• Coolest/Ugliest Weapons v7 - SHOTGUNS
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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50321269]Does anyone have a video explaining how metal wire was made in the old days? Like how they made it for jewelry and such during the medieval period. [editline]14th May 2016[/editline] huh weird. I decided to look up some more videos and it turns out that audiophiles make their own gold wires sometimes. Not to mention it seems you can start the wire making process by simply making very thin metal bars, which almost always can be made via a process of packing a piece of spaghetti into a cylindrical mold and then topping off the bottom part of the mold to stop the liquid metal from going else where... Why the fuck didn't I think of this???[/QUOTE] Drawing has been around for centuries, for metal as pliable as gold or copper it's fairly straight forward, then there's other techniques such as hammering it flat on a mold which would produce a length of wire
[vid]https://a.pomf.cat/xppixz.webm[/vid] Kurdish fighters shoot down a Turkish AH-1W Cobra with some variant of Igla
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50322478][vid]https://a.pomf.cat/xppixz.webm[/vid] Kurdish fighters shoot down a Turkish AH-1W Cobra with some variant of Igla[/QUOTE] Damn, for a fucking ancient MANPAD it's surprisingly effective. [editline]15th May 2016[/editline] Wait, no, I'm thinking of the Strela.
It scares me to think that several groups in Syria right now are working on domestic copies of the Igla, as well as making their own platforms for launching multiple rockets. [editline]14th May 2016[/editline] Wouldn't surprise me also if those Iglas came from the Russians. What with the Turks shooting down Russian jets and all.
Lol, should take a look at the Funker page for the video. So many angry Turks arguing with everyone else.
[QUOTE=download;50322927]Lol, should take a look at the Funker page for the video. So many angry Turks arguing with everyone else.[/QUOTE] Christ, these fucks cannot be anymore upset can they? You reap what you sow. When you attack Kurdish villages, attack and detain innocent people, and support ISIS by allowing their movement in and out of your country... Well, you are bound to make a few enemies. [editline]14th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;50322284]Drawing has been around for centuries, for metal as pliable as gold or copper it's fairly straight forward, then there's other techniques such as hammering it flat on a mold which would produce a length of wire[/QUOTE] Ahh. I talked to a guy over Youtube comments about it as well, and it seems I may have a way to go even more homebrew with a gun design I plan on building.
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50322478][vid]https://a.pomf.cat/xppixz.webm[/vid] Kurdish fighters shoot down a Turkish AH-1W Cobra with some variant of Igla[/QUOTE] Shit, that makes me feel...some type of something. i guess now i know i wouldn't have the stomach for battlefield journalism
yeah seeing any type of aircraft get shot down makes me feel kind of sick to my stomach it would be pretty awful to spend your last seconds spinning around in a flaming helicopter not knowing what just happened
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;50323487]Shit, that makes me feel...some type of something. i guess now i know i wouldn't have the stomach for battlefield journalism[/QUOTE] Well it is technically footage of someone dying, even if it's disconnected with them being in the helicopter and all.
[QUOTE=Tinter;50324588]Well it is technically footage of someone dying, even if it's disconnected with them being in the helicopter and all.[/QUOTE] I did this in my Vive while flying in DCS, can confirm I freaked the fuck out as the ground got closer and I knew there was nothing I could do. In real life, I can't imagine the panic.
I hope it isn't what I think it is, but towards the end of the video you see two people getting kicked out by the rotorblade... :nope: Lighten up the mood time? [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQlyitOGDUg[/media] It's a baby desert eagle, and its fugging adorable.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;50324978]I did this in my Vive while flying in DCS, can confirm I freaked the fuck out as the ground got closer and I knew there was nothing I could do. In real life, I can't imagine the panic.[/QUOTE] Reminds me of the cockpit cam that a russian Hind had as it was hit by a missle, all you could hear the pilot say was "Aah, blyat." before it hit the ground and the camera went all crooked. Basically "Welp".
[QUOTE=Grim2o0o;50328581]Reminds me of the cockpit cam that a russian Hind had as it was hit by a missle, all you could hear the pilot say was "Aah, blyat." before it hit the ground and the camera went all crooked. Basically "Welp".[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;VUlaGXDeSik]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUlaGXDeSik[/video] This one?
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50329228] This one?[/QUOTE] He says it so... I don't even know how to say it. Given up? Uncaring? Here we go again? Also, doesn't Cobra have Flares?
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50329228][video=youtube;VUlaGXDeSik]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUlaGXDeSik[/video] This one?[/QUOTE] Fucking flying anything in a combat zone that isn't very, very high up with a big god damn howitzer pointing out of the side.
[QUOTE=gufu;50329513]He says it so... I don't even know how to say it. Given up? Uncaring? Here we go again? Also, doesn't Cobra have Flares?[/QUOTE] Well it's not like you have a whole lot of time to think about dying, so I guess it's just a "Here goes" attitude. Seems to be fairly common [media]https://youtu.be/SlPL_nof2lA?t=9m19s[/media] at 9:20 And maybe they had flares but wasn't the guy next to him counting the distance or something? I have no idea.
I don't think there's really a way to pick up on incoming thermally-guided missiles.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50329698]I don't think there's really a way to pick up on incoming thermally-guided missiles.[/QUOTE] There would be, tanks already do it, and aircraft probably have automatic chaif launchers, helicopters probably have even better optics. I wonder if anyone has tried to outfit helicopters with those anti-missile shot launchers that they have for tanks
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50329698]I don't think there's really a way to pick up on incoming thermally-guided missiles.[/QUOTE] The exhaust plum from a missile is quite obvious. Most military aircraft have the means to detect it. [editline]16th May 2016[/editline] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/AAR-47_Missile_Approach_Warning_System[/url]
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50329698]I don't think there's really a way to pick up on incoming thermally-guided missiles.[/QUOTE] Most US aircraft have infrared sensors that can pick up on the heat of the rocket motor of an incoming missile and tell the system to automatically dump flares. Some of the fancier ones like the AN/AAQ-24 NEMESIS will use lasers or IR dazzlers similar to Shtora to confuse the IR sensor on the missiles and cause them to constantly change directions. Apparently, there was an incident in Afghanistan where a Harrier buzzed a US base during a celebration and its sensors picked up on a bonfire on base, thought it was missile exhaust, and proceeded to dump flares all over the base, causing several fires.
[QUOTE=StrykerE;50330245]Most US aircraft have infrared sensors that can pick up on the heat of the rocket motor of an incoming missile and tell the system to automatically dump flares. Some of the fancier ones like the AN/AAQ-24 NEMESIS will use lasers or IR dazzlers similar to Shtora to confuse the IR sensor on the missiles and cause them to constantly change directions. Apparently, there was an incident in Afghanistan where a Harrier buzzed a US base during a celebration and its sensors picked up on a bonfire on base, thought it was missile exhaust, and proceeded to dump flares all over the base, causing several fires.[/QUOTE] there was also an incident with a f35 that tracked a Minuteman missile launch from like a few hundred miles away during testing
[img]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Bushmater-Armpistol-Goepfert.jpg[/img] Bushmaster Arm Pistol EDIT: Actually the original design was the IMP-221
[QUOTE=Altimor;50333566][IMG]http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Bushmater-Armpistol-Goepfert.jpg[/IMG] Bushmaster Arm Pistol EDIT: Actually the original design was the IMP-221[/QUOTE] Originally intended for Helicopter pilots to provide covering fire when picking up or dropping off troops. Cool thing about its that the receiver can pivot on the barrel so you can shoot left or right handed. The receiver would pivot to one side so the mage would rest on the inside of your forearm. It also came with sights that pivoted too, but those were shit. The was also a top ejecting design so I hope you have goggles on when you shoot it. How you fired it, for a pilot, you would cant the reciever to the appropriate side, brace the rear of the receiver on your bicep of the firing hand, and point shoot/hip fire. A semi auto variant exists but they are hard to come by and expensive. If you look closely at the Old Bushmaster logo, you can see the ARM pistol in the snake. [IMG]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg143/imp-221_1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.googlepixel.com/images/bushylogo.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50334805]Originally intended for Helicopter pilots to provide covering fire when picking up or dropping off troops. Cool thing about its that the receiver can pivot on the barrel so you can shoot left or right handed. The receiver would pivot to one side so the mage would rest on the inside of your forearm. It also came with sights that pivoted too, but those were shit. The was also a top ejecting design so I hope you have goggles on when you shoot it. How you fired it, for a pilot, you would cant the reciever to the appropriate side, brace the rear of the receiver on your bicep of the firing hand, and point shoot/hip fire. A semi auto variant exists but they are hard to come by and expensive. If you look closely at the Old Bushmaster logo, you can see the ARM pistol in the snake. [IMG]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg143/imp-221_1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.googlepixel.com/images/bushylogo.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I really wish someone had pursued turning the Arm Pistol into a full-on bullpup AR, that would have been pretty neat to see.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50334805]Originally intended for Helicopter pilots to provide covering fire when picking up or dropping off troops. Cool thing about its that the receiver can pivot on the barrel so you can shoot left or right handed. The receiver would pivot to one side so the mage would rest on the inside of your forearm. It also came with sights that pivoted too, but those were shit. The was also a top ejecting design so I hope you have goggles on when you shoot it. [/QUOTE] Source? Not that I dont believe you, just never heard of that as the specific use case for the Arm Pistol
[QUOTE=Sableye;50329868]There would be, tanks already do it, and aircraft probably have automatic chaif launchers, helicopters probably have even better optics. I wonder if anyone has tried to outfit helicopters with those anti-missile shot launchers that they have for tanks[/QUOTE] You can't outfit aircraft with stuff like the Trophy system, since Anti Tank missiles rely on actually making physical contact with the vehicle. Where as AA missiles are giant shotguns in the air, and rely on getting as many small contact points on the vehicle as possible.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;50335056]Source? Not that I dont believe you, just never heard of that as the specific use case for the Arm Pistol[/QUOTE] That's because it's basically the IMP 221 rechambered to use the 5.56. Now as for it actual usefulness, it's quite useless due to it's shitty sights and no other practical way to stabilize it. It was meant to be survival gun, but it would only be good for room clearing and not securing food. Really it would only be good for covering fire in typical combat scenarios. [URL="http://machinesforwar.blogspot.com/2011/02/imp-221-guu-4p-submachine-gun.html"]http://machinesforwar.blogspot.com/2011/02/imp-221-guu-4p-submachine-gun.html[/URL] [URL="http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/imp-221-guu-4--p-e.html"]http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/imp-221-guu-4--p-e.html[/URL] [URL="https://warisboring.com/u-s-bomber-crews-tested-a-tiny-assault-rifle-f3118a9ca662#.r5yvhkw74"]https://warisboring.com/u-s-bomber-crews-tested-a-tiny-assault-rifle-f3118a9ca662#.r5yvhkw74[/URL] Think of it as an early PDW. In the book [U]Pictorial History of the Sub-Machine Gun[/U] by F.W.A. Hobart, they list it as an the title suggests, an SMG. A chopped AR-18 called the AR-18S is considered an SMG, but by today's standards it would be a carbine. The book has quite a few interesting SMG designs that are near impossible to find on the internet like the Hill SMG, a gun that has a similar mag system to the P90 but in 9mm and feed from the front and not the rear.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;50335247]You can't outfit aircraft with stuff like the Trophy system, since Anti Tank missiles rely on actually making physical contact with the vehicle. Where as AA missiles are giant shotguns in the air, and rely on getting as many small contact points on the vehicle as possible.[/QUOTE] Right, forgot about that, you'd have to intercept it far away from the helicopter for it to work which can't be done by trophy because it's a big shotgun itself
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It has two stocks?
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