Michael from GTAV sets up a fake gun store to shame customers - General

Lemme get the one with the highest body count.

I really don't know how to feel about this. Like Jim Jefferies, they set out against guns but ended up in a way making an argument for them. The message really isn't "wah lets ban em all they kill babies and kids and are evil" rather "Don't be a fucking dumbass and practice safety." However unless this was staged they did it in an absolutely terrible way by guilt tripping people. It's awful and I just lost a fuckton of respect for Ned Luke. Like Jim Jefferies said, all it takes is one asshole to ruin it for everyone.

Guns are cool. But you don't need them. Over here obviously guns are very rare, and I never even consider gun violence as even anything that sits on my radar. I'm happy with this. Giving everyone guns over here would not make me feel safer, (or actually make it safer).

"I don't want to be that person from Walmart" Then be smart about it shiiiiiiiiiiiiit guys

[QUOTE=MelonGuy;47351343]Guns are cool. But you don't need them. Over here obviously guns are very rare, and I never even consider gun violence as even anything that sits on my radar. I'm happy with this. Giving everyone guns over here would not make me feel safer, (or actually make it safer).[/QUOTE] We don't need alot of things, but yet people still buy things. There is recretional and sport activites for guns too.

[QUOTE=KommradKommisar;47350159]Did adam lanza even use a spooky black ar-15?[/QUOTE] Yes, he used a Bushmaster XM-15 V-Match, a long heavy barreled AR-15. [img]http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/bushmasterwithleupold2.jpg[/img]

What if someone went in for a camo hat or something??

[QUOTE=Agoat;47351737]What if someone went in for a camo hat or something??[/QUOTE] "This hat was worn by mercenaries of Joseph Kony himself. His top lieutenant spun it around his finger as their soldiers burned down 20 orphanages."

[QUOTE=Agoat;47351737]What if someone went in for a camo hat or something??[/QUOTE] "a psychotic murderer who shot half a dozen mentally challenged burn victimed children at burn victim preschool wore this hat. what kind of an example are you setting when you wear this?" [sp]"i was in gtav you should play it"[/sp]

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;47350518]I agree with Jim Jefferies and his opinion on Gun Control. Don't shoot me.[/QUOTE] Even as someone who is pro gun control, I still felt a lot of his points were grasping at straws. Not that it matters because as he said himself "[i]It is a comedy routine and not meant to be taken seriously.[/i]"

So, I'm pretty goddamn sure that none of the supposed "history" was literally connected to that actual gun as the patrons seem to think. They just googled around for some anecdotes and attached them to random off-the-shelf guns. Am I supposed to believe they went around the country raiding police evidence lockers? Please. Wonder if someone was like "I don't give a shit, sell me that 1911 please and thank you." That said, there is an element of truth here. Guns are serious business. They are weapons that are engineered to kill other humans. Just owning one makes you statistically more likely to be killed by a gun. One lapse in judgment over your entire gun-owning life, and maybe your kid swipes your gun and uses it to murder his classmates. Or maybe it gets stolen and ends up being used to shoot some teenager in a drive-by. If you're gonna own guns, those kind of things should be on your mind. It only takes one fuckup for something irreversible to happen.

I get what they're going for. Guns are a huge responsibility, and most people treat them with a modicum of nonchalance that they really shouldn't. I feel like they failed by making it look like the weapons themselves were evil, when in most of the cases the previous owners just didn't secure them properly, but I imagine that was sort of what they were trying to do. Their message isn't necessarily about responsibility, it's about discouraging people from buying guns. Which I understand, not everyone really needs a gun. But there's no harm in having them for hunting, or hobby/sport shooting, as long as you're careful and responsible. I won't say there aren't certain, specific situations where having a gun for self-defense is very useful. Home invasions, muggings, that sort of thing. But those situations are rare, and life isn't Hollywood. if you're already staring down the barrel of a gun, having one yourself won't help you.

Submitted an anonymous tip to NYC crime-stoppers. Vast majority of those weapons are illegal to have in NY, and are a felony if convicted. [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] if they are going to enforce the law against the common man, all men must abide. no one is above it.

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47351881]Submitted an anonymous tip to NYC crime-stoppers. Vast majority of those weapons are illegal to have in NY, and are a felony if convicted. [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] if they are going to enforce the law against the common man, all men must abide. no one is above it.[/QUOTE] they are probably fake note the guy who said the pump-action's charging handle didn't move when he racked it

if theyre fake they need a quarter inch orange tip. if they are real guns that are "disabled" they still have intact receivers and are therefore considered working guns.

holy shit thats the guy who voiced Micheal

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47352404]if theyre fake they need a quarter inch orange tip. if they are real guns that are "disabled" they still have intact receivers and are therefore considered working guns.[/QUOTE] then they might have coordinated with the NYPD and gotten a special license for film purposes it's just that i somehow doubt they failed to think about the legality of the situation before they rented a space and storefront, constructed a shop, hired Ned Luke, and set up a buncha gun racks

We should really spend more resources on our mental health institutions and lending a hand out to those who are having personal troubles. If people want to do harm, they'll find a way to do it, especially here in America where guns are so ingrained in our culture whether we like it or not. I'm not so sure of the merits of gun control either way, but mental health is a big problem.

[QUOTE=mastfire;47352433]holy shit thats the guy who voiced Micheal[/QUOTE] did you even look at the title?

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47352404]if theyre fake they need a quarter inch orange tip. if they are real guns that are "disabled" they still have intact receivers and are therefore considered working guns.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47351881]Submitted an anonymous tip to NYC crime-stoppers. Vast majority of those weapons are illegal to have in NY, and are a felony if convicted. [editline]18th March 2015[/editline] if they are going to enforce the law against the common man, all men must abide. no one is above it.[/QUOTE] Uh, I'm pretty sure they got permission from the NYPD before doing this sort of thing.

[QUOTE=DChapsfield;47352504]then they might have coordinated with the NYPD and gotten a special license for film purposes it's just that i somehow doubt they failed to think about the legality of the situation before they rented a space and storefront, constructed a shop, hired Ned Luke, and set up a buncha gun racks[/QUOTE] so then, for what reason should they be above the law?

"So you're telling me it works?"

This is fucking stupid, they're scaring them off from ever buying a gun. The problem with gun violence isn't owning a gun, it's a societal issue. If a country like Japan suddenly legalized guns and everyone had them, gun crime might increase slightly, but not near the levels of the US. Guns are a great equalizer, if a small woman lives alone and a much stronger man busts in, what chance does she have? She will get overpowered and probably killed if she just has a knife or a bat.

If only he had some older weapons in there. Like the Mauser 98k I have that, without a doubt, was used to kill an allied soldier or two. Perhaps even the Garand my grandfather has that saw combat in Korea.

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47352520]so then, for what reason should they be above the law?[/QUOTE] They're not above the law if they asked and received permission from the NYPD. As far as I can tell, it's not illegal to use fake firearms for filming or photography purposes as long as you ask the police for permission beforehand.

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;47352520]so then, for what reason should they be above the law?[/QUOTE] Same reason most films shot in New York can use guns as props. Because they have money, and director's permits.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47351806]Just owning one makes you statistically more likely to be killed by a gun.[/QUOTE] I think this line of reasoning is really dumb personally. Like yes, I understand what people mean to convey when they state this, but this is literally true of anything else you attach this sentiment to. I am statistically more likely to be killed in a car accident if I own a car, I am statistically more likely to cut myself with a knife if I own a knife, I am statistically more likely to have my toe crushed by a barbell if I own barbells, etc, etc. I don't know, it just seems like such a weak argument to convince someone to not make the decision of buying a gun.

[QUOTE=Hinterlight;47352877]I think this line of reasoning is really dumb personally. Like yes, I understand what people mean to convey when they state this, but this is literally true of anything else you attach this sentiment to. I am statistically more likely to be killed in a car accident if I own a car, I am statistically more likely to cut myself with a knife if I own a knife, I am statistically more likely to have my toe crushed by a barbell if I own barbells, etc, etc. I don't know, it just seems like such a weak argument to convince someone to not make the decision of buying a gun.[/QUOTE] It's not an argument to convince someone to not buy a gun, it's an argument to be really careful and thoughtful about buying a gun. Driving a car will make your chances of being in a car accident higher. You take this chance of injury into account when you decide you want to drive a car. It's not supposed to be an argument to prevent gun buying but to enforce some critical thought into the decision.

The thing about guns is that they don't really make you safer unless you know how to use them. Unfortunately, about half of the population probably don't know how to use guns properly, and never well. You are always going to hear stories about babies shooting themselves with a gun that was left loaded lying around somewhere because a lot of people do that. First time buyers even moreso. If you are dissuaded from buying or using guns by some guy saying "this gun killed kids" then sorry you probably shouldn't be using them in the first place anyways.

I personally think that guns are fine in the correct situation. I don't believe that using one to defend your home is a great reason to own one, especially for someone with no training or knowledge of how to use one. They're just a little high risk. Owning them for hunting or using at a gun range where its a controlled environment with someone who knows how to handle them around is fine.