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I don't like Black Mirror. I've watched a total of four episodes and every one has made me feel like shit afterwards.

The original Kinect wasn't even bad, just a casual family device. I had some fun games for it.

[QUOTE=Bertie;53038360]People who make resounding judgments of other peoples' entire personality based on minor things are shallow and- wait a second.[/QUOTE] im hyperbolizing for sure, i just hate when people brag about how many streaks they have

[QUOTE=gk99;53038481]I don't like Black Mirror. I've watched a total of four episodes and every one has made me feel like shit afterwards.[/QUOTE] Watch San Junipero.

[QUOTE=gk99;53038481]I don't like Black Mirror. I've watched a total of four episodes and every one has made me feel like shit afterwards.[/QUOTE] That's like saying you don't like comedies because they make you laugh. That's kind of the point.

To be fair, that [I]may be [/I]the the point, but that doesn't mean he [I]needs [/I]to like it. Some people don't want to watch something that makes them feel like shit.

[QUOTE=Skyward;53038727]To be fair, that [I]may be [/I]the the point, but that doesn't mean he [I]needs [/I]to like it. Some people don't want to watch something that makes them feel like shit.[/QUOTE] This could explain my on-and-off viewing relationship with [I]Atypical.[/I] It's a good Netflix show, but the subject matter hits too close to home and the main character reminds me of a couple of people I know. Plus the friend in it is a totally unlikable shithead even for high school standards.

I'm highly avoidant of pretty much anything that might make me sad in a really personal way

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;53038090]Fucking [I]what[/I][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=bdd458;53038099]Are you sure its instinctive, or is because of comparisons to blackface and heroin 樂樂樂[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Xubs;53038108]Frankly, I think you calling it on par with blackface is quite insulting in the other direction and is very blind to the severity racism. This is why this post is getting dumbed. Unless you [I]really[/I] think people eating meat is on par with white imperialism in Africa or Jim Crow, in which case I would say that's also dumb.[/QUOTE] Assuming that, in 50 years, we have a way to procure meat by growing it in a lab, which may be entirely possible given the way food science is headed. If that is the case, then after a generation or two of eating lab grown meat, we will scoff at the idea that we ever needed to do frankly unethical farming practices, and see it as backwards and savage, like how we see over-the-top heroin for toothaches. They're only tolerated today because it's a way to get cheap meat, and because most people aren't [I]that[/I] bothered by animal cruelty. Sure, I bet if you take a random person off the street and ask them if they're against animal cruelty, they'll say yes, but they care about cheaper animal products than they care about the wellbeing of the animals. As for the equivalence to blackface, it's another example of a phenomenon that was seen as totally OK for its time, and then when we grew out of it, now we look at it with a "I can't believe people back then held such unsympathetic views towards black people". Now replace "black people" with "animals" and that's the point I'm making. The old imperialist argument that blacks were just lesser evolved humans and no different from animals is another helpful parallel. Additionally, placing human life as more important than animal life is another can of worms, and there are entirely valid arguments for the latter, you only look at humans as being more important than animals because you [I]are[/I] a human. I assume that most of you here think that you should act with compassion towards fellow humans, and shouldn't be violent towards them for your own personal gain. Why not extend this argument to the other big animals that we eat, like pigs and cows? The way we place humans at the top is really just an argument from "might makes right".

I don't think blackface and mass-farmed animals will ever be seen in the same light, one was racism aimed at making people laugh, the other is making enough food efficiently to keep people fed. I'm sure that in the future mass-farming animals [I]will[/I] be seen as inhumane and wasteful, but at the same time it's completely different from blackface in the sense that we simply can't/couldn't lab-grow food on an industrial scale yet, so the only way to make large quantities of meat is to raise large quantities of animals. Blackface on the other hand wasn't necessary in any way, which is why it's an easy (and justifiable) thing to condemn.

I dont think blackface was really ever seen as perfectly okay in a lot of areas.

[QUOTE=Bordellimies;53039422]I don't think blackface and mass-farmed animals will ever be seen in the same light, one was racism aimed at making people laugh, the other is making enough food efficiently to keep people fed. I'm sure that in the future mass-farming animals [I]will[/I] be seen as inhumane and wasteful, but at the same time it's completely different from blackface in the sense that we simply can't/couldn't lab-grow food on an industrial scale yet, so the only way to make large quantities of meat is to raise large quantities of animals. Blackface on the other hand wasn't necessary in any way, which is why it's an easy (and justifiable) thing to condemn.[/QUOTE] In the modern sense, the "mass-farming animals is necessary" point is rather weak. We already massively overproduce food (the US, for example, produces 40% more food than it needs), and this is even taking into account that farming meat is exponentially more wasteful than farming plants. A cow needs to be fed 3-4 years worth of plant food in order for it to be mature enough to be killed and eaten once. Simply put, we mass-farm animals because we can, not because we need to. Blackface is not necessary, true, but neither is meat farming.

I don't like It Ain't Me by Kygo and Selena Gomez, not because the video, the video was fine, it's just that the lyrics make me feel bad because they make me think about [sp] myself and people I used to know in real life [/sp]. From my perspective, the lyrics always make it seem as if the 2nd person was an alcoholic, but I don't think people become alcoholics just cause, they do because they got problems. and the girl or the main characters just dumps their partner, refusing to help them any longer or care about them. Maybe I'm missing the right meaning of the song, but as someone who has had experience with family members/friends telling me to fuck off with my problems and even threatening me to leave me behind, it feels pretty hurtful because it's easy for me to feel identified with the guy/girl that the main character is referring to. The cheerful tone of the song just makes it even more twisted and bizarre for me.

Room temperature water all day every day

Whoever's holding the rights to Gottlieb's pinball tables, I think they should allow Stern to make duplicates of Goin' Nuts.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;53039467]In the modern sense, the "mass-farming animals is necessary" point is rather weak. We already massively overproduce food (the US, for example, produces 40% more food than it needs), and this is even taking into account that farming meat is exponentially more wasteful than farming plants. A cow needs to be fed 3-4 years worth of plant food in order for it to be mature enough to be killed and eaten once.[/QUOTE] You do realize just how difficult it is to balance supply and demand for an entire industry that makes use of thousands, if not millions, of suppliers, all of whom depend on that industry for their livelihood, right? [QUOTE]Simply put, we mass-farm animals because we can, not because we need to. Blackface is not necessary, true, but neither is meat farming.[/QUOTE] How exactly is meat farming not necessary? Eating a meat free diet is not viable for most people due to cost or time required to balance their diet. Granted we [I]could[/I] farm forms of meat that are less damaging to the environment (cows are one of the worst animals to farm for meat due to that) but that's a totally separate concern to what you're voicing. [QUOTE=Clovis;53040289]I agreed at some point, but this summer i've been loving ice cold water. I tend to drink so much I'm just buying crates of plastic bottles to crack open and drink quickly, then squash them and recycle. i think half of my recycling bin is crushed up plastic water bottles i know people are like BOTTLED WATER IS STUPID but hey it tastes better than tap water and just grabbing the bottle and drinking and disposing of it is less effort than washing and refilling juggs at the rate i drink water [editline]10th January 2018[/editline] im sure its not an unpopular opinion that bottled water tastes better than tap water[/QUOTE] Depends entirely on where you live. The tap water we have in my area, for example, is perfectly fine and tastes significantly better than bottled water.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;53040392]You do realize just how difficult it is to balance supply and demand for an entire industry that makes use of thousands, if not millions, of suppliers, all of whom depend on that industry for their livelihood, right? How exactly is meat farming not necessary? Eating a meat free diet is not viable for most people due to cost or time required to balance their diet. Granted we [I]could[/I] farm forms of meat that are less damaging to the environment (cows are one of the worst animals to farm for meat due to that) but that's a totally separate concern to what you're voicing.[/QUOTE] It's not necessary in the sense that it would be completely possible to pull out the meat industry and replace it with a plant food based industry. Especially when it comes to the extremely wasteful production of [url=http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/04_20_2016_Bobby_Magill_CC_GHG_Emissions_1050_991_s_c1_c_c.png]beef and lamb[/url], who require tons of space, water, time, and food until they're ready, and then eaten a single time. The resources spent on meat production would be far more efficient spent towards plant foods. Of course, it cannot obviously be done overnight, because an intricate meat food economy has been set-up, but it is not necessary in the sense that we don't actually need to have it.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;53040394]It's not necessary in the sense that it would be completely possible to pull out the meat industry and replace it with a plant food based industry. Especially when it comes to the extremely wasteful production of [url=http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/04_20_2016_Bobby_Magill_CC_GHG_Emissions_1050_991_s_c1_c_c.png]beef and lamb[/url], who require tons of space, water, time, and food until they're ready, and then eaten a single time. The resources spent on meat production would be far more efficient spent towards plant foods. Of course, it cannot obviously be done overnight, because an intricate meat food economy has been set-up, but it is not necessary in the sense that we don't actually need to have it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Eating a meat free diet is not viable for most people due to cost or time required to balance their diet.[/QUOTE] And would you like to address this issue? Because in addition to the ridiculous cost associated with your plan there, this is a major obstacle in the way. Both of which mean it's far more necessary than you're implying.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;53040399]And would you like to address this issue? Because in addition to the ridiculous cost associated with your plan there, this is a major obstacle in the way. Both of which mean it's far more necessary than you're implying.[/QUOTE] Costs and time are completely regional issues that differ hugely in severity, I'm afraid. I can't comprehensively comment on all of it. As for my situation here in New Zealand, however, it would be rather trivial to survive from here on out on prepackaged salads, potatoes, grains, beans, tinned fruits, and the like. Not only that, there are plenty of vegan-only stores, and freely available information from websites and local vegan communities. I'm not going to say that turning to veganism is easy, because that wouldn't be honest, though. It is completely true that a vegan diet involves being more careful with labels, as well as having to prepare more food at home if you want variety other than those things I mentioned earlier. Additionally, veganism doesn't necessarily need to be an end-all be-all. As I mentioned earlier, by far the most damaging animal practices are beef and lamb. If even these were reduced considerably or eliminated entirely, that would be great.

[QUOTE=gk99;53038481]I don't like Black Mirror. I've watched a total of four episodes and every one has made me feel like shit afterwards.[/QUOTE] Black Mirror always makes me think of this [media]https://twitter.com/simpsonsqotd/status/631924928074371073[/media] except these days it's making [I]anyone[/I] depressed (although the show itself is probably pretty good)

It's not depressing if you can emotionally distinguish fact & fiction. For me the series is intriguing.

I don't think all corporations are evil, but maybe that's just because where I live corporations are not as powerful as they are in the US.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;53042451]I don't think all corporations are evil, but maybe that's just because where I live corporations are not as powerful as they are in the US.[/QUOTE] I dont think corporations are evil, just amoral. The problem is that a lot of the time, you dont exactly profit from caring about stuff like the needs of your employees or the environment. This leads to uncaring behavior at best, and outright unethical behavior at worst.

Corporations are just like people in that they will trend towards trying to fulfill their own interests. Sometimes that gives you good, sometimes it's bad, but it's why you need a decent set of regulations, union interactions, and a civil society to keep them in line.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;53042451]I don't think all corporations are evil, but maybe that's just because where I live corporations are not as powerful as they are in the US.[/QUOTE] they arent evil by default, but they obviously put money and profit before anything and everything else. This can lead to a lot of shit, especially in america, and especially with companies that lobby like crazy and end up just entirely controlling things.

I don't believe religion should be a 'you have to do these 30 specific things in order to be considered a REAL ____' group of people. If you want to be a Christian, why can't have your own interpretations instead of being bullied into following...well, rules. Essentially, I don't think there can be "fake Christians" or "bad Muslims" etc. because I was always under the impression that religion was meant to be open, not a tight-knotted cult of conformism. I think this comes from the fact I don't understand people who say "I can't, my religion says so" - Why are your aspects of your life determined for you before you've even had time to consider the options? If you want to live that way, go for it, but I don't think you're a bad theist if you deviate. I mean, the Bible teaches stuff like loving your neighbours and having good morals etc, which I think are fundamental aspects of the belief. But should you be pushed into adopting other behaviours and opinions because a book says so? I'd say no, but I'm sure some people will argue that's against the point of the faith.

Alcohol tastes horrible.

[QUOTE=xZippy;53043027]Alcohol tastes horrible.[/QUOTE] Depends what alcohol. Wine is decent, and depending on what wine. People should lower their own expectations when it comes to helping a planet. Like there are some folks who restrict themselves extremely in terms of recycling and stuff, but its very difficult given how widely used plastic and other products have. Or rather, they shouldn't be preaching that they are clean from environmental harm, but that they are reducing their carbon emission. I mean its kinda hypocritical when people tell me that they are saving the planet but at the same time they are using handphones with metals that could had used child labour/slave wages to construct.

antivirus software is snake oil.

[QUOTE=aaa3;53043135]antivirus software is snake oil.[/QUOTE] Opinions stop being opinions when they're factually wrong you know.