[QUOTE=Fancy Godgineer;53010927]Rogan doesn't actually push for transphobia. If anything, he's neutral about trans issues and he will say he supports them on what they do and "let people be people, man".
He is a bit of a meathead though and sometimes uses terms that might be seen offensive but it's more because of how he's uninformed(which he admits to) about the whole thing.[/QUOTE]
I won't condemn someone the way other people will for just accidentally offending people but it is kind of obnoxious to me when people excuse themselves for saying something shitty or really ignorant by saying well IDK about this stuff.
Like, ok, if you don't know about it, maybe take an hour or two and just google it one night. The answers to everything you need to know to not accidentally step on trans people's toes and understand them also are pretty readily available. That way when this kind of stuff comes up you don't keep just fucking up and going "oh well I dunno I don't get this transgender stuff"
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;53011060]I won't condemn someone the way other people will for just accidentally offending people but it is kind of obnoxious to me when people excuse themselves for saying something shitty or really ignorant by saying well IDK about this stuff.
Like, ok, if you don't know about it, maybe take an hour or two and just google it one night. The answers to everything you need to know to not accidentally step on trans people's toes and understand them also are pretty readily available. That way when this kind of stuff comes up you don't keep just fucking up and going "oh well I dunno I don't get this transgender stuff"[/QUOTE]
I'm sure he'd take the time to get enlightened about these things when it becomes more relevant to him(i.e. he'll get a guest on who shines more light on the issues).
He has a dumb outlook on the whole trans issues thing but he genuinely does not want to go out of his way to specifically target trans people any chance he gets. If anything, he just tries too hard to make some jokes of it which tend to irk me as well, and I'm not too invested in trans issues either.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;53011060]I won't condemn someone the way other people will for just accidentally offending people but it is kind of obnoxious to me when people excuse themselves for saying something shitty or really ignorant by saying well IDK about this stuff.
Like, ok, if you don't know about it, maybe take an hour or two and just google it one night. The answers to everything you need to know to not accidentally step on trans people's toes and understand them also are pretty readily available. That way when this kind of stuff comes up you don't keep just fucking up and going "oh well I dunno I don't get this transgender stuff"[/QUOTE]
it seems that simple, but if someone really doesn't know much about the specifics of gender, sex, hormones, etc. then researching the subject probably comes off more intimidating or harder to understand than it actually is.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;53011447]it seems that simple, but if someone really doesn't know much about the specifics of gender, sex, hormones, etc. then researching the subject probably comes off more intimidating or harder to understand than it actually is.[/QUOTE]
I don't think the trans community could make it any easier for one to learn about transgenderism. We have thousands of online explanations of what transgenderism means and FAQs, both from trans people and psychologists, and if you don't wanna do that then you can literally go on the subreddit solely dedicated to asking trans people questions, or if you don't want to do that then you can just watch a youtube video, or talk to a trans person yourself. And most all of that will be relaying pretty much the same information, because we have to put in that much effort just so people can be informed about us at all.
I admit that people are seemingly hardwired to be curious about things but assume they are simply mysteries they will never know. But that don't work when Google, aka "All the world's knowledge at your fingertips" exists. I wish that people would be more conscious of the fact that when you don't know something, all you have to do is just, fuckin', google it.
Basically, if you just google "How should I treat transgender people" or "Explanation of transgenderism" you're probably going to find what you need to know 10 times over on the first page.
I enjoy the stereotypical "David Cage" type games. Definitely don't think they deserve any awards and it's impossible to take it seriously despite how hard he tries, but with the exception of Beyond Two Souls, they're fantastic to play with the right mindset (because imo BTS is fucking stupid past the point where it's stupid funny). I'm absolutely a excited for Detroit. I'm not paying $60 for it, but if it's anything like Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain, I'm sold and I'm fully ready for it to take over YouTube and Twitch whenever it releases.
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[QUOTE=megafat;53010706]There are a very few amount of people i would trust with giving cash, and I've never liked a gift that people have given me because people want to either surprise me or get creative and completely ignore anything that I've been interested in over whatever idea that they've had in their head because they feel like the "creative" or "feeling like they're the type of people who can read other people really well but can't" type of person.
Plus, if it comes to a terrible situation, I'd rather have the cash to help fix it.[/QUOTE]
I'm just outright going to say I don't understand what point you're trying to convey because it seems like you're just contradicting yourself and making points I wasn't talking about
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Like I'm just saying even shit like putting $20 in a box, then putting that in a larger box, then putting that in an even larger box, etc. is something that's generally regarded as humorous as long as you hit it right in the sweet spot where there's not too much buildup from too many boxes, but people instead just give $2 Hallmark cards which is incredibly boring.
I was mostly upset that Rogan seemed to really be pushing "we shouldn't give hormone blockers or HRT until the age of 25 because that's when the brain is done developing" which is absolutely stupid as hell and would kill so many people if it was implemented as policy.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;53012193]I was mostly upset that Rogan seemed to really be pushing "we shouldn't give hormone blockers or HRT until the age of 25 because that's when the brain is done developing" which is absolutely stupid as hell and would kill so many people if it was implemented as policy.[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like it'd be too late to effectively change your body to look more like the opposite sex by the age of 25, too.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;53011477]I don't think the trans community could make it any easier for one to learn about transgenderism. We have thousands of online explanations of what transgenderism means and FAQs, both from trans people and psychologists, and if you don't wanna do that then you can literally go on the subreddit solely dedicated to asking trans people questions, or if you don't want to do that then you can just watch a youtube video, or talk to a trans person yourself. And most all of that will be relaying pretty much the same information, because we have to put in that much effort just so people can be informed about us at all.
I admit that people are seemingly hardwired to be curious about things but assume they are simply mysteries they will never know. But that don't work when Google, aka "All the world's knowledge at your fingertips" exists. I wish that people would be more conscious of the fact that when you don't know something, all you have to do is just, fuckin', google it.
Basically, if you just google "How should I treat transgender people" or "Explanation of transgenderism" you're probably going to find what you need to know 10 times over on the first page.[/QUOTE]
all the info is there for anybody to take in, but what I'm saying is that there's a [I]lot[/I] to know about the topic, most of which involve stuff that some people were never really interested in. if you don't really know where to start, then it might come off as a bit hard to swallow and cause some people to back out.
and there are blogs and FAQs and stuff that explain transgenderism in a simple way, but most of the ones leave out some important info, and stuff like that can lead to people who make some pretty ignorant remarks but aren't actually bad people, just stupid.
[QUOTE=Skerion;53012342]Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like it'd be too late to effectively change your body to look more like the opposite sex by the age of 25, too.[/QUOTE]People have transitioned in their forties and fifties and looked good as hell. 25 isn't a cutoff age.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;53012193]I was mostly upset that Rogan seemed to really be pushing "we shouldn't give hormone blockers or HRT until the age of 25 because that's when the brain is done developing" which is absolutely stupid as hell and would kill so many people if it was implemented as policy.[/QUOTE]
He is open to new ideas when presented evidence and studies. Bit of a knee-jerk reaction that calling him transphobic for just having bad info.
Besides, can't really expect a UFC fight commentator/comedian be up to date with these sort of issues, and as mentioned earlier, he doesn't go out of his way to offend trans people.
[QUOTE=Fancy Godgineer;53012835]He is open to new ideas when presented evidence and studies. Bit of a knee-jerk reaction that calling him transphobic for just having bad info.
Besides, can't really expect a UFC fight commentator/comedian be up to date with these sort of issues, and as mentioned earlier, he doesn't go out of his way to offend trans people.[/QUOTE]
This isn't a kneejerk reaction. I've been overhearing him talk like this about trans people for like a year now.
And if he can't keep up with these issues and stay informed, he shouldn't comment on them.
I prefer Halloween to stay innocent and lighthearted. You're much more likely to find me celebrating it by playing Costume Quest or watching Nightmare Before Christmas than watching horror movies or whatever.
Even though I'm an atheist, it's still obnoxious to hear some other atheists explain things like they "did the research" when in actuality they're just venting to make themselves feel better.
[QUOTE=Fancy Godgineer;53012835]He is open to new ideas when presented evidence and studies. Bit of a knee-jerk reaction that calling him transphobic for just having bad info.
Besides, can't really expect a UFC fight commentator/comedian be up to date with these sort of issues, and as mentioned earlier, he doesn't go out of his way to offend trans people.[/QUOTE]
If you say dumb, incorrect shit in a public place, you're responsible for saying that dumb, incorrect shit. I know I fairly regularly fuck up info on things I'm not knowledgeable about, but that count would be immensely higher if i didn't check the facts I do prior to posting, because I'm not a fan of having to say "yeah you're right, actually I fucked up." I'd bet all it'd take is one "holy shit look at this idiot" controversy a la Jontron to shut him up, but that hasn't happened.
[QUOTE=xZippy;53013754]Even though I'm an atheist, it's still obnoxious to hear some other atheists explain things like they "did the research" when in actuality they're just venting to make themselves feel better.[/QUOTE]
I think hardcore atheism's a phase people need to grow out of. You can think there's nothing, you can accept that you don't know and you're probably not supposed to, but you don't need to preach it. I was an athiest as a kid, but the more you learn the more you realise you don't know.
[QUOTE=The Jack;53014054]I think hardcore atheism's a phase people need to grow out of. You can think there's nothing, you can accept that you don't know and you're probably not supposed to, but you don't need to preach it. I was an athiest as a kid, but the more you learn the more you realise you don't know.[/QUOTE]
Kinda ironic coming from the edgiest user in the thread.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;53014284]Kinda ironic coming from the edgiest user in the thread.[/QUOTE]
What is the point of this comment
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;53014313]What is the point of this comment[/QUOTE]
Pointing out that The Jack is looking incredibly hypocritical in that post? Kinda thought this was rather obvious.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;53014371]Pointing out that The Jack is looking incredibly hypocritical in that post? Kinda thought this was rather obvious.[/QUOTE]
People's opinions can change, your post just like petty and pointless
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;53014375]People's opinions can change, your post just like petty and pointless[/QUOTE]
You're right, people's opinions can change. However The Jack is the one user in this thread who consistently moves on from one shit opinion to the very next one he can find so him trying to sound superior in that post is still incredibly hypocritical no matter how you look at it. If he'd shown more effort in the past to not say stupid shit then I wouldn't have called him out on it.
[QUOTE=The Jack;53014054]I think hardcore atheism's a phase people need to grow out of. You can think there's nothing, you can accept that you don't know and you're probably not supposed to, but you don't need to preach it. I was an athiest as a kid, but the more you learn the more you realise you don't know.[/QUOTE]
So if you accept that there are things you don't know, aren't supposed to, and don't need to preach it. Well isn't that an argument against religion?
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;53014959]emphasis on can, as in not likely. Admitting you're wrong about something is emotionally costly, even if it's something that has no baring on anything, but especially so if it's something weighty. At the same time it's incredibly easy to just ignore, deflect and otherwise never own up to a mistake for your whole life until it blows up in your face and then suddenly apologies are plentiful. It doesn't matter if you're a compulsive liar or an absolute puritan, we've all been there. It's a human fault.
It's often the compassionate and right thing to be willing accept someone as being able to change, but honestly it's sometimes the case that after years of observing someone, you can tell that they don't have it in them.[/QUOTE]
i think it's more likely that everyone is capable of change, but nobody is capable of changing everyone.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;53014493]So if you accept that there are things you don't know, aren't supposed to, and don't need to preach it. Well isn't that an argument against religion?[/QUOTE]
It's entirely possible someone is devoted enough to believe the idea that "God works in mysterious ways" when they don't have an answer to why something happens, but not bring up their faith at every opportunity.
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An [I]incredibly[/I] key part of religion is having faith. Only some require you to try and spread it as hard as you can.
I don't think I'm much of a fan of Roguelikes. I got one for free off Steam, Kingdom, spent a few hours playing it, learning the mechanics, started doing really well, only to make one decision without the game even telling me (it has a minimal UI and apparently I'm supposed to interpret a random pile of trash and flags as 'GO ATTACK THE ENEMY HOMEBASE EVERYONE :downs:' when it looks exactly the same as upgrading a building) that basically fucked me over for the rest of the game. I tried my best to recover but it pretty much became obvious that recovery was impossible and I was going to die a slow death so I might as well just give up.
It feels like that in a lot of these games. I know part of the point is learning the mechanics and doing better each time, but a lot of the time that's also complete bullshit because things will happen that you just [I]can't[/I] be prepared for. And once it happens, you just have to wait slowly until you die or give up, and it's not fun, it's just stressful and depressing.
Like in Don't Starve, any year if the game feels like it a giant fucking yeti boss monster can come up and destroy your camp, and you just have to be prepared for that to happen at any moment even if you literally don't have the time to prepare for it, and if you kill it the damage to your camp tends to be so severe you'll freeze to death and have to start over anyway.
I don't like watching 3 or 4 hours just get burnt because I fucked up once, or even better, because the game just decided to randomly say "Hey, fuck you". That's like if you tasked me with building a lego castle, except any time he feels like it my older brother will come in and go "EHEH FUCK [I]YOUUUUU[/I]" and drop a 10 pound weight on it.
I for one cherish my status as whatever I'm supposed to be. I do wish that A lot of my prior posts would disappear, merely because I've either changed my mind or I miswrote them terribly. I have a horrible habit of assuming people know what I'm talking about.
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These ones will superseed any previous opinions I've posted/are written clearly. [sp]
-The free market is the worst thing to happen to people.
-Libertarians have the worst political ideology because the monopolies that form will inevitably lead to something closer to fascism. At least the fascists have an idea of what they want.
-Trans people are fine but identity politics is [I]second[/I] to economic politics. The collective is more important than the individual. If you're going to argue your point, you've got to appeal to the other side, and so I really lament sexual deviancy as something so often tied to [I]the left[/I]. Conservatives are going to knuckle down on that stuff and I'd rather change them than fight them.
-Athiesm's a lot of effort for very little gain.
-Communism's a great system it just came too early where it was doomed to fail.
-Promoting body positive stuff is really harmful to people in the long run. You can encourage weight loss without being a prick about it.
Now on to more important things.
-Star wars: IV is better than V, VI is one of the worst.
-Alien: Aliens is a shit film and James Cameron's a hack. Alien is good, alien 3 is alright, Prometheus was bad and covenant was terrible. The games are more great and that's the important thing.
-You should all stop seeing disney films in the theatre and if you really need to see their stuff then go for something second hand. They've got too much money. [/sp]
Also, I think I suffer the effects of confirmation bias. The amount of times I've had someone post something along the lines of "this is the first good opinion you've ever wrote" is just a little short of humorous, and I do write the odd one that might get a few agrees and otherwise ignored. I guess it's "this one's shit, it's by The Jack, I remember him writing more shit ones before, and people commented on how shit he is, so I expected this shittyness" or something.
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-Athiesm's a lot of effort for very little gain. [/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;53016079]I really want to know why you think this. Would you rather it had stuck with the horror theme and be Alien 2?[/QUOTE]
I have absolutely no problem with alien going for more action, the problem's with the way he did it.
I really hate Cameron's Vietnam shtick. The mother stuff's pretty mixed (Newt's fine, finding out her daughter died waiting for her to come home had all the emotion of a school assembly) but the fucking vietnam stuff... The good is that anything that looks remotely like a vietnam attack craft is going to look really good, the bad is that the soldiers are terrible caricatures, half of them supremely incompetent, and they're not very believable, all for that "Vietnam metaphor"
Therein lies the problem that Scott really tries to ground it. Compare the airlock scenes. In alien, she gets in a suit, cables herself in, and then opens the door to space. In aliens, she traps the queen with the powerloader, gets grabbed, opens the airlock (without a suit) and holds on with her strength (the much larger queen kindly lets go) till someone closes it for her. Action movie logic and all, but it spits in the face of the first film, as do several other notions, like how the crew in [I]Alien[/I] worked because they were relatable people.
the plot just doesn't work with the first film.
Alien; Android in conjunction with mother gets people to go into a ship sending distress signals and bring a parasite back, presumably to test it's effectiveness, meaning they've already got xenomorphs of their own.
Aliens;The company settles the world, apparently doesn't realize the alien ship there, foolish businessman gets people to have a look, colony doesn't have quarantine procedures again, probably because its' another test, [B]Foolish businessman still wants to take the aliens home, despite being part of a corperation that probably has the aliens anyway. They've conveniently forgotten about the alien ship after it's served it's purpose of delivering the aliens.[/B]
WY goes from practical evil to comically evil in the space of a sequel.
I just think it's a dumb film, really.
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[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;53016145]Return of the Jedi is almost a kinda bad movie to me. It has great moments but the Jabba escape lasts too long and all the stuff on Endor suuuuuuuucks[/QUOTE]
See I think RotJ [I]is[/I] a bad film that just has wonderful moments. But otherwise I'm on the same line of thought as you;
Everything in space, everything with Vader, Luke, and the Emperor is gold. I'll admit that C3p0 recounting what's happened so far was nice, but otherwise, bad movie.
[QUOTE=The Jack;53016024]-Athiesm's a lot of effort for very little gain.[/QUOTE]
Your other points I can follow even if I disagree with them but you're going to have to elaborate on this one. I'm not sure I follow because atheism doesn't even seem like any effort from my point of view.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53016085]What?[/QUOTE]
Well I just googled the meaning of atheist. Being a casual athiest and just Lacking belief in god is fine. However, you really need to put effort into proving that god is or isn't real, lacking a miracle. But I don't think there's much point in that. What does one gain if they prove that god isn't real, other than the ability to go wild without divine retribution? I don't think being militantly opposed to stupid fundamentalists who hate science really counts as an atheist cause. Telling people "there is no god" when nobody's got themselves some empirical evidence is just silly.
I think we're long overdue for swatting pranks to call for trial as an adult
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