• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v7 - SHOTGUNS
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Holy shit that's retarded nanny laws to the fullest extent
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;49865746]You don't here in Queensland depending on what it's a replica of, can't speak for other states.[/QUOTE] Oh true, I always saw replicas as part of the weapon categories and always figured they required some kind of license :v: Also explains why I saw them being sold at Supanova over the counter ($200 for a C96 though, fuck right off)
[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;49865396]I love the AMD-65. I've considered buying a deact one myself on multiple occasions, but the new spec ones are shittier than airsoft and old specs cost far too much for a gun that doesn't do anything. If I can find one with at least a moving selector and trigger for cheap then I'll probably pick one up, but I'm not paying 300 quid for a deact with the trigger and selector welded solid. For that price I could buy an airsoft one that at least has some practical value. And on top of that you get the concerns that everyone's having over new deact regulations supposedly coming in thanks to the EU that'll make all deacts need to be completely welded up. Even the old specs, which is why a lot of people with big deact collections are considering selling up and not bothering anymore.[/QUOTE] Mine was only £135 from D&B Militaria, and the trigger moves. Not sure about the selector, I'll find out when it gets here.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49865776]Holy shit that's retarded nanny laws to the fullest extent[/QUOTE] You can tell the people writing the laws also have no fucking clue how firearms work. For example, let's look at Category A. Category A includes the following: Blank-firing replicas at least 75cm long Manually-operated rimfire rifles Shotguns that aren't full-auto, semi-auto or pump-action Paintball markers Yes, according to the Australian government, a paintball marker or blank rifle is just as dangerous as a shotgun and must be restricted like real firearms. Also while semi-auto or pump-action shotguns are scary and evil and dangerous and should only be handled by professionals, a lever-action shotgun is perfectly fine and safe in any civilian's hands (As long as they haven't committed a major crime within the past 5 years). Also Category R (The you will never own this don't even try group for full-autos and the like) specifically names .50BMG firearms as something you cannot own. This is the only restriction on ammunition for any rifle, you can own and shoot pretty much anything else just fine. .510 DTC? Go for it. 14.5mm Russian? Sure why not. .950JDJ? Ok! But .50BMG is just too big and too powerful for civilian use.
[QUOTE=markedOne;49865585]I would love to buy all kinds of deactivated guns you cant get here, but they are quite expensive[/QUOTE] yeah, there's actually a pretty good selection around here, but the prices are high. roba.ee has a lot. I have a pps-43, pretty cool, only thing is barrel holed and firing pin missing
Speaking of firearms law and cool weapons: [t]http://i.imgur.com/V5tOTKY.jpg[/t] This is not a Short-Barreled Shotgun, because it was manufactured without a stock. This is not a pistol, because it can only be used with a forward grip attached. This is not an Any Other Weapon, because its overall length is greater than 26 inches. Legally, this gun can only be categorised as a "firearm" in the US, and is not an NFA item in any way (Until you shoulder that SIG brace, of course).
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;49866074]Speaking of firearms law and cool weapons: [t]http://i.imgur.com/V5tOTKY.jpg[/t] This is not a Short-Barreled Shotgun, because it was manufactured without a stock. This is not a pistol, because it can only be used with a forward grip attached. This is not an Any Other Weapon, because its overall length is greater than 26 inches. Legally, this gun can only be categorised as a "firearm" in the US, and is not an NFA item in any way (Until you shoulder that SIG brace, of course).[/QUOTE] [I]what the fuck is up with my countries firearms laws[/I]
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;49866074]Speaking of firearms law and cool weapons: [t]http://i.imgur.com/V5tOTKY.jpg[/t] This is not a Short-Barreled Shotgun, because it was manufactured without a stock. This is not a pistol, because it can only be used with a forward grip attached. This is not an Any Other Weapon, because its overall length is greater than 26 inches. Legally, this gun can only be categorised as a "firearm" in the US, and is not an NFA item in any way (Until you shoulder that SIG brace, of course).[/QUOTE] Um wouldn't that then fall under destructive devices, which is supposed to be anything everything else didn't catch
[t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1556-1.jpg[/t][t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1559.jpg[/t] Sport Systeme Dittrich’s SG-11, a Modernized FG-42
Looks like a space gun.
[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;49867260]Looks like a space gun.[/QUOTE] Its spacegun as fuck and it gives me a BONER GIVE IT TO ME [editline]4th March 2016[/editline] I mean what else does SG-11 stand for? Its [I]obviously[/I] SpaceGun-model11
[QUOTE=StrykerE;49867236][t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1556-1.jpg[/t][t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1559.jpg[/t] Sport Systeme Dittrich’s SG-11, a Modernized FG-42[/QUOTE] 10/10 would shoot moon nazis/be a moon nazi with.
Thats actually the SG-[I]12[/I] The 11 is full length. [img]http://www.ssd-weapon.com/images/sg%2011_72_631x255px.jpg[/img] Also [I]ohgod they have one in 54R[/I]
[QUOTE=StrykerE;49867236][t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1556-1.jpg[/t][t]http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/img_1559.jpg[/t] Sport Systeme Dittrich’s SG-11, a Modernized FG-42[/QUOTE] This is basically a tacticool Star Wars blaster.
even has the scope and side mag now just needs the folding stock
paint white and remove rails for full first order mode
The stock looks awful imo
[QUOTE=Sableye;49866728]Um wouldn't that then fall under destructive devices, which is supposed to be anything everything else didn't catch[/QUOTE] Nope, if its manufactured originally with no stock, its a smoothbore pistol. Its why the serbu super shorty is a legal not NFA weapon.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;49865967]You can tell the people writing the laws also have no fucking clue how firearms work. For example, let's look at Category A. Category A includes the following: Blank-firing replicas at least 75cm long Manually-operated rimfire rifles Shotguns that aren't full-auto, semi-auto or pump-action Paintball markers Yes, according to the Australian government, a paintball marker or blank rifle is just as dangerous as a shotgun and must be restricted like real firearms. Also while semi-auto or pump-action shotguns are scary and evil and dangerous and should only be handled by professionals, a lever-action shotgun is perfectly fine and safe in any civilian's hands (As long as they haven't committed a major crime within the past 5 years). Also Category R (The you will never own this don't even try group for full-autos and the like) specifically names .50BMG firearms as something you cannot own. This is the only restriction on ammunition for any rifle, you can own and shoot pretty much anything else just fine. .510 DTC? Go for it. 14.5mm Russian? Sure why not. .950JDJ? Ok! But .50BMG is just too big and too powerful for civilian use.[/QUOTE] I know a guy with a collectors license and he has 2 Boys anti tank rifles chambered in 50 BMG just so he can find the ammo easier, this is in Victoria though so the rules might be a bit different from Queenslands.
Hello from Warsaw, Poland. Got to shoot a Mosin Nagant for only 5 bucks [IMG]https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12805657_10153759108071622_3834930799371593053_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9e408cc090fa7908b0d94c91b9996c02&oe=57602C6C[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Sableye;49866728]Um wouldn't that then fall under destructive devices, which is supposed to be anything everything else didn't catch[/QUOTE] It's not a destructive device because weapons firing shotgun shells are normally exempted from that (as shotguns have a sporting purpose). I say normally because the USAS-12 was declared a destructive device for being a full auto shotgun and the Street Sweeper was declared one for being named the Street Sweeper. It is literally just a "firearm", that's what the ATF themselves said in response letters to the manufacturers. [editline]5th March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=cplcollas;49867916]I know a guy with a collectors license and he has 2 Boys anti tank rifles chambered in 50 BMG just so he can find the ammo easier, this is in Victoria though so the rules might be a bit different from Queenslands.[/QUOTE] That's interesting, Victoria sounds like a nice place.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;49869341]Hello from Warsaw, Poland. Got to shoot a Mosin Nagant for only 5 bucks [IMG]https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12805657_10153759108071622_3834930799371593053_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9e408cc090fa7908b0d94c91b9996c02&oe=57602C6C[/IMG][/QUOTE] The rifle is almost longer than you're tall.
[QUOTE=Sunkite;49869396]The rifle is almost longer than you're tall.[/QUOTE] Tiny asian problems
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;49869341]Hello from Warsaw, Poland. Got to shoot a Mosin Nagant for only 5 bucks [IMG]https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12805657_10153759108071622_3834930799371593053_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9e408cc090fa7908b0d94c91b9996c02&oe=57602C6C[/IMG][/QUOTE] The ammo you shot was probably only worth 30 cents to 1 dollar. Good profits for the owners.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49867482]Nope, if its manufactured originally with no stock, its a smoothbore pistol. Its why the serbu super shorty is a legal not NFA weapon.[/QUOTE] The Serbu Super Shorty is an NFA item (AOW). Says so on their website. [url]http://serbu.com/supershorty.html[/url] [url]http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/08/jeremy-s/gun-review-serbu-super-shorty-shotgun/[/url]
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;49869344]It's not a destructive device because weapons firing shotgun shells are normally exempted from that (as shotguns have a sporting purpose). I say normally because the USAS-12 was declared a destructive device for being a full auto shotgun and the Street Sweeper was declared one for being named the Street Sweeper. It is literally just a "firearm", that's what the ATF themselves said in response letters to the manufacturers. [editline]5th March 2016[/editline] That's interesting, Victoria sounds like a nice place.[/QUOTE] It's alright if you can bear the retarded as fuck weather, hipsters, shitty public transport and the fact you can't really get swords without a license, I only found it out after I brought a sword back from Sydney and looked up the laws on the internet, I still have the swords though and I usually pick up another one whenever I'm upstate.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49866728]Um wouldn't that then fall under destructive devices, which is supposed to be anything everything else didn't catch[/QUOTE] The way DD's and AOW's work is goofey. To summerize it we need to define some things. (these are federal definitions in a nut shell) A handgun is any firearm designed to be fired with one hand with an OAL of 26" or less. A Shotgun is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder that expels shot shells with a barrel of at least 18" (anything less would constitute a short barrel shotgun which is regulated by NFA) A smooth bore handgun is any pistol that does not have rifling in the barrel. (NFA) A destructive device is anything with a bore diameter over .50 caliber unless it is exempt for sporting purposes. SO with all that being said, a surbu constitutes essentially a smooth bore handgun. It's OAL is less than 26", it comes with a pistol grip instead of a stock (Remember fired from the shoulder), and it was originally built on a Mossberg or Rem receiver. Generally speaking anything that fires shot unless specifically named isn't considered a DD. Now in the case of the Black Aces here this is where things get weird. It has a barrel of less than 18", but it doesn't have a stock so it's not a SBS . It's OAL is greater than 26" so it does not fall under a hand gun. That is why it falls into this mysterious "Firearm" Category, which just like the AOW is a catch all to NFA it is to normal firearms. It terms of legality it's generally treated the same as a handgun when it comes to transfer and ownership, but that's about it.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;49869400]Tiny asian problems[/QUOTE] hey at least you have a big gun. [sp]relatively speaking[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;49869341]Hello from Warsaw, Poland. Got to shoot a Mosin Nagant for only 5 bucks [IMG]https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/12805657_10153759108071622_3834930799371593053_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9e408cc090fa7908b0d94c91b9996c02&oe=57602C6C[/IMG][/QUOTE] Man, you're really roadtripping through Europe. First you taste glorious swedish kebab pizza and now you're shooting russian rifles in Poland.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;49871519]Man, you're really roadtripping through Europe. First you taste glorious swedish kebab pizza and now you're shooting russian rifles in Poland.[/QUOTE] Prepping for invasion. Know your enemy, learn their weaknesses. Open your eyes, people. By tomorrow, we'll see that Ignhelper has popped a cap in 6 world leader's heads with 5 rounds of nugget food.
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