• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v7 - SHOTGUNS
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[t]http://www.sigoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/lima5_atmo.jpg[/t] Sig P320 with an integrated laser frame/grip [editline]value[/editline] [video]https://youtu.be/H8CNWbqmhDw[/video] French SOF destroy an incoming car bomb with a Javelin after a miss with a Milan
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51372954]BOOM. soviet nuclear torpedo[/QUOTE]there's nothing quite like a good old-fashioned overkill, is there
[QUOTE=Reagy;51377391]The question is, did they have a sea mine?[/QUOTE] Aye, but it were deac'iva'ed.
Old combat footage of tank run in Iraq [video=youtube;7cuHmZfE0VM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cuHmZfE0VM[/video]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51378405]French SOF destroy an incoming car bomb with a Javelin after a miss with a Milan[/QUOTE] Find it surreal how it looks like the Milan ended up spinning off just before it was about to hit, that Javelin though, something about seeing it come down is satisfying in a way.
[IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/HERAM-Arms-CQR.jpg[/IMG] HERA Arms CQR w/ a Magpul D60 Drum Mag
gib please [editline]17th November 2016[/editline] I need it [del]to fend off the somalis[/del] for display.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51384990]gib please [editline]17th November 2016[/editline] I need it [del]to fend off the somalis[/del] for display.[/QUOTE] Pff, that ain't for fending off Somali pirates, it's for fending off Zorblaxian pirates! [editline]17th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=StrykerE;51371051]The multi-barrel shotgun reminds me of the Bigun from Metro: Last Light [t]http://i.imgur.com/pgXQvBU.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/YRtvG2N.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/eG9wfdhg.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] I always admired how it has a separate iron sight on every single barrel :v:
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;51371152][t]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/1/18/Eoka_pistol!.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131005210324[/t][/QUOTE] Sure thing partners: [img]http://i.imgur.com/XYseVZy.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51380678]Old combat footage of tank run in Iraq [video=youtube;7cuHmZfE0VM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cuHmZfE0VM[/video][/QUOTE] What the hell was that white truck attempting to do?
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51383807][IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/HERAM-Arms-CQR.jpg[/IMG] HERA Arms CQR w/ a Magpul D60 Drum Mag[/QUOTE] post more spaceguns
[QUOTE=StrykerE;51383807][IMG]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/HERAM-Arms-CQR.jpg[/IMG] HERA Arms CQR w/ a Magpul D60 Drum Mag[/QUOTE] The internals are from the 70's or so (I dont know exactly when the AR platform was designed so shoot me for it if you must), the externals are from the far future. I like it. [editline]17th November 2016[/editline] Also god DAMN I NEED IT. So fucking sexy.
The AR-15 was developed in the 1960s and is basically just a scaled down AR-10, so you could safely say the design is from the 1950s.
[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;51387712]The AR-15 was developed in the 1960s and is basically just a scaled down AR-10, so you could safely say the design is from the 1950s.[/QUOTE] wasn't the AR-15 just a rechambered ar-10 in something that doesn't feel scary to fire full auto. the original ar-10 was way too light for the large cartridge it used they both were the same size
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unAYiL-DJOo[/media] When in Australia, everything stabs, everything.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51389572][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unAYiL-DJOo[/media] When in Australia, everything stabs, everything.[/QUOTE] When in Australia carrying this is a federal crime and can get you put in jail.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;51389963]When in Australia carrying this is a federal crime and can get you put in jail.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure you could claim it's a pen knife being carried for utility purposes, which is completely legal as long as you don't take it into a school.
[QUOTE=Sableye;51389305]wasn't the AR-15 just a rechambered ar-10 in something that doesn't feel scary to fire full auto. the original ar-10 was way too light for the large cartridge it used they both were the same size[/QUOTE] Controllability in full auto is a problem for any 7.62 rifle, but it had nothing to do with it. They scaled the design down and rechambered it for .223 so it could be submitted for trials with the US military, who wanted a select-fire rifle in .223.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51390061]Pretty sure you could claim it's a pen knife being carried for utility purposes, which is completely legal as long as you don't take it into a school.[/QUOTE] Um, no. Carrying a pen knife as a utility tool is not legal. It's up to the cops discretion, but in most cases unless you are carrying the knife as part of your occupation then you will be charge as carrying a prohibited weapon.
[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;51390064]Controllability in full auto is a problem for any 7.62 rifle, but it had nothing to do with it. They scaled the design down and rechambered it for .223 so it could be submitted for trials with the US military, who wanted a select-fire rifle in .223.[/QUOTE] And they wanted a 5.56 rifle because they were obsessed with weight and wanted to be able to carry more ammo. Except now you have stories like the one my Drill Sergeant told me, about how he emptied an entire magazine into a guy before stopping him.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51390612]And they wanted a 5.56 rifle because they were obsessed with weight and wanted to be able to carry more ammo. Except now you have stories like the one my Drill Sergeant told me, about how he emptied an entire magazine into a guy before stopping him.[/QUOTE] More like through the guy; not surprising considering M855 was designed for better intermediate barrier penetration. "While these are not bad bullets, you will note that they are subject to large variations in neck length (distance the bullet penetrates before fragmenting); this variability is not desirable. In case of the short neck length, it is indeed an effective bullet. When 855 doesn't begin to fragment until 8"+, it will not be very effective on front torso shots and thin individuals; this explains the dissatisfaction of US combat troops with M855 in some cases. This is due to a phenomenon recently discovered called the "fleet yaw issue". It was first discussed in an article titled Small Caliber Lethality. There is variation from one rifle to the next about how much the bullet will yaw. The bullet leaving one rifle may exhibit more yaw than the same bullet shot from another rifle. [img]http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Misc_Images/Zhukov/FleetYaw1.jpg[/img] The bullets go through this yaw process on the way to becoming stable, and can yaw by as much as 4 degrees at short distances. You can see in the graph above that the bullet becomes very stable from about 100-400 meters, but the greatest variability - unfortunately - is within CQB range. The angle of attack has a profound impact on how a bullet behaves when striking tissue. Consider the two bullets in the picture below:: [img]http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Misc_Images/Zhukov/FleetYaw2.jpg[/img] When you overlay a low-AOA bullet on a human torso, you can see that this might mean the bullet won't begin it's yaw cycle and fragment until after it leaves the body, making a hole not much bigger than a conventional .22LR: [img]http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Misc_Images/DocGKR/m855%20body%20overlay%2001.jpg[/img] You could engage a target at one distance with a large AOA and great bullet performance, while a few yards more might mean a smaller AOA and poor bullet performance. When M855/193 fragment quickly, they can be very effective. Unfortunately, they could just as easily exhibit poor performance without the end user really knowing how well his particular rifle/ammo performs.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;51390490]Um, no. Carrying a pen knife as a utility tool is not legal. It's up to the cops discretion, but in most cases unless you are carrying the knife as part of your occupation then you will be charge as carrying a prohibited weapon.[/QUOTE] But the weapons act of 1990 cited on the QLD police website specifically says it is legal to carry a pen knife in a public place for utility purposes. [quote](1) A person must not physically possess a knife in a public place or a school, unless the person has a reasonable excuse. Maximum penalty—40 penalty units or 1 year’s imprisonment. (2) It is a reasonable excuse for subsection (1) to physically possess a knife— (a) to perform a lawful activity, duty or employment; or [s 51] Weapons Act 1990 Part 4 Possession and use of weapons Current as at 23 September 2016 Page 85 Authorised by the Parliamentary Counsel (b) to participate in a lawful entertainment, recreation or sport; or (c) for lawfully exhibiting the knife; or (d) for use for a lawful purpose. Example for subsection (2)(a)— 1 A person may carry a knife on his or her belt for performing work in primary production. Examples for subsection (2)(b)— 1 A scout may carry a knife on his or her belt as part of the scout uniform. 2 A person may carry a knife as an accessory while playing in a pipe band. 3 A fisher may carry a knife for use while fishing. Example for subsection (2)(c)— 1 A person who collects knives may exhibit them at a fete or another public gathering. Examples for subsection (2)(d)— 1 A person may use a knife to prepare or cut food at a restaurant in a public place or when having a picnic in a park. 2 [b]A person may carry a pen knife or swiss army knife for use for its normal utility purposes.[/b][/quote]
[QUOTE=MAC21500;51392929]More like through the guy; not surprising considering M855 was designed for better intermediate barrier penetration. -info-[/QUOTE] Yup. I've heard all of that before. I've also heard that the newer M855A1 cartridge is designed to tumble after about 3 inches, over M855's 7 inches. Too bad M855A1 is most likely going to wind up classified an armor piercing pistol bullet, meaning nobody outside military/LE will be allowed to have it. Of course, I'm the kind of guy who stays awake at night worrying about over-penetration, so my go-to is one variety or another of HP. It'd be kickass to have, but if I ever got my hands on a can of M855A1, it really wouldn't see much use beyond target practice.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51393268]Yup. I've heard all of that before. I've also heard that the newer M855A1 cartridge is designed to tumble after about 3 inches, over M855's 7 inches. Too bad M855A1 is most likely going to wind up classified an armor piercing pistol bullet, meaning nobody outside military/LE will be allowed to have it. Of course, I'm the kind of guy who stays awake at night worrying about over-penetration, so my go-to is one variety or another of HP. It'd be kickass to have, but if I ever got my hands on a can of M855A1, it really wouldn't see much use beyond target practice.[/QUOTE] It doesn't really tumble, the front penetrator and rear core split, penetrator follows the original path and the core veers off while the jacket makes a mess. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8IvDPuVuho[/media]
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51393096]But the weapons act of 1990 cited on the QLD police website specifically says it is legal to carry a pen knife in a public place for utility purposes.[/QUOTE] QLD might be an exception. I was talking with a cop today at the range and he said that in at least South Australia it is illegal.
[IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/11/photos-of-the-week-11121118/w04_AP16320471250063/main_1500.jpg?1479490352[/IMG] [QUOTE]A pile of 5,250 illegal weapons are burned by Kenyan police in Ngong, near Nairobi, Kenya, on November 15, 2016. The weapons consisted of both confiscated and surrendered firearms that had been stockpiled over almost a decade and were destroyed by police as a message to the public to surrender others. # [/QUOTE] *Cries internally* I see a number of WW2 firearms there, Lee enfield, K98 etc.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51395001][IMG]https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2016/11/photos-of-the-week-11121118/w04_AP16320471250063/main_1500.jpg?1479490352[/IMG] *Cries internally* I see a number of WW2 firearms there, Lee enfield, K98 etc.[/QUOTE] Those poor poor guns. Lol at all the little .22 air rifles in there too though.
[T]http://i.imgur.com/nZrrYyC.jpg[/T] Sums up my feelings nicely... :ohno:
I don't understand how burning them is supposed to make people donate the rest if they haven't already done so in the last ten years
Always found the idea of physically destroying firearms to be completely retarded, especially if they're historical. I mean why not just deactivate them ffs.
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