• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v7 - SHOTGUNS
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[QUOTE=ScriptKitt3h;50855669]I personally hope at some point down the line whenever the M16/M4-style weapons the US military currently uses start getting so old they're just plain outdated that we switch a bullpup for our standard issue rifle for the Army/Marines, since there's so many modern bullpup designs out there to utilize.[/QUOTE] There's not that many ambidextrous designs though, which is something pretty damn useful for military use. Hell, I've read quotes from quite a few ADF guys saying they wished we used AR-15 type rifles instead of our AUG derivative specifically because the size and weight advantages were not worth the difficulty of getting soldiers to a level where they can competently fire from either hand.
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;50854855][HD]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYUoG9S-y4[/HD][/QUOTE] Never expected to see a [I]famas[/I] of all things on here. Interesting
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;50855731]There's not that many ambidextrous designs though, which is something pretty damn useful for military use. Hell, I've read quotes from quite a few ADF guys saying they wished we used AR-15 type rifles instead of our AUG derivative specifically because the size and weight advantages were not worth the difficulty of getting soldiers to a level where they can competently fire from either hand.[/QUOTE] Weird, I thought AUGs were pretty easy to convert to left handed (replace bolt, move a plastic cover)
[QUOTE=Recurracy;50855913]Never expected to see a [I]famas[/I] of all things on here. Interesting[/QUOTE] Why's that? There's plenty of europeans here and plenty of european weaponry being posted. Or is it because it's french?
[QUOTE=kaze4159;50856213]Weird, I thought AUGs were pretty easy to convert to left handed (replace bolt, move a plastic cover)[/QUOTE] Easy to convert yeah, but it seems a gun that you don't need to convert at all is still preferable, which I can understand.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;50856230]Why's that? There's plenty of europeans here and plenty of european weaponry being posted. Or is it because it's french?[/QUOTE] I believe he meant that he didn't expect to see one on Forgotten Weapons.
[QUOTE=Sunkite;50856324]I believe he meant that he didn't expect to see one on Forgotten Weapons.[/QUOTE] exactly this
FAMAS seems like a better left hand gun over the AUG and Tavor since you don't even need a new bolt. You just swap the plug and the extractors places and the cheek piece and bam, lefty rifle. Shame more couldn't come in. Best bullpup design would be one similar to the ARX 100 rifle from Beretta where you don't need tools or parts swapping to go from right to left. Only need to swing the charging handle and a bullet to shift the ejection direction.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50857322]FAMAS seems like a better left hand gun over the AUG and Tavor since you don't even need a new bolt. You just swap the plug and the extractors places and the cheek piece and bam, lefty rifle. Shame more couldn't come in. Best bullpup design would be one similar to the ARX 100 rifle from Beretta where you don't need tools or parts swapping to go from right to left. Only need to swing the charging handle and a bullet to shift the ejection direction.[/QUOTE] Best option would be full ambidextrous charging handle, and downward or otherwise moved ejection so you don't need to do anything to change from one side to other.
FAMAS is cool, but I can't get over the proprietary mags. Maybe if they ever make a homegrown clone of the G2, à la the PTR family of rifles.
[video=youtube;FEq4TC9Wu3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEq4TC9Wu3s[/video] UKSF spotted using Jankel Foxes in Syria. They're Long Range Patrol Vehicles based on the Toyota Land Cruiser 79 chassis that can fit inside a Chinook. [t]http://www.jankel.com/media/images/CaraFoxDesert1_416.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;50857359]Best option would be full ambidextrous charging handle, and downward or otherwise moved ejection so you don't need to do anything to change from one side to other.[/QUOTE] Some bullpups like the Desert Tech MDR, FN F2000, or Kel-Tec RFB/RDB use forward ejector systems, somewhat bypassing the issue of left/right handed EPs. Personally, I do hope that caseless firearms tech advances more and more to the point where we can have rifles and other weapons for our militaries that don't need a proper ejector system, perhaps save for a port for clearing jams.
[QUOTE=ScriptKitt3h;50858078]Some bullpups like the Desert Tech MDR, FN F2000, or Kel-Tec RFB/RDB use forward ejector systems, somewhat bypassing the issue of left/right handed EPs. Personally, I do hope that caseless firearms tech advances more and more to the point where we can have rifles and other weapons for our militaries that don't need a proper ejector system, perhaps save for a port for clearing jams.[/QUOTE] The R[b]D[/b]B is actually [b]D[/b]ownward ejecting, which is a really cool and simple way to deal with the problem. It's just an incredibly simple short-stroke gas piston design where the bolt keeps recoiling past the feed area far enough for the empty case to drop out behind it.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;50859078]The R[B]D[/B]B is actually [B]D[/B]ownward ejecting, which is a really cool and simple way to deal with the problem. It's just an incredibly simple short-stroke gas piston design where the bolt keeps recoiling past the feed area far enough for the empty case to drop out behind it.[/QUOTE] I can't believe I missed that. However, yeah, downward-ejecting weapons definitely are better in many ways; unless I'm mistaken the only other "modern", commonly-used downward-ejecting bullpup would be the P90, no?
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50857470][video=youtube;FEq4TC9Wu3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEq4TC9Wu3s[/video] UKSF spotted using Jankel Foxes in Syria. They're Long Range Patrol Vehicles based on the Toyota Land Cruiser 79 chassis that can fit inside a Chinook. [t]http://www.jankel.com/media/images/CaraFoxDesert1_416.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Reminds me alot of the Bulldog jeeps from Crysis.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpgo5ODW8AElqCp.jpg:large[/IMG] Chechen-led group Ajnad al Kavkaz with predator-style PKM ammo backpacks in Syria [editline]10th August 2016[/editline] Here's a similar one in action [video=youtube;2jyKASj5w9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jyKASj5w9Q[/video]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50863646][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpgo5ODW8AElqCp.jpg:large[/IMG] Chechen-led group Ajnad al Kavkaz with predator-style PKM ammo backpacks in Syria [editline]10th August 2016[/editline] Here's a similar one in action [video=youtube;2jyKASj5w9Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jyKASj5w9Q[/video][/QUOTE] Now I want to see an M249 SAW or an MG3 being fed that way...
[QUOTE=ScriptKitt3h;50864891]Now I want to see an M249 SAW or an MG3 being fed that way...[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;MLW0SHLJecM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLW0SHLJecM[/video] I haven't found one with a MG3 yet, but a 7.62 belt version does exist
GTA 6 Libya edition: [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l01_RTSL2U8/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]Fighters of Libyan forces allied with the U.N.-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) fire a rocket at Islamic State fighters in Sirte, Libya, on August 4, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l02_RTSL2UH/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]Libyan forces allied with the U.N.-backed government wait for a rocket to be fired at Islamic State fighters in Sirte, Libya, on August 4, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l03_RTSKG8W/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]A fighter of Libyan forces allied with the GNA fires a rife at ISIS fighters during a battle in Sirte, Libya, on July 31, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l06_RTSI55I/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]Libyan forces allied with the U.N.-backed government fire weapons during a battle in Sirte on July 15, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l11_RTSKHCE/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]A fighter with Libyan forces allied with the GNA runs for cover during a battle with ISIS in Sirte on July 31, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l15_RTSI5CL/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]Libyan forces allied with the GNA fire weapons during a battle with ISIS in Sirte on July 15, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l20_RTSL2UM/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG] [QUOTE]Fighters of Libyan forces allied with the U.N.-backed government fire a rocket at ISIS fighters in Sirte, Libya, on August 4, 2016. # [/QUOTE] [editline]11th August 2016[/editline] [url]http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/495143/[/url]
Can anyone ID that missile? I have to assume it's an air-to-air missile repurposed.
[QUOTE=download;50865813]Can anyone ID that missile? I have to assume it's an air-to-air missile repurposed.[/QUOTE] Looks like it's an [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-125_Neva/Pechora"]SA-3[/URL]
toyota hilux; transporting rebels and third world armies in comfort since 1968
[QUOTE=Sableye;50866449]toyota hilux; transporting rebels and third world armies in comfort since 1968[/QUOTE] And SEALs, and a boat-load of other special forces. It's an amazing vehicle.
[QUOTE=Revenge282;50866480]And SEALs, and a boat-load of other special forces. It's an amazing vehicle.[/QUOTE] It's been used by NATO SF in Afghanistan partially because if it breaks down far from anywhere, replacement parts can be sourced locally.
[QUOTE=Riller;50866605]It's been used by NATO SF in Afghanistan partially because if it breaks down far from anywhere, replacement parts can be sourced locally.[/QUOTE] They sold so many to 3rd world countries that, like you said, it's impossible to [I]not[/I] find ways to fix it
I wish spec ops make used of the new version of the Hilux. It looked really cool in District 9 [IMG]https://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/461uparmouredhilux5fingb1.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Mallow234;50866047]Looks like it's an [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-125_Neva/Pechora"]SA-3[/URL][/QUOTE] Yup, they've been doing this for a while. I saw it on [URL="http://spioenkop.blogspot.nl/2015/04/libya-dawn-going-diy-s-125-sams-used-as.html"]http://spioenkop.blogspot.nl/2015/04/libya-dawn-going-diy-s-125-sams-used-as.html[/URL] a while ago.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;50866753]I wish spec ops make used of the new version of the Hilux. It looked really cool in District 9 [IMG]https://www.tacomaworld.com/gallery/data/500/medium/461uparmouredhilux5fingb1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Idk why but I think smoke launchers are just the dopest shit
[img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Aj1_ixEKDP0/VUDGWR6TmKI/AAAAAAAA4o8/_g2ENArwJIM/s1600/1428250601_1225093776.jpg[/img][img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FngbIrUWzdI/VU9UzTih6CI/AAAAAAABmcc/F7Kg3RCNlj0/s1600/mistralmcp.jpg[/img] T-34 and SU-100 in Yemen [editline]11th August 2016[/editline] [t]http://vid1.ria.ru/ig/sip/uvz21/desktop-ru/-KN2IW6kr_rqhKN4duc-.jpg[/t] [vid]http://vid1.ria.ru/ig/sip/uvz21/desktop-ru/-KOjgxDtw-e0Ep3eEuL3.mp4[/vid] T-90MS/MC testing in Kuwait
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;50865752] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/08/the-fight-against-isis-in-libya/l03_RTSKG8W/main_1500.jpg?1470765637[/IMG][/QUOTE] Libyan MREs look pretty healthy.
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