[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48924729]If I had to pick the most realistic/possible/likelyforustolooklike sci-fi soldier.
I would pick this
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I dunno, Halo is pretty good about having plausible military design but it still commits many of the same offenses as softer sci-fi. The design of the armor, especially those shoulder pads, is clearly for looks over functionality considering it provides basically no coverage but would be a pain in the ass for going through doorways and entering/exiting vehicles. And where's the gear? Is he dropping with just his rifle and no additional equipment? And why black of all colors, the worst possible choice for blending in to any environment?
My big issues with most sci-fi uniforms are the inconsistent armor coverage, total lack of LBE, and no camo or other visual disruption. Current combat load for soldiers varies from 50lbs to 100lbs of just equipment. Developments in powered armor/exoskeletons are primarily designed to increase the ability of a soldier to carry gear, like [URL="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pxn0AmNa55Y/U5nNwtQ1jwI/AAAAAAAA7iU/qaw2Hpnm0Us/s1600/lockheed-martin-hulc-robotic-exoskeleton-4.jpg"]the Lockheed prototype[/URL]. And for an ODST, whose mission is to operate independently of the conventional logistical chain, they'd probably follow the paratrooper model and carry [URL="http://1180017.sites.myregisteredsite.com/smbapfe62a.jpg"]as much individual equipment as possible[/URL].
For realism my vote would probably go to the Marine uniform in Space: Above And Beyond, a short-lived TV series from the late 90s. While some parts of its premise were implausible (ground-pounding Marines doubling as fighter pilots, what?), they did a good job with the infantry uniform design.
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They've got low-profile body armor providing full coverage to the upper torso, load-bearing harnesses, integral cameras, comms, and other electronics, and pouches for ammunition and equipment. In episodes where they're deployed to airless planets like Mars they wear the flight helmet-styled visors in the first picture (with backpack oxygen tanks no less, eliminating the 'where's the air stored?' question most sci-fi armor elicits), in other episodes they use PASGTs with helmet cams. For night missions they use NVGs, for LRRP they carry ALICE packs, for operations in terrestrial environments they wear camouflage.
So basically 20th-century gear, but with more body armor and integration with electronics, and specialization of equipment for the operating environment. That seems to be pretty much the trend over the past century so I think it seems a pretty safe projection.
[QUOTE=masterchief6;48918475]well yeah of course the original is iconic because of the films, but you have to think, it's in the future, these rifles are given to Colonial marines, they have smart guns that can track and accurately fire at targets, they got motion trackers, sentry guns, etc., but they dont even have high tech sights or aiming aids for their weapons? i dont know, that's just my opinion to be honest[/QUOTE]
lets asume these pulse rifles are a mass produced version and lack any kind of fancy schmancy as they're issued to marines as standard issue. At least in aliens they send in a highly trained squad to deal with an unkown enemy and they carry only what seems to be basic gear other than a flamethrower to get rid of what they asume is an simple infestation.
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Best looking Sci-Fi soldier armor ever.
Simple, yet effective*
*Effective at not protecting you in any way from that huge slaaneeshi daemon over there.[/QUOTE]
Who needs armor.
The Emperor Protects
I just had to revisit this meme
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You know at this point, it's fair to say the IG seem to win best sci-fi armor in every one of these threads. And it ain't hard to see why
[img]https://pensacolawarhammer.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/imperial_guard_armour.jpg[/img]
practical, suave, gritty. it just screams Brutal Efficiency
and that's just the Cadians, these walking sandbags come in all flavors
Konnig 33th
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Harakoni Warhawks
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Necromundan
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Praetorian Fenguard
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Tallarn
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And if that ain't fancy enough we have viking guardsman man
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and even morerer vikinger guardsman man
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and many more I really don't wanna clog the thread up with like yer catachans, DKOK and elysians, but goddamn you're not short of variety for these guys. Beauty of the IG is you can make em look like whatever you want so long as you hand them a lasgun, flak vest and cover em in Aquilas. Sky's the limit
Man, why does the Imperial Guard art always look way better than the models? You've got sweet art like that that actually makes the gear seem kind of cool, and then the models are all goofy football pad armor and weird proportions.
Death Korps is the coolest imo:
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[QUOTE=XanaToast.;48925928]
And if that ain't fancy enough we have viking guardsman man
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and even morerer vikinger guardsman man
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so you're telling me every single viking guardsman is issued a cow-skull codpiece, like every single one of them, so they have a place where an armorer or bunch of armorers are putting together codpieces from space-leather and cowskulls for the standard issue garb
just a general criticism of some generic soldier armors in both sci-fi and fantisy, if you put highly custom stuff on a soldier, you either A, assume all other soldiers also have that, or B have to assume that one dude is special enough to merit special stuff
Speaking of IG things
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[quote]"We need turrets"[/quote]
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[quote]"It needs a bigger cannon"[/quote]
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[quote]"Decent"[/quote]
[QUOTE=Sableye;48926543]
just a general criticism of some generic soldier armors in both sci-fi and fantisy, if you put highly custom stuff on a soldier, you either A, assume all other soldiers also have that, or B have to assume that one dude is special enough to merit special stuff[/QUOTE]
Or that they have a basic human level of individualism. Even in modern warfare, soldiers draw shit on their gear all the time. Does it make any sense to assume that the US issued peace-sign patches en mass during the Vietnam War, or that the guy with "BORN TO KILL" scrawled across his helmet was a miniboss of some sort?
[QUOTE=Sableye;48926543]just a general criticism of some generic soldier armors in both sci-fi and fantisy, if you put highly custom stuff on a soldier, you either A, assume all other soldiers also have that, or B have to assume that one dude is special enough to merit special stuff[/QUOTE]
or you can assume that the imperial guard, especially regiments like the catachan, have lax uniform code, allowing guardsmen to wear basically whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't mind getting shot at for not looking like a guardsman if they take it too far
Well yeah, when the Administratum are moving billions of soldiers around on screens they probably don't give a fuck how they are dressed. Only whether or not their flashlights have ammunition and are functional when they are whipped into running at the enemy.
[QUOTE=Taggart;48926633]or you can assume that the imperial guard, especially regiments like the catachan, have lax uniform code, allowing guardsmen to wear basically whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't mind getting shot at for not looking like a guardsman if they take it too far[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure that's actually part of the fluff somewhere, individual regiments from different worlds may have varying levels of uniform and equipment strictness, but the Guard as a whole doesn't really give a shit as long as they've got a lasgun
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;48925928]and many more I really don't wanna clog the thread up with like yer catachans, DKOK and elysians, but goddamn you're not short of variety for these guys. Beauty of the IG is you can make em look like whatever you want so long as you hand them a lasgun, flak vest and cover em in Aquilas. Sky's the limit[/QUOTE]
And then there's the Vostroyans, whose standard uniform seems to consist of a red longcoat, giant fur hat and moustaches for all.
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yeah who nees armor when it means nothing if you die anyway. there's like 10 dudes in line behind you waiting to take a bullet for the emperor blah blah blah.
[QUOTE=kyle877;48885633]but it sounds cooler therefore it's for EXTRA TERRORIST[/QUOTE]
Slam fire sounds like that term Nerf used in commercials.
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;48925928]You know at this point, it's fair to say the IG seem to win best sci-fi armor in every one of these threads. And it ain't hard to see why
Lots of pictures of the manliest men and independent women the emperor ever lay his eyes upon [/QUOTE]
Can you name the regiments the last 2 dudes are from? These pictures are great and I can use them to give my upcoming Only War group a good idea of the different regiments and their looks.
[QUOTE=Sunkite;48929061]Can you name the regiments the last 2 dudes are from? These pictures are great and I can use them to give my upcoming Only War group a good idea of the different regiments and their looks.[/QUOTE]
Top one was Nordian which was a homebrew made for fantasy flight games. Second one was for the same purpose but I don't have the name
[QUOTE=XanaToast.;48929084]Top one was Nordian which was a homebrew made for fantasy flight games. Second one was for the same purpose but I don't have the name[/QUOTE]
Dangit. Thanks anyway?
Any other cool regiments you guys can mention? Besides the ones already mentioned I also got the Armageddon Steel Legion/Ork Hunters and the Catachan Jungle Fighters
I gotta say Inquisitors are the best though. Especially those Ordo Minoris, that sometimes consist of a single Inquisitor doing his own thing, researching and killing mutant bastards in some wretched hellhole, like a space hulk, or even an Underhive. Maybe planet-hopping.
God damn, I need more 40K games.
You could make an open-world, interplanetary RPG game, where you grow from an Ork boy into a Mega Nob, or a Warboss. Grinding/fighting/trading teef and mushrooms, growing bigga, getting ridiculous armor/decorations, forming bigger gangs of Ork boyz and eventually, a Waaagh. Which will fall apart each time you crash land somewhere, resulting in a pseudo-endless single-player campaign that will never* end.
(*?? Just make it happen)
Speaking of 40k, we seriously need one styled after and in similar size/scale to Supreme Commander/Planetary Annihilation. The DoW series is good, but feels small compared to what it could be.
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apparently back in the late 70s boeing put together a design for a 747 that was chock'ed full of cruise missiles, it had missiles in its missiles, and would have filled the gap between the b-52 and the b-1a which carter canceled
it gets even crazier
[quote]The configuration was fairly straight forward, the design was based on the 747-200C, a nose-loading cargo derivative of the ubiquitous airliner, with nine rotary launchers mounted on tracks inside of the stripped-out cabin. Each rotary launcher would hold eight missiles, and they could be slid back into a launching position at the rear right side of the aircraft via the help of an overhead handling system.
A bay door on the right side of the 747's tail cone would open and an ejector system would punch the missiles out into the air stream and send them on their way either one at a time, or in rapid succession. [/quote]
basically the 747 was a gigantic 72 shot revolver that spat out missiles, while this sounds impressive, it would have been a nightmare for safety concerns, the b-52 had trouble routinely loading these rotory racks of missiles into its bay, and having 20 nuclear armed cruise missiles in one bomber was considered scary dangerous back then, i wouldn't want to be on the same continent as a bomber carrying 72 of these missiles
[editline]18th October 2015[/editline]
still turning a 747 into a bomber does sort of make sense, its not designed right now as one but if you [I]did[/I] want to replace the flying dumptruck with another one, the 747 would be the perfect replacement
[QUOTE=TAU!;48929632]Speaking of 40k, we seriously need one styled after and in similar size/scale to Supreme Commander/Planetary Annihilation. The DoW series is good, but feels small compared to what it could be.[/QUOTE]
Download the Apocalypse mod and go to town. IG gets Titans
[QUOTE=Sunkite;48931922]Download the Apocalypse mod and go to town. IG gets Titans[/QUOTE]
I don't want any clusterfuck mods though, I actually want to be able to freely swarm a whole planet with tons of Tyranids or Orks.
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[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3183516/posts[/url]
apparently back in the late 70s boeing put together a design for a 747 that was chock'ed full of cruise missiles, it had missiles in its missiles, and would have filled the gap between the b-52 and the b-1a which carter canceled
it gets even crazier
basically the 747 was a gigantic 72 shot revolver that spat out missiles, while this sounds impressive, it would have been a nightmare for safety concerns, the b-52 had trouble routinely loading these rotory racks of missiles into its bay, and having 20 nuclear armed cruise missiles in one bomber was considered scary dangerous back then, i wouldn't want to be on the same continent as a bomber carrying 72 of these missiles
[editline]18th October 2015[/editline]
still turning a 747 into a bomber does sort of make sense, its not designed right now as one but if you [I]did[/I] want to replace the flying dumptruck with another one, the 747 would be the perfect replacement[/QUOTE]
I think the more likely reason is that each aircraft held 5% of the ALCM nuclear force. Far too vulnerable.
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MP5/10, best MP5.
Now that I mention MP5s, I feel as if I need to...
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Is it that time of the year again?
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Meanwhile in Brazil...
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DATS SOME VARY ORKISH TYPE THIN'G ME THINKS
[QUOTE=download;48934828]I think the more likely reason is that each aircraft held 5% of the ALCM nuclear force. Far too vulnerable.[/QUOTE]
eh not really, the idea was this thing would be so far out of enemy airspace that it was more or less occupying the same role as a missile destroyer, plus the missiles they used as an example were the short range cruise missiles compared to the later tomahawk, plus by megatons, that still wouldn't have carried as much as a single b-52, the w80 warheads deployed on the cruise missiles were only up to 150kT yield, a b-52 routinely carried over 20 MTs of ordinance, the reason you'd use this instead of a missile ship is because you could load this thing up in nevada or whereever and fly almost non-stop without refueling (because the 747 can already do that) and loiter and unload massive amounts of firepower onto almost a hundred targets, and fly back, where as a ship would take weeks to load that many missiles, steam into range, and be vulnerable to anti-ship combat
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;48935441]Meanwhile in Brazil...
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DATS SOME VARY ORKISH TYPE THIN'G ME THINKS[/QUOTE]
Wasn't aware that gargoyles were game in Brazil.
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