the walking dead is the worst thing to happen to Telltale
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;52572409]Season 1 was near perfect tho[/QUOTE]
I liked it, but I feel that ever since it came out telltale has been [I]desperate[/I] to recreate season 1's greatest moments without realizing what made those moments so great, and ever since it was released TT's games have just been getting progressively worse.
with the exception of Wolf Among Us and Tales from the Borderlands, of course.
I feel like I'm the only one who kinda likes Telltale's Back To The Future because nobody else talks about it.
[QUOTE=megafat;52573332]I feel like I'm the only one who kinda likes Telltale's Back To The Future because nobody else talks about it.[/QUOTE]
I kinda feel like the voice actor for Marty in that game did a pretty good job even though he wasn't Michael Fox.
Defacing or destroying Confederate monuments (dedicated to traitors and monsters, by the way) is not the same as erasing history about the Confederacy.
...Rick and Morty isn't funny. I've watched 4 episodes, never laughed once(not kidding.). I get the humor, I like how creative it is but I don't like the characters or the art style :(
Sorry, I guess the show isn't for me.
I'm not a particularly huge fan of killing Nazis (Although it'd be less of a problem for me if it's in a situation where said nazis are directly threatening people with armor, brandished guns, and running people over just like what happened with the rally. In that case, fair enough) or legally making them into second-class citizens even though I think their beliefs are hot garbage, but considering the circumstances that led to this point and potentially beyond, I can see where the people advocating that sort of thing are coming from even though I'm probably nowhere close to being ready to easily agree with it.
[QUOTE=TAU!;52574290]Defacing or destroying Confederate monuments (dedicated to traitors and monsters, by the way) is not the same as erasing history about the Confederacy.[/QUOTE]
I find it hilarious when Americans accuse secessionists of being traitors, considering the reason they're an actual country in the first place is they did the exact same thing. The "War for Independence" would have been called the "American Civil War" had the English won.
There are many ways to criticize the Confederates, but being traitors isn't really one if you don't want to be hypocritical.
Leftpunch is [B]much, much[/B] more annoying than Rightpunch.
They bring their unwanted, unneeded political commentary to like every thread and section, even including lmaopics where zero point zero percent of people want to see the word nazi unless it's jontron.
It doesn't help that they copy and paste every single political video from Reddit that comes out (Dead Kennedys and that "Svastika" vid)
[QUOTE=_Axel;52574894]I find it hilarious when Americans accuse secessionists of being traitors, considering the reason they're an actual country in the first place is they did the exact same thing. The "War for Independence" would have been called the "American Civil War" had the English won.
There are many ways to criticize the Confederates, but being traitors isn't really one if you don't want to be hypocritical.[/QUOTE] We were a colony though? We weren't an equal member of the UK, they didn't use that nomenclature for other revolts. We wouldn't call the haitians traitors to france.
Most of the big confederate states were with us at the start, and they honestly had more rights than the northern states with the legislature and electoral college being boosted in their favour. As an independent country Texas even directly asked to join the US.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52575090]We were a colony though? We weren't an equal member of the UK, they didn't use that nomenclature for other revolts. We wouldn't call the haitians traitors to france.
Most of the big confederate states were with us at the start, and they honestly had more rights than the northern states with the legislature and electoral college being boosted in their favour. As an independent country Texas even directly asked to join the US.[/QUOTE]
If they were an equal member, how does that make them traitors? Would a country leaving the EU be a traitor? The UK were in a similarly privileged position before they decided to leave, and we don't go around calling them traitors.
Why shouldn't members of a union be allowed to leave it?
[QUOTE=Stroheim;52575049]Leftpunch is [B]much, much[/B] more annoying than Rightpunch.[/quote]
Correction, [I]Liberal[/I]punch may or may not be more annoying than Rightpunch. There aren't very many actual leftists on this website and they generally aren't very well received. There are still users that knee-jerk whenever communism/socialism is brought up, and stuff that would be uncontroversial in "left"punch are instead always argued about in SH. The amount of (thankfully decreasing) times I see the horseshoe theory brought up, as well as lingering trans/homophobia, and coddling of literal Nazis and "but what about their free speech" has shown me that FP is not a left-wing hivemind at all.
[quote]They bring their unwanted, unneeded political commentary to like every thread and section, even including lmaopics where zero point zero percent of people want to see the word nazi unless it's jontron.[/quote]
Speak for yourself. If that content wasn't wanted in Lmaopics, it would be rated dumb and other content like it wouldn't be posted.
[quote]It doesn't help that they copy and paste every single political video from Reddit that comes out (Dead Kennedys and that "Svastika" vid)[/QUOTE]
Literally, a few political videos are posted during notable events and it's enough to upset you? It's not video essays on left-wing ideology being posted or anything, it's zeitgeist stuff relevant because of current events.
This forum has a really bad snipe infestation. You come up with a half decent argument? Boom doesn't matter because some fine fellow comes up with a single sentence that says you are totally wrong because reasons. I know these posts should be ignored but the sheer volume of them in polidicks and SH are baffling.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52575296]If they were an equal member, how does that make them traitors? Would a country leaving the EU be a traitor? The UK were in a similarly privileged position before they decided to leave, and we don't go around calling them traitors.
Why shouldn't members of a union be allowed to leave it?[/QUOTE]
Yes, you could consider the UK leaving the EU traitors.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to do it though. Especially a weaker union like the EU.
But I'm curious what a country would have to do to be a traitor in your eyes. Willingly joining a union that very clearly has no process for leaving it, and then leaving it because of assumptions (lincoln said he wouldn't get rid of slavery,) seizing a bunch of federal property, and then initiating the war themselves apparently isn't enough.
[QUOTE=_Axel;52574894]I find it hilarious when Americans accuse secessionists of being traitors, considering the reason they're an actual country in the first place is they did the exact same thing. The "War for Independence" would have been called the "American Civil War" had the English won.
There are many ways to criticize the Confederates, but being traitors isn't really one if you don't want to be hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
Let's ignore the English, considering what I stated had absolutely [i]nothing[/i] to do with them. Also, context is everything! The Confederacy sought to take away more and more of state's rights (including Northern states rights to oppose slavery) in order to maintain slavery as the lifeblood in their economy, even after it had been abolished in northern states. This definitely isn't a case of "the same thing" at all, if you know anything about American history.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52575471]Yes, you could consider the UK leaving the EU traitors.[/quote]
Kinda takes the weight and meaning behind the term out, doesn't it? If it's an adjective you'd put alongside "monsters" I'd expect a more grave definition than that.
[QUOTE=TAU!;52575719]Let's ignore the English, considering what I stated had absolutely [i]nothing[/i] to do with them.[/quote]
So wanting to leave the unions has nothing to do with them being traitors? If wanting out is part of your argument then the war for Independence can be mentioned for comparison's sake.
[Quote]Also, context is everything! The Confederacy sought to take away more and more of state's rights (including Northern states rights to oppose slavery) in order to maintain slavery as the lifeblood in their economy, even after it had been abolished in northern states. This definitely isn't a case of "the same thing" at all, if you know anything about American history.[/QUOTE]
And what does that have to do with treason?
The flat earth society should literally be renamed to "the science fuckers"
[QUOTE=_Axel;52576276]So wanting to leave the unions has nothing to do with them being traitors? If wanting out is part of your argument then the war for Independence can be mentioned for comparison's sake.[/quote]
Sure, leaving a union could have a party labeled "traitors", but the context behind their leaving is what really puts meaning into why they're considered as such.
[quote]And what does that have to do with treason?[/QUOTE]
Can't you read? The confederacy sought to prevent other states from having the ability to abolish slavery, going as far as to threatening splitting the country in half and creating its own gimped state. If trying to supersede the federal government in this scenario in order to hijack the country and maintain slavery as a staple of their economy (and culture) and [i]also[/i] isn't an example of treason, then I don't know how to explain treason to you.
[QUOTE=Stroheim;52575049]Leftpunch is [B]much, much[/B] more annoying than Rightpunch.
They bring their unwanted, unneeded political commentary to like every thread and section, even including lmaopics where zero point zero percent of people want to see the word nazi unless it's jontron.
It doesn't help that they copy and paste every single political video from Reddit that comes out (Dead Kennedys and that "Svastika" vid)[/QUOTE]
Well of course a right-leaning user would think that. But considering the rest of your post you seem to be taking offense to the fact people are up in arms about literal Nazis killing people in the US. So would you like to elaborate on your exact problem? Because at the moment it's looking like you're annoyed that people are shitting on Nazis which I'd like to think isn't the actual case.
[QUOTE=Shirt.;52575459]This forum has a really bad snipe infestation. You come up with a half decent argument? Boom doesn't matter because some fine fellow comes up with a single sentence that says you are totally wrong because reasons. I know these posts should be ignored but the sheer volume of them in polidicks and SH are baffling.[/QUOTE]
You must read a very different version of Polidicks and SH than I do because those snipes you're referring to are typically only used against specific users who are known not to actually be there for debate or people who have already been argued with and it failed. The majority of those threads are actually spent attempting to debate people. Of course when the people you're debating are the sort to constantly shift blame with bullshit whaboutisms or simply ignoring what's inconvenient to their argument it's understandable people would get frustrated and snipe at them over it.
Strangely enough there's a lot of people here who are incredibly frustrated about the level of intellectual dishonesty far too many people are showing in debate here and have very little patience for it anymore.
We don't really have to keep literally every single piece of history in museums, not everything has the same historical value and particularness that warrants money spent on preservation.
Especially relatively modern history such as confederate history, where there's a lot of it that is being preserved, and the history itself is already very well documented. The tragedy of ISIS destroying ancient cities isn't that they're cool things to have, but it's that they're literally destroying the means we need to use to piece together our past, making that knowledge potentially gone forever.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52577919]We don't really have to keep literally every single piece of history in museums, not everything has the same historical value and particularness that warrants money spent on preservation.[/quote]
As someone who is planning on going into Archaeology, this is the exact opposite feeling I've gotten from my studies - it's usually the stuff that people feel isn't worth keeping that are the most telling about a culture's lifestyle and history.
Stuff like those statues and their plaques I can definitely see being useful for a historian in 50, 100, 200 years researching the social history of the periods that they were erected, and the periods they're taken down.
Also, the fact we have records of something now is no guarantee that it will exist in the future, so all efforts should be made to preserve as much as possible. And yes, there are lines drawn in collections of what that museum can or will take in, generally limited by the scope of their collections and budget. I know this from first hand experience. I work at an art museum, I volunteer at a historic house museum (I'm actually on the Collections Committee there), and I'm going to be studying at a third (and I know multiple individuals who have worked there in the past). [I]But that doesn't mean that an effort should not be made to preserve as much as possible.[/I]
Sonic was never cool or a good game
[QUOTE=J!NX;52578440]Sonic was never cool or a good game[/QUOTE]
if you don't think sonic 2 is the best game evah made then you da worst guy evah made
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52578450]if you don't think sonic 2 is the best game evah made then you da worst guy evah made[/QUOTE]
My names is J!NX and I'm the worst guy ever made
also I hate Sonic 2
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;52578450]if you don't think sonic 2 is the best game evah made then you da worst guy evah made[/QUOTE]
Talking strictly platformers I'd rather play SMB or SMW. Sonic has that weird juxtaposition where the player character has momentum and has to build speed and maintain it, but every two seconds there's something you have to dodge or avoid so that your first time around you can't actually make use of those mechanics and sometimes have to backtrack to make it through a loop or up a wall or something. Mario's always felt easier to control and platform with to me, because all I have to do is hold a button and I'm moving fast.
some fairly unstructured rambles about this culture war shit going on.. This is probably not hugely unpopular but since only extremist views get talked about nowadays it feels unpopular and so I feel I have to rant.
I'll condemn these Nazis and Alt-right manbabies as much as anyone, they're vile separatists stuck in an identitarian victim complex echo chamber and are an awful group of people who despite claiming to "save the West" are pretty fucking anti-Western in many ways ie everyone is equal, people have inherent value, equality of opportunity, they don't respect free speech etc and they're a legitimate threat to society. However...
The media and left-leaning people in general (for clarity im fairly left myself) need to start talking about this on the other side. Groups like Antifa and Black Bloc are also radical authoritarians who are anti-free speech and incite violence wherever they go, destroying property (see the G20, the irony of destroying the workplaces of your average citizen when they're commies claiming to help the proletariat would be funny if it wasn't so grim), attacking journalists, and they really do seem to hate Western culture. They're vile culture warriors who create a narrative of victimhood and oppression to further their agenda, which is not one of freedom and equality but of power. Btw people like Jared Taylor, an actual high up member of the Alt-Right who has been around long before all this, says they love these people because they drive more people to the right and to nationalism. Go figure.
Sure that dude ran down a bunch of people at Charlottesville (fucking disgusting, obviously) but he has been condemned by basically everyone on the right. It was a matter of time before someone died at one of these rallies and honestly it's pure luck the left haven't killed like.. A lot of people so far. Bike locks, bottles filled with concrete, baseball bats, bricks, flag poles, you name it. They've seriously hurt a TON of people (including lots of journalists-- yet to see the right fuck up a journalist and destroy their gear). Honestly I'm amazed they haven't killed anyone. Anyway this dude in the car is being used as a figurehead of the ideology of the right. But, as I said, pure luck that it was the right that drew first blood at these events. If the left killed someone, you [I]know[/I] the media would separate them from the ideology. Just a bad apple. But death seems to be about where they draw the line since they love fighting. Remember that Punch A Nazi shit lol? These radical lefties think ideological violence is 100% justified (on their side). And if you disagree? NAZI. YOU GET PUNCHED. They go to these rallies to fight Nazis. Problem is, to them a Nazi is anyone who isn't hard left. But, when they do this, it doesn't even get reported by mainstream media. This stuff also mostly goes down at legally organised rallies or speaking events, where Antifa show up without invitation and instigate a riot, then the media calls them protesters defending themselves, saying "oh the Nazis and Alt-Right showed up and attacked us" like nope, right wingers are not all racist and the Alt Right are a far smaller movement than what people think (They're just good at marketing). Unless you're a radical leftist and look at people like fucking Gavin McGinnes or Jordan Peterson as Nazis lmao, because that both justifies the inherent victim complex of their Neo-Marxist ideology [I]and[/I] justifies their violence. Or even fucking Tim Pool and Dave Rubin being reported as Alt-Right white supremacists?? (with people genuinely out to kill Tim Pool when he was in Venezuela, it seems a miracle he escaped that country alive and unharmed) They're fucking liberals. They're just not in an echo chamber and want discussion. But that is not allowed by the radicals on either side. (The right are just as bad for not talking to the left, and it is mostly moderate lefties who try to get discourse going. You do have reasonable people on the moderate right like Ben Shapiro who are wanting discourse too though)
I'm sick of these ideologues thinking they know what is right for everyone, that because they have this ideology they are correct and anything that goes against their agenda is an evil SJW or Alt-Right Nazi. I'm so sick of identity politics on both ends, be it victim complex lefties thinking society is structured to deliberately oppress them and that all white people, men, straight and cis people are evil (when in fact the mainstream media actually clearly support leftist ideology and don't acknowledge bad shit that comes from the left), or on the right with their race realism, that Western culture is white culture, wanting their fucking ethno-state because there's a "white genocide" while they also probably deny the holocaust and talk shit about Jews. It's all ideological bs that just serves to justify the ends of either team.
I'm fucking tired of it all. Both sides need to wake up and realise the world is a complex beast that works on many levels with many intricacies, being affected by all kinds of different things all the time. All the bad shit in the world isn't down to racist whites and it's not all down to stupid blacks or Jews. Grow the fuck up, idiots.
I think its just because the worst of Antifa has been non-critical injuries, dumpster fires, and smashed and vandalized storefronts, where as Nazism, nationalism, white supremacism et al conjures up images of the greatest conflict in human history, where Western nations (and Russia) aligned to defeat an autocrat who made mass genocide a systematic aspect of his government.
I don't like antifa and I've said as much on these boards but I really can't blame people for seeing the far-right as the bigger threat. They objectively are more dangerous, based on what they have done historically and today.
[editline]16th August 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=bdd458;52578370]As someone who is planning on going into Archaeology, this is the exact opposite feeling I've gotten from my studies - it's usually the stuff that people feel isn't worth keeping that are the most telling about a culture's lifestyle and history.
Stuff like those statues and their plaques I can definitely see being useful for a historian in 50, 100, 200 years researching the social history of the periods that they were erected, and the periods they're taken down.
Also, the fact we have records of something now is no guarantee that it will exist in the future, so all efforts should be made to preserve as much as possible. And yes, there are lines drawn in collections of what that museum can or will take in, generally limited by the scope of their collections and budget. I know this from first hand experience. I work at an art museum, I volunteer at a historic house museum (I'm actually on the Collections Committee there), and I'm going to be studying at a third (and I know multiple individuals who have worked there in the past). [I]But that doesn't mean that an effort should not be made to preserve as much as possible.[/I][/QUOTE]
Not all the statues fit this level of historicity though. Many (most, I believe) were created in either the early 1900's Jim Crow south or during the 50's and 60's Civil Rights movement to celebrate the south. An example being the Lee and Jackson Monument in Baltimore, which was dedicated in 1948 and was paid for because someone who idolized Confederate generals in his youth left $100,000 to the project in his will.
And I've explained why many went up in the 1910s and 1920s.
[quote]Many statues were out up in that period (especially the ones dedicated to your "average" soldier, both the union and confederate ones) because those veterans were dying and the remaning wanted to help memorialize those they fought side by side with, and even those they fought against.
This isn't true for every memorial, but people pointing out "but they were put up in the 1920s" I think miss a major mark for why in part there were so many put up in that period of time, especially when things like "it was to show the inferiority of blacks" is said.[/quote]
[quote]Yeah, there were about 52,000 veterans at Gettysburg in 1913, with close to 9,000 of those being Confederate veterans.
That period was also the 50th anniversary of the war, and 50 and 100 year anniversaries tend to be a big deal.
The South also tended to start later with their monument building as the South was poorer than the north and monument building is expensive. The United Confederate Veterans in 1889 struggled with wanting to make a memorial of Davis, but try to keep it as apolitical as possible, and not want it to say "the south will rise again!". From our modern perspective this is a difficult argument to make, but its an issue that those who wanted these monuments struggled with.
Again, it's not applicable to every single monument that was put up, but this was a general trend, primarily for that peak you see in Lambeth's chart.[/quote]
The 50's and 60's if I were to guess would have to do with the centenary more than anything, although I could be wrong on that point.
I hate both Antifa and Nazis(inc. Alt Right). Shockingly, both of them are attempting to establish their own form of tyrannical shithole, and both are filled to the brim with the same types of inbreds as the other.
antifa will just find new enemies once they drive out bona-fide fascists
they've even attacked themselves given the right opportunity
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