the work he did entertaining as a wrestler. Peter gave in to his petty, selfish anger and it resulted in the death of one of his closest family members. Everything he does is in service of making up for his mistake to Uncle Ben. Though that is leaving out details, and Peter is a good person beyond feeling a need to make up for past failures. My point is, ever since I was young I've had it hammered in to me that when writing you absolutely must justify your decisions through your writing. You can't just do something for no reason because it takes the reader (in my case) out of the story, it comes across as shallow at best and completely stupid at worst. It's a large part of why fanfiction is so often among the worst writing you can see, it's just shit the writer thought would be cool with no justification. That's why when I see "Who cares?" or "Why not change it?" I get pissed off. It's essentially saying that you don't care about the very fabric of the story. You're not justifying why these changes [i]should[/i] be made, you're just asserting that change is good with no reasoning. If the details of a character don't matter then the characters don't matter, and if the characters don't matter then the story doesn't matter. Also, more on the petty side, seeing people say "Who cares?" to people who care as a dismissal pisses me off. It adds nothing to a discussion and just serves to rile people up.[/QUOTE] gj wasting that last bit of energy on one huge ass strawman i've never said anything that goes against this. i asked him a fucking question. had he answered that integral parts of a character being changed is bad, then i would've obviously agreed, just as i agree with what you said here.

I prefer small butts to big butts

I prefer boobs over butts.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;52535823]I prefer boobs over butts.[/QUOTE] I dunno why anyone would even like something so shitty to begin with.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;52535823]I prefer boobs over butts.[/QUOTE] TBH, can't have the one without the other.

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52535690]I prefer small butts to big butts[/QUOTE] Small boobs generally look better than big boobs, same goes for butts.

If you got a butt cherish it.

There is no such thing as "forced diversity".

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;52536089]There is no such thing as "forced diversity".[/QUOTE] It depends on the studios or creators intent. When [I]all[/I] criticism of the 2016 Ghostbusters was brushed off as 'sexism' when it's pretty obvious that they hired women just because they're women, then yeah, that's pretty forced. Especially when nobody complained about the cartoons having female, black, and even disabled characters in the cartoons and comic books.

[QUOTE=megafat;52536326]It depends on the studios or creators intent. When [I]all[/I] criticism of the 2016 Ghostbusters was brushed off as 'sexism' when it's pretty obvious that they hired women just because they're women, then yeah, that's pretty forced. Especially when nobody complained about the cartoons having female, black, and even disabled characters in the cartoons and comic books.[/QUOTE] Ghostbusters is most primarily a movie series though. Very few people would care about what's in the cartoons and comics.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52536334]Ghostbusters is most primarily a movie series though. Very few people would care about what's in the cartoons and comics.[/QUOTE] It was an example of a studio's/creator's intent, not really a statement about Ghostbusters as a whole. An overwhelming majority of creator's/studio's don't go into it a movie going "We've got to have every race, gender, and LGBT type!" Another example is George Lucas' Red Tails, where George(?) called studios racist for releasing his movie when it was just shit.

[QUOTE=megafat;52536345]It was an example of a studio's/creator's intent, not really a statement about Ghostbusters as a whole. An overwhelming majority of creator's/studio's don't go into it a movie going "We've got to have every race, gender, and LGBT type!" Another example is George Lucas' Red Tails, where George(?) called studios racist for releasing his movie when it was just shit.[/QUOTE] Do we know whether that was really their intent? It's been awhile. I remember them being proud about being a staff with a large amount of women (as it's out of the usual,) but not them defending themselves solely with "SEXISM!" It wasn't even diversity in the way you describe it, since for the leads it was just three white women and one black woman. I think you're just plain being unfair and are working from a predetermined conclusion formed from how the shitshow went down on the internet.

[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;52536089]There is no such thing as "forced diversity".[/QUOTE] That is a damn lie