• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v7 - SHOTGUNS
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[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;51277272]... I wonder if those are legal in NY? That would look sick.[/QUOTE] Not sure if its the same company, but someone's made something similar with no thumbhole that looks like its built to be NY or CA legal: [IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2016-10-25-16.45.24.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51272745]I love OP as fuck looking vehicles. Like this MLRS looks like something out of C&C red alert [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Russian_TOS-1_MRL.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [video=youtube;QIOIMw0QpAg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOIMw0QpAg[/video]
[QUOTE=EliteSuperS;51276855]Is it bad that I like this? [t]http://i.imgur.com/pfTQdQm.jpg[/t] Would make a nice spes ar[/QUOTE] If they actually bring those to market that will go on my .308 AR I'm building so fast your head will spin
[QUOTE=notrabies;51277412]Not sure if its the same company, but someone's made something similar with no thumbhole that looks like its built to be NY or CA legal: [IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2016-10-25-16.45.24.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] They also make a version with a thumbhole and a P90-esque foregrip [t]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HERA-Arms-space-age.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51279800]They also make a version with a thumbhole and a P90-esque foregrip [t]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HERA-Arms-space-age.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Something about all this sci-fi looking shit being slapped around a 55 year old receiver design is really funny to me. Makes me think of all the blasters in Star Wars that were just built out of guns that were 30-80 years old.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBo9lZftcS4[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQ0tegtzXY[/media] Building a revolver around a cylinder made from a meat-grinders front piece. Noice.
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51279800]They also make a version with a thumbhole and a P90-esque foregrip [t]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HERA-Arms-space-age.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I don't know I don't like the HERA stock at all however the vitaly bulgarov/chris ha render (and hopefully actual stock) is cool as shit
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51276504]Also have a Colt 1911 Machine Pistol [t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/14549925_872831992851206_5920883576001265664_n-660x660.jpg[/t][t]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/1911.jpg[/t] Also have a video of this beautiful creatures go [url=https://www.instagram.com/p/7eILnfrVvE/]BAMMBAMMBAMBAM[/url] I sometimes gotta wonder why Garry hasn't added the ability to embed instagram videos. Either way, awesome little handcannon.[/QUOTE] Looks like the ATF's nightmare.
[QUOTE=PandaJuggernaut;51280787]I don't know I don't like the HERA stock at all however the vitaly bulgarov/chris ha render (and hopefully actual stock) is cool as shit[/QUOTE] The thing I don't like about the Bulgarov/Ha stock is the weird palm-swell like protrusion on the hand grip. The HERA stock looks more practical for production/use.
[QUOTE=wystan;51281275]Looks like the ATF's nightmare.[/QUOTE] not really, that sort of thing would require exemption by the atf anyways just like most broomhandle mausers are exempt because theyve been written in that way
[QUOTE=Sableye;51282478]not really, that sort of thing would require exemption by the atf anyways just like most broomhandle mausers are exempt because theyve been written in that way[/QUOTE] Or it'd be registered an automatic rifle, which outranks stuff like SBR, so you only need one stamp.
Question for any Dutch military guys. Will [URL="http://www.hessenantique.com/Dutch_Camo_Load_Bearing_Vest_p/s91072000.htm"]this[/URL] be able to mount surplus German [URL="http://www.hessenantique.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=S91360230"]G3 magazine pouches[/URL]? I just purchased a G3 clone and a bunch of magazines, but I have no way to satisfactorily carry those magazines. Pics of the rifle as content: [t]https://s17.postimg.org/nqq3a22nz/gewehr_drei.jpg[/t] [t]https://s17.postimg.org/6ox97ynsv/image.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51282526]Question for any Dutch military guys. Will [URL="http://www.hessenantique.com/Dutch_Camo_Load_Bearing_Vest_p/s91072000.htm"]this[/URL] be able to mount surplus German [URL="http://www.hessenantique.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=S91360230"]G3 magazine pouches[/URL]? I just purchased a G3 clone and a bunch of magazines, but I have no way to satisfactorily carry those magazines. Pics of the rifle as content: [t]https://s17.postimg.org/nqq3a22nz/gewehr_drei.jpg[/t] [t]https://s17.postimg.org/6ox97ynsv/image.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I doubt it, the German pouches use very specific LKS webbing attachments. [t]http://i.imgur.com/OoEWeaB.jpg[/t]
here's what the back of pouches made for the webbing looked like: [t]https://static.mijnwebwinkel.nl/winkel/militarycollectibles4u/image/cache/full/5f7626d5654dffd2dd21614ad773005e5513f76e.jpg[/t] Here's what the back of those G3 pouches looks like: [t]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FMspxRr8UlQ/UNH_BIGmUeI/AAAAAAAAFjY/YBzIibBBn4E/s1600/German+Army+G3+Mag+Pouch+Flecktarn.JPG[/t] It could work, 90's Bundeswehr webbing also had that ring type system with which you can attach pouches like the Dutch 90's webbing had. Those knobs on the back of the G3 pouch could maybe be attached that way German 90's webbing [t]http://76.my/Malaysia/bundeswehr-flecktarn-webbing-set-complete-bsmoh119-1501-31-bsmoh119@9.jpg[/t] Dutch 90's webbing [t]http://images5.images-speurders.nl/images/15/1525/152505915_8_big.jpg[/t] Why not go for the original German webbing it was intended for though? [editline]30th October 2016[/editline] Oh nevermind, from Rain's post you can see the rings on the Dutch webbing are too far apart to attach the G3 pouch properly I think
[IMG]https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/101645/13354011.146e/0_1135f5_2b5004d0_orig.jpg[/IMG] SAA's concrete armor addon to their T-72s
Well, enjoy your overloaded suspension and traverse mechanism for literally no gain, shitheads. Concrete is some of the most inefficient armour there is; god damn sandbags would probably do better.
Bunch of pillows stitched together would probably be far more resistant to shell then that. Concrete shatters even when bumped by rifle rounds.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51284736]Bunch of pillows stitched together would probably be far more resistant to shell then that. Concrete shatters even when bumped by rifle rounds.[/QUOTE] It's ~ablative armor~.
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51281559]The thing I don't like about the Bulgarov/Ha stock is the weird palm-swell like protrusion on the hand grip. The HERA stock looks more practical for production/use.[/QUOTE] The HERA stock to me looks like someone bondo'd an extension onto a straightened benelli M3/AIAW flipper baby stock. I kinda like the palm swell on the render although it is a little oddly placed but then again I like target style grips alot
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;51278119]hera is german, i really doubt they export those to cali/ny.[/QUOTE] Why not? You can get HERA arms stuff in the US without any trouble.
So I was talking with some friends about how the Stg-42 was the first assault rifle but then I was corrected by a friend claiming [url=http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as86/fedorov1.jpg]this[/url] was actually the first assault rifle ever. Since I don't know alot about this area in particular I was hoping that someone where who does could perhaps shed some light on this.
The Federov is much closer to a modern battle rifle than it is to an assault rifle Generally speaking an assault rifle is a rifle capable of select-fire between semi and fully automatic fire modes using an intermediate cartridge rather than a full power rifle round, which the Federov uses
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51287424]So I was talking with some friends about how the Stg-42 was the first assault rifle but then I was corrected by a friend claiming [url=http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as86/fedorov1.jpg]this[/url] was actually the first assault rifle ever. Since I don't know alot about this area in particular I was hoping that someone where who does could perhaps shed some light on this.[/QUOTE] Here's an article on pre-STG assault rifles: [URL="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/02/sturmgewehr-assault-rifle-developments-prior-1942/"]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/02/sturmgewehr-assault-rifle-developments-prior-1942/[/URL] (Warning: the author is extremely biased against German weapons and the STG in particular, and many of the "assault rifles" he lists are definitely battle rifles.) The original Federov definitely falls under the category of a battle rifle as it was designed for a full-power cartridge. In 1915, it was re-chambered for the much weaker 6.5 Japanese, which is kind of in the grey area between intermediate and full power rounds, so it is very commonly cited as the first assault rifle. It was actually issued in extremely limited numbers. However, it was operated by a crew and used like a machine gun and not like an assault rifle so I don't think it really qualifies. As a side note, it's horribly complex and takes a literal crew of people to disassemble: [video=youtube;NKpeHHpo_FE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpeHHpo_FE[/video] Interestingly, there are a couple of early American assault rifle too. There was a select fire version of the Winchester Model 1907 chambered in the .351 WSL round, which apparently has about the same energy as 7.62x39. The French ordered 2,500 of these rifles and issued them for trench-clearing actually a year before the Federov was adopted by the Russians. This seems more like an assault rifle to me as it was an individual weapon rather than a crew-operated machine gun. There was also an awesome dual-magazine assault rifle, the Model 1917 Burton LMR, that was intended for anti-Zeppelin and ground use. It was chambered a variant of the .351 cartridge and used incendiary rounds. However, only a few were ever made and it never saw service. [video=youtube;-OGyJPFzNfU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGyJPFzNfU[/video] Still, the STG is really the first assault rifle to actually be used as an assault rifle and mass issued. Ian and Karl did a video about the importance of the STG after the author of the above article basically claimed that the STG was historically insignificant and did not effect the development of the modern assault rifle. [video=youtube;tTkUlMmpW7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTkUlMmpW7g[/video]
That clears up alot, thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51287424]So I was talking with some friends about how the Stg-42 was the first assault rifle but then I was corrected by a friend claiming [url=http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as86/fedorov1.jpg]this[/url] was actually the first assault rifle ever. Since I don't know alot about this area in particular I was hoping that someone where who does could perhaps shed some light on this.[/QUOTE] It's really just a matter of defining it. Sure, there were weapons designed much earlier that fit the modern definition of an assault rifle with a bit of a stretch and a squint, but one thing is what you classify it as with an on-paper definition, another is what it was made for and used as. Take the SMG argument, for example, with people claiming the Villar Perosa was the first SMG. True, to an extend, except it was made explicitly as an aircraft machine gun to be mounted and fired via spade-grips. The same goes for assault rifles; you could easily claim that, i don't know, the BAR or M1 Carbine prototypes or Fedorov or M1917 were assault rifles before the StG-series, but they weren't ever really intended to fill the role, they were widely different weapons that just happened to also fit the modern definition of an assault rifle. To cut it down, the StG was probably not the first assault rifle, but it most certainly was the first time someone had sat down around a table and decided to intentionally design an assault rifle, and thus, it was the birth of the assault rifle as a concept and class of weapon, and older weapons are only grandfathered in to the definition by guys wanting to go "Nuh-uh! The first REAL assault rifle was...". Which is stupid.
Ian just did a review on BF1: [vid]https://videos.full30.com/bitmotive/public/full30/v1.0/videos/forgottenweapons/51d4816442bb023155e5ce4c5a669fdb/854x480.mp4[/vid] And Karl is doing a review of Onward: [vid]https://videos.full30.com/bitmotive/public/full30/v1.0/videos/inrange/5cece0558a7ee0dc42243984f7d454ec/854x480.mp4[/vid]
[t]http://i.imgur.com/p4jnLFg.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/8kmd366.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/7Eutvup.jpg[/t] Chinese Not-SCARs [editline]value[/editline] Which appear to be based on the NAR-10 / CS/LR-14 [t]http://i.imgur.com/5IC8wKm.jpg[/t] Which, in turn, is based on the Type-81 [t]http://tv-presspass.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Type-81a-1038x576.jpg[/t]
Tbh I'm getting more SIG/ACR vibes from them.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51275315][video=youtube;9E3FAKBlZh4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E3FAKBlZh4[/video] [IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/10/photos-of-the-week-10221028/w29_RTX2QTY9/main_1500.jpg?1477676598[/IMG] WITNESS MEEEE[/QUOTE] Whats with the Pipe in the front, Is it for mines or something else?
For seeing and/or shooting ahead.
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