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who is she
IRL Alyx gun?
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who is she[/QUOTE]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-93]PP-93 submachine gun[/url], which is used by OMON for dealing with drug dealers and the like.
By the way, can anyone explain to me, why groups like the Free Syrian Army and ISIS are not using proximity fuse artillery shells based on a coffee can Doppler Radar? It just seems like something which they'd use considering it would allow for easier take down of helicopters, low-flying planes, and CAS aircraft. Not even to mention it'd allow the use of airbursting artillery shells over the current impact-based Hellfire Cannons.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50814127]
By the way, can anyone explain to me, why groups like the Free Syrian Army and ISIS are not using proximity fuse artillery shells based on a coffee can Doppler Radar? It just seems like something which they'd use considering it would allow for easier take down of helicopters, low-flying planes, and CAS aircraft. Not even to mention it'd allow the use of airbursting artillery shells over the current impact-based Hellfire Cannons.[/QUOTE]
because shells need to be fired from guns, and that is extremely hard on any electronics that might be fitted to an artillery shell. The chances of a homemade doppler radar fuse surviving the initial impluse of being fired out of a modern artillery piece (or even a homemade cannon) are basically zero. Add that to the difficulty of manufacturing a homemade radar fuse small enough to fit on the end of a shell in the midst of a warzone with limited access to modern manufacturing equipment and it probably wouldnt be close to worth doing.
for AAA, saturation fire from a ZPU or some shit is going to be infinitely more useful as an anti-aircraft weapon compared to trying line up a shot with a single-shot homemade cannon
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And at least from ISIS' perspective, they probably dont have much use for conventional artillery these days anyway. Anything larger than a mortar is almost certainly going to get hammered by an airstrike or counter-battery fire.
the FSA is in a slightly better situation, but even then I would be willing to bet that outside of the couple of large towed homemade cannons they field (probably more for propaganda effect than anything else) they make fairly limited use of large-caliber artillery
Joe sometimes I wonder if your mind has the time to reload a fresh magazine of logic before you pull the trigger.
I just like to overthink things. I'm still wondering why they wouldn't try using such a system for airblasting artillery shells, as currently almost all their weapons are heavily reliant on impact detonation which tends to limit what they can be used for.
Either way though, lets talk some military history:
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The Biafran War, also known as, "We don't have an actual airforce, so instead we'll take some standard farmer aircrafts and equip rocket pods and bomb hooks on them" and then somehow manage to knock out a majority of the Nigerian Airforce within an hour of attacking their AFB.
Wasn't something akin to this design being looked into by Academi? I could have sworn they were planning on making some really schmancy counterinsurgency plane which would bypass arms embargos and such.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50814127]
By the way, can anyone explain to me, why groups like the Free Syrian Army and ISIS are not using proximity fuse artillery shells based on a coffee can Doppler Radar? It just seems like something which they'd use considering it would allow for easier take down of helicopters, low-flying planes, and CAS aircraft. Not even to mention it'd allow the use of airbursting artillery shells over the current impact-based Hellfire Cannons.[/QUOTE]
because ISIS captured a bunch of MANPADS from Iraq and Syria while the FSA has been 'finding' MANPADS.
one problem i believe they still have is that the helicopters don't loiter long enough, they just fly over and drop barrel bombs so getting your shit out from the bunkers to hit them takes too long
as for fuses, you gotta know someone who knows how to make electronics survive 150+ g's and still function, the components that are used for that are very specific and have very limited uses so you probably won't find enough of them in syria to make it work. its all about what they can produce in quantity and impact detonators are simple and rugged enough to be manufactured on the ground.
See the only problem I have with the 150g notion, is that you have things like the VT Fuses which were used for taking out Japanese aircraft in the 2nd World War:
[t]http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/VT-Radio-Fuse_0001.jpg[/t]
I mean, it has a glass vial inside of the bugger.
As for their homemade designs not handling this type of stuff
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8H2wbvidI[/media]
Most of their factories which are used to produce replacement ammo for weapons, tends to be high tech enough to use metal lathes and the like for making artillery shells.
I really don't know, I realize I'm overthinking it, but it seems like proximity shells would be something that rebel groups would invest time into, considering how simple they are realistically.
Totally tooting my own horn here, but I got an AMT Automag III at a gun show this past weekend and I think it's just the coolest thing. It's a 1911 clone chambered in .30 Carbine. Yeah, it's a pistol that shoots rifle rounds, with a smidge more power than a .357 Magnum. Is that awesome or what?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/UHKHOOS.jpg[/t]
Just look at that fireball:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2uc7xrOeao[/media]
So as you all may or may not know, East Aleppo has been effectively besieged by the Kurds and Syrian Government.
Right now, the rebels are attempting to break the siege, and allow for their forces to withdrawal with most of their gear and equipment for producing weapons and such. They also have been taking quiet a few video of the [url=https://youtu.be/sUjg9g1v0NI]rocket artillery[/url], [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIINtLo7Opo]recoiless rocket arty[/url], [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKZI1xOxMug]tunnel bombs[/url], [url=https://youtu.be/Vwn06DMxR5s]rocket trucks[/url], [url=https://youtu.be/KUYz0ksPmKE]old howitzers with modifications[/url], and a few other videos of them using roughly twenty or so Hell Cannons, and pretty much barraging government positions with them.
Considering that I have listed quiet a few videos, I'm sure you could find the last one(having trouble finding it ; ~ ;), but until then, have some images!
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[B]Ahrar Al-Sham is starting to test their brand new [I]Elephant Missile Launcher[/I][/B][/quote]
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[B]Rebel artillery which is targeting an Artillery Base in SW. Aleppo[/B][/quote]
Also it's worth mentioning: Both sides are reportedly using chlorine and mustard gas at this moment in time.
I believe this is some sort of american proto-cruise-missile, thought it was cool.
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Wasn't something akin to this design being looked into by Academi? I could have sworn they were planning on making some really schmancy counterinsurgency plane which would bypass arms embargos and such.[/QUOTE]
Not Academi, but by a new company started by ex-Blackwater Founder Erik Prince. They tried to make an affordable ISR/CAS platform out of a Thrush Crop Duster
[url]https://theintercept.com/2016/04/11/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-drive-to-build-private-air-force/[/url]
[t]https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/04/thrush-in-flight.jpg[/t]
IOMAX that offers a similar conversion called the Archangel, but it seems more sophisticated/expensive. UAE bought some of these
[t]http://www.iomax.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/plane_exterior_2015-03-24.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50818329]See the only problem I have with the 150g notion, is that you have things like the VT Fuses which were used for taking out Japanese aircraft in the 2nd World War:
[t]http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/VT-Radio-Fuse_0001.jpg[/t]
I mean, it has a glass vial inside of the bugger.[/quote]
Filled with liquid electrolyte. I don't think ISIS has the means to make more battery juice, and if they [I]do[/I], I'm pretty sure they'd devote those batteries to more conventional uses, because...
[quote]I really don't know, I realize I'm overthinking it, but it seems like proximity shells would be something that rebel groups would invest time into, considering how simple they are realistically.[/QUOTE]
Simple? On a fancy schematic, perhaps. We're talking about WWII technology, any off-the-shelf radio emitter and receiver ISIS uses on these fuses might be easily blocked by contemporary ECM equipment.
So now you have an expensive and delicate piece of artillery that just zips past that one gunship you wanted to blow up. And that's assuming that the blasted thing was going to work, to begin with.
Besides, it's one thing to build stuff, it's another to build stuff that actually [I]works[/I]. And I don't think ISIS has the time, resources or tech required for proper testing before sending proximity fuses into mass production.
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Not Academi, but by a new company started by ex-Blackwater Founder Erik Prince. They tried to make an affordable ISR/CAS platform out of a Thrush Crop Duster
[url]https://theintercept.com/2016/04/11/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-drive-to-build-private-air-force/[/url]
[t]https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/04/thrush-in-flight.jpg[/t]
IOMAX that offers a similar conversion called the Archangel, but it seems more sophisticated/expensive. UAE bought some of these
[t]http://www.iomax.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/plane_exterior_2015-03-24.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
I'm glad Prop-planes are making a comeback, they're fucking sweet.
Case in point
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[IMG]http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Attack/SkyraiderWithSmokeCloud.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/skyraider-drops-napalm-and-white-phosphorous-during-the-vietnam-war.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=catbarf;50818900]Totally tooting my own horn here, but I got an AMT Automag III at a gun show this past weekend and I think it's just the coolest thing. It's a 1911 clone chambered in .30 Carbine. Yeah, it's a pistol that shoots rifle rounds, with a smidge more power than a .357 Magnum. Is that awesome or what?
[t]http://i.imgur.com/UHKHOOS.jpg[/t]
Just look at that fireball:
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2uc7xrOeao[/media][/QUOTE]
longslide pistol can't be this sexy
and the sound it makes in the video too
Biplanes again when
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Also I-153 Chaika (Seagull) is the prettiest biplane.
I saw an Automag III at the last gunshow I went to in Vegas.
If he hadn't been asking a grand for it, I would've bought it. :v:
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;50819144]I believe this is some sort of american proto-cruise-missile, thought it was cool.
[IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/d46dec457df89cd36051666a3cd19e91.png[/IMG]
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That's the Regulus, right? It's pretty much a full fledged nuclear cruise missile, a proto-cruise missile would be something like the V1.
Interestingly they were first used from submarines, making them the first American sub-based deterrent. They were in service for only ten years, and the last five of those were spent in the shadow of the new Polaris SLBM which made massive nuclear cruise missiles fairly redundant.
They kinda fall in the 50's and 60's gap of experimental tech used as a stopgap before the weapon systems the cold war was really known for were in operation.
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2uc7xrOeao[/media][/QUOTE]
oh my lord those firing sounds
does it really sound that beautiful?
[QUOTE=Destroyox;50819734]I'm glad Prop-planes are making a comeback, they're fucking sweet.
Case in point
Nice Skyraider but not the best prop planes to ever exist
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You talk about prop planes being fucking sweet, yet aren't showing pictures of the best and most beautiful prop planes ever?
[IMG]http://www.aircraftrecognition.co.uk/images/Aircraft/Vintage/Hurricane/Hawker-Hurricane-1.jpg[/IMG]
The Hawker Hurricane is the coolest prop plane ever. This is not to be discussed.
[IMG]http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/Vintage_Stories/News%20Stories%20D/HS-B%20Discovered/HS-B33.jpg[/IMG]
The P-40 is pretty cool as well.
Well those are fighter aircraft (though the Hurricane was also a fighter bomber), I was just posting a contrast to modern day CAS prop-planes and the last one I can remember that was in military service by a 1st world country. All props are beautiful.
[QUOTE=Destroyox;50823028]Well those are fighter aircraft (though the Hurricane was also a fighter bomber), I was just posting a contrast to modern day CAS prop-planes and the last one I can remember that was in military service by a 1st world country. All props are beautiful.[/QUOTE]
The Hawker Hurricane was whatever it wanted to be. Dont you judge it!
Jk. But they did make different Hurricanes for all kinds of roles. Fighters, Fighter bombers, Strikers, Navy fighters, Coast patrols, Night patrols and so on.
It's really neat to see how many roles just one plane actually can fill when you wanna spare the ressources on developing an entirely new aircraft
[QUOTE=Sunkite;50823479]The Hawker Hurricane was whatever it wanted to be. Dont you judge it!
Jk. But they did make different Hurricanes for all kinds of roles. Fighters, Fighter bombers, Strikers, Navy fighters, Coast patrols, Night patrols and so on.
It's really neat to see how many roles just one plane actually can fill when you wanna spare the ressources on developing an entirely new aircraft[/QUOTE]
Hurricane was F-35 before it was cool. And shitty.
F-16 was F-35 when it first became cool, and actually worked.
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;50821486]oh my lord those firing sounds
does it really sound that beautiful?[/QUOTE]
No, unfortunately, they just have really weird acoustics. What the video doesn't capture, though, is the incredible shockwave and boom with each shot. When I was shooting I had a range officer come to see what I was shooting because it was rattling his teeth from the other end of the firing line. It's a pretty ridiculous gun.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50818329]See the only problem I have with the 150g notion, is that you have things like the VT Fuses which were used for taking out Japanese aircraft in the 2nd World War:
[t]http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/pdf/VT-Radio-Fuse_0001.jpg[/t]
I mean, it has a glass vial inside of the bugger.
As for their homemade designs not handling this type of stuff
Most of their factories which are used to produce replacement ammo for weapons, tends to be high tech enough to use metal lathes and the like for making artillery shells.
I really don't know, I realize I'm overthinking it, but it seems like proximity shells would be something that rebel groups would invest time into, considering how simple they are realistically.[/QUOTE]
those tubes took years to develope though and again syrian rebels arent going to have access to tubemaking equipment. they werent even all that good just they were better than nothing. they were immeidatly ditched for solid state circuits as soon as possible because those dont break but again syrian rebels dont have access to a sure supply of hardened transistors or the knowhow to make the electronics
[QUOTE=Sunkite;50823479]The Hawker Hurricane was whatever it wanted to be. Dont you judge it!
Jk. But they did make different Hurricanes for all kinds of roles. Fighters, Fighter bombers, Strikers, Navy fighters, Coast patrols, Night patrols and so on.
It's really neat to see how many roles just one plane actually can fill when you wanna spare the ressources on developing an entirely new aircraft[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the more interesting Hurricane experiments, like the CAM ship:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Hawker_Hurricane_launched_from_CAM_ship_c1941.jpg[/t]
And also the Hurricane Mk.2D, filling a similar role to the JU-87G:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Pilot_6_Sqn_RAF_with_Hurricane_IID_at_Shandur_c1942.jpg[/t]
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Britain's new armed police.
Oddly enough we (the UK) have less armed police currently than we did 5 years ago so rather than this being a step toward militarisation/more armed police its more a restatement of how the police were before their budget was hacked to pieces. That said they get some fancy new gear.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPmhsi9v1WY"]Heres an excerpt from the news about it with some discussion.[/URL]
That's a strange looking camo colour, never seen it in this shade of grey
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;50826983]That's a strange looking camo colour, never seen it in this shade of grey[/QUOTE]
Suits me, I prefer my police not to wear camo.
Looks cool though, very scifi, I wonder what the material is
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