Guys I need some serious advice. - General

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;19389590]Your main argument is invalid if they do as I originally posted. Plus, you were 15 in November (And probably still are 15). You're hardly an age old sex "guru".[/QUOTE] im actually not 15 but big whoop. if your 16 then woooow congradulations. you meet the minimum age in the UK ( i think) if you are to ask any adult with a normal unbroken family they will say its wrong or something along the lines of that. a 16 year old doesnt know any better than a 40 year old. its like people bitching about new updates for Team Fortress saying within a week of the release "oh my god this weapon should be taken out of the game" when Game Makers have been spending months planning something like this and testing it. but somebody who has just played with this "new weapon" for a week complains that they didnt think about what they were doing. bad analogy was better in my head but my point is: 1. Sex is an Adult Decision and only bad things can come from it if your are ignorant i.e Babies and STDs which last your whole life. 2. teenagers haven't had the experience that their parents had. so maybe it was a little extreme that the Father sent his daughter away, but he was just protecting her from things HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS ABOUT 30>14

[QUOTE=SGorilla;19389795]Also Mr_Sun your arguments sound like some of the crap they tell you in school presentations from some stuck up pricks.[/quote] I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to believe the things said at those. Oh wai- [quote]"Don't put your dongle in her togle; that's scary ADULT stuff, GIVE HER A SIDE HUG!"[/QUOTE] Rated funny.

[QUOTE=SGorilla;19389795]Also Mr_Sun your arguments sound like some of the crap they tell you in school presentations from some stuck up pricks. "Don't put your dongle in her togle; that's scary ADULT stuff, GIVE HER A SIDE HUG!"[/QUOTE] of course i know it sounds like that and I am just repeating what wiser people have taught me. respect your elders. I do sound like an annoying douchebag but its true. they have more experience and most of the time they are right.

[QUOTE=redBadger;19312206]I feel your pain, man. One time, I caught my ex-girlfriend fucking some other guy. It was terrible. I've been with my current girlfriend for 2 years now and it's going excellent. I hope your friend tries to stay in touch with your other friend. I also think the Dad should learn that it is natural and he should understand the situation, not kick her our from her own damn house.[/QUOTE] It's natural to be fucking at 14? I think not. Be a kid while you can. 14 isn't even sexually mature yet. It's like two Cabbage Patch kids having sex. [img]http://www.kidscabbagepatchdolls.com/picture.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=SGorilla;19389710]If you're both virgins and you use condoms you don't have to worry about STDs and babies. It's a personal decision and I'm not saying 14 year olds should have sex, just there's nothing wrong if they do under these circumstances. The notion of adult decisions is a bit silly too, until you're an adult you can't make informed decisions? If someone's stupid enough to not take precautions it's likely won't when they're 18 as-well.[/QUOTE] well they dont make as many as informed decisions. its all a gamble really

[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;19389814]im actually not 15 but are you any better? i dont think so, if you are to ask any adult with a normal unbroken family they will say its wrong or something along the lines of that. a 16 year old doesnt know any better than a 40 year old. its like people bitching about new updates for Team Fortress saying within a week of the release "oh my god this weapon should be taken out of the game" when Game Makers have been spending months planning something like this and testing it. but somebody who has just played with this "new weapon" for a week complains that they didnt think about what they were doing.[/quote] I'm very used to the fact that people rage at game developers when they make a change. Mainly because I am one. [quote]bad analogy was better in my head but my point is: 1. Sex is an Adult Decision and only bad things can come from it if your are ignorant i.e Babies and STDs which last your whole life. 2. teenagers haven't had the experience that their parents had. so maybe it was a little extreme that the Father sent his daughter away, but he was just protecting her from things HE OBVIOUSLY KNOWS ABOUT 30>14[/QUOTE] 1) A) [i]Don't be silly, wrap your willy.[/i] B) It's also a great way of enjoying being together and expressing the love between two people. "Only bad things"? Definitely not. 2) He's just angry. He isn't protecting her from jack shit, she can still leave her aunts house, via the door of course. He's just distancing himself from her, which really isn't the best idea.

[QUOTE=snuwoods;19389860][b]It's natural to be fucking at 14? I think not. Be a kid while you can. 14 isn't even sexually mature yet.[/b] It's like two Cabbage Patch kids having sex. [img]http://www.kidscabbagepatchdolls.com/picture.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] exactly. lets look at it from two angles: Scientific: You are still growing and developing your reproductive organs through puberty. Religious: I have a feeling somewhere in the bible its a sin to do this before you are married. and last time i checked you cant get married at 14 in the US or the UK [editline]02:06AM[/editline] [QUOTE=|FlapJack|;19389933]He's just distancing himself from her, which really isn't the best idea.[/QUOTE] it isnt the best idea but i think hes stuck at whether something bad might happen without him knowing at her Aunts or she might run away or keep having secret sex with the boy where they currently live

[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;19389961]it isnt the best idea but i think hes stuck at whether something bad might happen without him knowing at her Aunts or she might run away or keep having secret sex with the boy where they currently live[/QUOTE] He's just mad because he forgot to give her the embarrassing talk all fathers are meant to give their kids at the first sign of their kid having a serious relationship. That'd be the "safe sex" talk of course. Distancing himself from her is the worst possible thing he could do.

[QUOTE=|FlapJack|;19390058]He's just mad because he forgot to give her the embarrassing talk all fathers are meant to give their kids at the first sign of their kid having a serious relationship. That'd be the "safe sex" talk of course. Distancing himself from her is the worst possible thing he could do.[/QUOTE] I still dont think the talk would help much. at 14 you are aware of sex and what other body parts look like and what they do, but not responsible enough for anything like that. it could probably make her want to do it more depending on what kind of THE TALK he gives her

[QUOTE=SGorilla;19389710]If you're both virgins and you use condoms you don't have to worry about STDs and babies. It's a personal decision and I'm not saying 14 year olds should have sex, just there's nothing wrong if they do under these circumstances. The notion of adult decisions is a bit silly too, until you're an adult you can't make informed decisions? If someone's stupid enough to not take precautions it's likely won't when they're 18 as-well.[/QUOTE] Right, because all forms of contraception and protection work 100% of the time every time without a doubt. Also, it's not about just being old enough to make smart decisions. It's about being old enough to take responsibility for any mistake they make. If she gets pregnant, they aren't old enough to provide for a child. Then the parents have to decide on the life of the new baby, do they abort or no? Do the kids stay in school or do they wilt under the pressure of being parents and just drop out? Does the baby get to grow up as part of a healthy and well-adjusted family? Kids that age never think about these things, or about STDs (because they believe their partner is 100% faithful), or pretty much anything beyond a little pleasure. Sure, alot of adults don't think about it either, but most adults are independent from their parents.

[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;19390124]I still dont think the talk would help much. at 14 you are aware of sex and what other body parts look like and what they do, but not responsible enough for anything like that. it could probably make her want to do it more depending on what kind of THE TALK he gives her[/QUOTE] It's the embarrassment that shocks it into you that you need to be "safe". My "talk" with my dad was only around a minute, but was enough to make me [b]know[/b] that protection is necessary. I guess it's the same with girls.

protection IS necessary but also exactly what DiscoPony said. its like me and him are twins but i cant express that all in one post :/ I feel no need to post here anymore just because of DiscoPony, thank you for getting me out of this hell hole or morals, rights, and teenage angst

I'd be pissed if I had a slutty daughter. No one should blame the dad.

I think OP likes the girl and is trying to get with her.

OP where are you?

^Gettin' bizzey with the chick.

[QUOTE=Gluth;19391685]^Gettin' bizzey with the chick.[/QUOTE] Oh i see :smug:

I'm gonna say this is one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time, not just the fact they're fucking at 14, I mean that's stupid enough, but the circumstances are ridiculous. Imagine you're a 14 year old guy at some girls house and you fuck her while her dad is home, within earshot I imagine, the girl's father is well within his rights to throw her ass out. It's just disrespectful. Now if they were 16+ maybe I could understand, I really could, but not 14. And whoever's saying that they're in love needs to grow up first, you'll see things differently.

Why is this a big deal, shes a t her aunts, find out were she lives and stop by.

[QUOTE=Big Ben;19267249]Okay, I'll stop, but only after this: I've known a girl since she and I were 9, (we're actually you're age) this means I can go commit a crime (underage sex is illegal, incase you didn't know) just because I've known her 5 years? Best friends or not, it's wrong. Her dad was right for punishing her.[/QUOTE] I agree with this, but pretty much disowning her is wrong. Frankly, I hate that kids my age do this stuff, but they need to talk with their parents in this type of situation, not have their parents abandon them, or push them onto relatives. How do they think that will help?

[QUOTE=snuwoods;19389860]It's natural to be fucking at 14? I think not.[/QUOTE] It used to be natural due to the fact that we had such short life spans.

Run round to her current house now and try and talk to her. If her dad says no come back with a gun (no dont do that) ask him politley and say that its very important. If that doesent work you will need to be like ezio of assians creed and scale the walls.

I don't fucking get her dad.. Is he fucking jealous that she is making love with someone? I mean, kicking her out of the house because she was having sex? What the hell?

shit fuck i'm gonna be a reform parent if i hear the sound of sex from my child's room i'll kick it down and scream AWESOME

[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;19389842]of course i know it sounds like that and I am just repeating what wiser people have taught me. respect your elders. I do sound like an annoying douchebag but its true. they have more experience and most of the time they are right.[/QUOTE] Not if they're Christian, they're not taking morals from experience but from what was just told to them, so these aren't good decisions at all. And to the cabbage patch kids thing, they must be sexually mature enough, or they wouldn't be able to have sex without serious pain now would they? People go through puberty at different ages and speeds.

God damn I read this thread wrong. Thought there was some crazy incest shit going on. Go to her house. Ask.

[QUOTE=DiscoPony;19268925]And this is just one reason why they shouldn't be having sex at 14. Yeah, sex isn't a bad thing, but that doesn't mean children should be doing it. And if you think that at 14 years old they are going to make intelligent and well though-out decisions all the time, about sex or anything else, :hurr:[/QUOTE] So it's right to protect someone from themselves? -- Am I the only one in this thread who thinks that sex is perfectly fine at [I]any[/I] age and the dad should be beat into oblivion for this? What the fuck, Facepunch, you disgust me again. Edit: Now don't throw "the brain's not fully developed" shit at me. Doesn't matter, it's developed far enough to make its own, thought-out decisions.

[QUOTE=BackflipHatchetAttack;19267010]To be completely honest, I'm 14. I still need help with this.[/QUOTE] Well here's your problem. There's really nothing much you can do, it's likely to all boil over soon anyway, her parents are probably only sending her away to make sure she realises how much trouble she's in, I doubt it'd be permanently.

Please tell me that by "at any age" you mean post puberty and not with people 30 years old than you.

[QUOTE=SGorilla;19401584]Please tell me that by "at any age" you mean post puberty and not with people 30 years old than you.[/QUOTE] No, I mean "any age". If you feel like getting yourself hurt then go for it.