• If you are still unsure about Cannabis, this will finally clear it all up for you... With Science!
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[QUOTE=Rediscover;31104842]no, you dont need to but why the fuck not[/QUOTE] i'd rather not damage my lungs and temporarily impair both my motor and cognitive ability
On another drug related note, in Singapore, a boy was hanged because he was caught smuggling drugs when he was 19. There were worldwide protests to try and spare his life but I guess Singapore takes crime seriously and he was hanged when he was 21 (that's 2 years of waiting and trials). [img]http://jacob69.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sadpc-oct-10-forum.jpg?w=370&h=545[/img]
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31104242]I like the smell, and most people wouldn't smoke 24/7, they'd do it maybe after work to relax a bit. That's not stoned, they will act and function normal. Very few people get stoned on a daily basis (stoned as in, you're so high you just wanna sit there)[/QUOTE] With all the pop-culture bullshit going around. I don't think so Tim.
If only politicians would look at food products that are actually dangerous when taken in large amounts. Here's what I mean: [b]Weed cookies:[/b] Eat a lot, get high, fall to sleep. [b]Regular beer:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk, fall to sleep. [b]Four-Loko:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk and really fucking hyper, have the energy to carry out whatever drunk ideas you get. Pick out the bad one.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;31105296]I heard Four-Loko was illegal to sell in stores where I live..anyone else heard that?[/QUOTE] I'm hearing that about some areas. I'd have nothing against it if it wasn't caffeinated.
four loko is very dangerous and should not be consumed in large quantities
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31105029]i'd rather not damage my lungs and temporarily impair both my motor and cognitive ability[/QUOTE] lung damage isnt permanent i dont think, but i could be wrong, in fact i am almost certainly wrong about that, i guess you got me there and yeah thats called being fucking high
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[QUOTE=icemaz;31095041]I have no problem with cannabis, but when people don't shut the fuck up about it being legal it just really gets on my tits. Yes I get it you smoke weed you're so cool now shut up about it :v:.[/QUOTE] Marijuana should be legal. It's a much bigger issue than you think it is. I don't even smoke weed.
Funny, the cancer cells have "forgotten how to die", and the THC makes them remember. Ironic? :v:
[QUOTE=Rediscover;31105574]lung damage isnt permanent i dont think, but i could be wrong, in fact i am almost certainly wrong about that, i guess you got me there [B]and yeah thats called being fucking high[/B][/QUOTE] i don't really understand what's enjoyable about making yourself universally weaker as a human for a short period of time [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] but i won't judge, people are free to smoke what they please
As someone who smokes a lot and wants legalisation, these threads are a bit too common. It sounds like we are trying to push all this down peoples throats, when most people here already know it. It's not helping our already bad stereotype. [QUOTE=FinalHunter;31104396] All the guys I see that smoke weed are idiots that constantly get in trouble with the cops and are always suspended or some shit. I hate all smokers that are my age.[/QUOTE] They're just the stereotypical idiots that plague our generation, who seem to smoke weed just because it looks 'cool'. [QUOTE=FinalHunter;31104582]Who cares about how good it makes you feel? Do you really need to intoxicate yourself with a foreign substance to feel good?[/QUOTE] No one 'needs' to do anything, smoking weed is one of the massive number of things someone can do in their life to enjoy themselves, and one of the massive number of things people do all the time which have some kind of negative effect on your body. Most people know that drinking soda isn't good for your body, but so many people do it anyway. Everyone has a balance in their life where they draw a line at what damage they will do to their body for their own enjoyment, the average person could start smoking weed and not go over that line. People make too much of a big deal out of this anyway, and imagine that stoners are these boring people that can't find any enjoyment in life without being high. If weed was removed from my life, it would be like any other luxury enjoyment being removed, like bacon. Yeah it sucks, and I'll miss it, but there's so many other things in life you can use to enjoy yourself.
I laughed so hard at [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBWJteENiUs&t=11m14s]11:14[/url]. [quote]1 word: Endocannabinoids.[/quote]
The main thing about cannabis is it isn't very important. Paper is made from trees and artificial drugs are created in labs. The massive criminal gangs in Mexico is due to a weak law enforcement. Legalising it won't do anything. Just legalise it anyways though since its effects are practically nil and won't help or harm anybody.
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;31106374]i don't really understand what's enjoyable about making yourself universally weaker as a human for a short period of time [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] but i won't judge, people are free to smoke what they please[/QUOTE] Well I hear that all the Ju-Jitsu champions smoke it every day and just before fights because it doesn't do any permanent damage to your lungs, it speeds up your reactions, it makes you think faster and clearer and the side effects are hardly noticeable. Unlike Tobacco smoke Cannabis smoke doesn't stick to your lungs for years, it comes out in a couple of weeks of not smoking. It's mainly the heat of the smoke and the butane that are bad for your lungs, so you could smoke with Hemp Wick instead of a lighter and through a bong. However if you still don't want to smoke the smoke you can use a Vaporiser which won't even irritate your lungs temporarily because it's only heating the weed up just enough to release vapor. If that's too expensive or you still don't like the idea of it then you can eat it or rub the oil into your skin to get it's benefits. There are people who claim that they have cured their skin cancer by rubbing the oil into it every day for a month or 2. Some people also claim that they ate enough to Cannabis to cure their terminal cancer which was growing internally. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMLSyOMiYd4[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31109711]The main thing about cannabis is it isn't very important. Paper is made from trees and artificial drugs are created in labs. The massive criminal gangs in Mexico is due to a weak law enforcement. Legalising it won't do anything. Just legalise it anyways though since its effects are practically nil and won't help or harm anybody.[/QUOTE]Yeah but hemp makes a much better paper, besides the fact it's cheaper and more cost effective. We also don't have to destroy rainforest for trees, we can just grow hemp in a field.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;31110256]Yeah but hemp makes a much better paper, besides the fact it's cheaper and more cost effective. We also don't have to destroy rainforest for trees, we can just grow hemp in a field.[/QUOTE] You don't need to destroy rainforest, most, if not all companies don't use rainforests for paper. They grow massive plantations of fast growing trees that give maximum timber in the shortest amount of time (Like pine in Scotland for example). If companies found out that hemp was more cost effective do you not think they would push for them to be legalised and thus be able to grow their own in massive quantities for sale?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31110316]You don't need to destroy rainforest, most, if not all companies don't use rainforests for paper. They grow massive plantations of fast growing trees that give maximum timber in the shortest amount of time (Like pine in Scotland for example). If companies found out that hemp was more cost effective do you not think they would push for them to be legalised and thus be able to grow their own in massive quantities for sale?[/QUOTE]You would think. Hemp grows much faster than trees as well. [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] But I can see it now: kids at school smoking paper since it was made out of hemp
We are gonna need a lot more hemp before we are through with this thread.
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;31105243]If only politicians would look at food products that are actually dangerous when taken in large amounts. Here's what I mean: [b]Weed cookies:[/b] Eat a lot, get high, fall to sleep. [b]Regular beer:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk, fall to sleep. [b]Four-Loko:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk and really fucking hyper, have the energy to carry out whatever drunk ideas you get. Pick out the bad one.[/QUOTE] It's funny because they are all bad. It's also funny because the Beer is the worst one.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31110384]We are gonna need a lot more hemp before we are through with this thread.[/QUOTE] There's a graph somewhere which shows the deforestation rate since Hemp was made illegal back in the 1930s. The outlawing of Hemp pretty much caused deforestation as we know it today. We used to use it for paper, but now we're not allowed.
[QUOTE=Rediscover;31105574]lung damage isnt permanent i dont think, but i could be wrong, in fact i am almost certainly wrong about that, i guess you got me there and yeah thats called being fucking high[/QUOTE] Lol Yeah if you get lung cancer it can be cured. I bet you're high right now. (I was not saying weed can get you lung cancer) [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Octyl;31106137]Funny, the cancer cells have "forgotten how to die", and the THC makes them remember. Ironic? :v:[/QUOTE] That's not how it works, but I get what you're saying. Weed does help kill a load of cancerous cells, but they reproduce so much it's futile.
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;31105243]If only politicians would look at food products that are actually dangerous when taken in large amounts. Here's what I mean: [b]Weed cookies:[/b] Eat a lot, get high, fall to sleep. [b]Regular beer:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk, fall to sleep. [b]Four-Loko:[/b] Drink a lot, get drunk and really fucking hyper, have the energy to carry out whatever drunk ideas you get. Pick out the bad one.[/QUOTE]Four-Loko needs to be banned, mixing uppers and downers are not a good thing
[QUOTE=rukiddingme;31110439]There's a graph somewhere which show the deforestation rate since Hemp was made illegal back in the 1930s. The outlawing of Hemp pretty much caused deforestation as we know it today. We used to use it for paper, but now we're not allowed.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ are you really that dense? You think weed is the only reason for deforestation?
And can prove to be deadly in amounts greater than a couple cans [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;31110509]Jesus Christ are you really that dense? You think weed is the only reason for deforestation?[/QUOTE]Not the only reason, but it played a huge part in it.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;31109711]The main thing about cannabis is it isn't very important. Paper is made from trees and artificial drugs are created in labs. The massive criminal gangs in Mexico is due to a weak law enforcement. Legalising it won't do anything. Just legalise it anyways though since its effects are practically nil and won't help or harm anybody.[/QUOTE] This man knows his shit. [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=TehWhale;31110510]And can prove to be deadly in amounts greater than a couple cans [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] Not the only reason, but it played a huge part in it.[/QUOTE] A small part, actually. The mass deforestations were done by companies who honestly didn't hive a fuck about what was cut. Hemp was only used by a few companies, while at the time were large, still paled to others.
I like how Pro-weed people only tout the studies that favour them while trying to hide others, like this one: [quote]Evidence shows that tar from cannabis cigarettes contains 50% more cancer causing carcinogens than tobacco. [/quote] [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm[/url] Because tumors are not a single thing, there are several types and cannabis only helps prevent (note not cures or makes you immune to) some, while causing (and/or raising the possibility of) others. Here's one that everyone touts: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/08/19/us-cancer-cannabis-idUSTRE57I02Z20090819[/url] Nevermind that the same scientists say: [quote]"It absolutely isn't the case that men might be able to fight prostate cancer by smoking cannabis," she added[/quote] Just because there is a chemical that can help, it doesn't mean that A) you get enough by smoking cannabis and B) that chemical works when inhaled. Tobacco and alcohol are bad too, but that's not really an argument in favour of cannabis, it's an arguments against alcohol and tobacco (yes it makes no sense that those are legal while cannabis isn't, but that means we should diminish tobacco and alcohol consumption).
[QUOTE=acds;31110580]I like how Pro-weed people only tout the studies that favour them while trying to hide others, like this one: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm[/url] Because tumors are not a single thing, there are several types and cannabis only helps prevent (note not cures or makes you immune to) some, while causing (and/or raising the possibility of) others. Here's one that everyone touts: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/08/19/us-cancer-cannabis-idUSTRE57I02Z20090819[/url] Nevermind that the same scientists say: Just because there is a chemical that can help, it doesn't mean that A) you get enough by smoking cannabis and B) that chemical works when inhaled. Tobacco and alcohol are bad too, but that's not really an argument in favour of cannabis, it's an arguments against alcohol and tobacco (yes it makes no sense that those are legal while cannabis isn't, but that means we should diminish tobacco and alcohol consumption).[/QUOTE]They're not even using actual natural compounds found in marijuana, they're using two synthetic cannabinoids. [editline]14th July 2011[/editline] Flawed study
[QUOTE=MintyMginty;31102354]I was taught in school that cannabis contains 3 times as much tar as tobacco... What bullshit.[/QUOTE] I just did a little research into this. It's the other way round, tobacco contains 3 times as much tar as marijuana. They taught it [I]backwards[/I] ahaha.
I smoked with my girlfriend a few times... Only actually got high even twice. Once was just kind of disorienting and the other time they tried so hard to get me high that I got so dizzy I felt like I was on a spinning ride at the fair and threw up. Not going to smoke again anytime soon.
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