It depends how hard they were dropped as a child.
I fell of the kitchen counter at age 4 and I blame that on why I'm a furry digitard. :350:
Communism isn't evil and twisted bois :downs:
The people who usually lead it are.
Usually it's something chemically wrong that causes things like pedophilia.
I'm going to get killed for this but physically there's nothing wrong with pedophilia. That's not to say it's not a horrible, immoral and damaging thing. I'm just saying the damage is emotional and psychological and therefore subjective; it's a byproduct of our society. Many other societies throughout history have completely accepted pedophilia and often seen it as a positive thing. In these societies it caused no damage. In ours it does, so it's still entirely inexcusable.
This is probably the most disgusting example of the effects of pedophilia I've ever read:
[url]http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,987156-1,00.html[/url]
Here's the kid's website:
[url]http://anon27.tripod.com/XSpaceboy1/sam.html[/url]
It's really sad. It looks like he was just a really lonely kid and tried to find companionship in all the wrong places. I highly doubt that's his actual girlfriend too.
well its because they like having sex with kids just like you would the people you like having sex with
also its because they played twisted metal when they were young
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[QUOTE=nicatronTg;24632854]Usually it's something chemically wrong that causes things like pedophilia.[/QUOTE]
no chemicals have nothing to do with it and people always blame the bad things people do on stupid stuff like this. its the environment that does it
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[QUOTE=MIPS;24632640]It depends how hard they were dropped as a child.
I fell of the kitchen counter at age 4 and I blame that on why I'm a furry digitard. :350:[/QUOTE]
no its because you got sick of normal females
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[QUOTE=CowThing;24632023]I don't understand humans at all. I don't know why people do the things they do, I don't know why stupid people keep being stupid when answers are so obvious. This is why I'm antisocial.[/QUOTE]
read a book and then you will know
Cause people were brought up in shitty environments and take it out on the world.
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24633683]I'm going to get killed for this but physically there's nothing wrong with pedophilia. That's not to say it's not a horrible, immoral and damaging thing. I'm just saying the damage is emotional and psychological and therefore subjective; it's a byproduct of our society. Many other societies throughout history have completely accepted pedophilia and often seen it as a positive thing. In these societies it caused no damage. In ours it does, so it's still entirely inexcusable.[/QUOTE]
Well it really depends on how pedophilia is defined in my opinion, sure many cultures have allowed things similar in nature to pedophilia but that is usually only if you include the 12-17 crowd, anything below that line can be much, much worse psychologically and also i disagree that the emotional and psychological tolls are subjective, no matter what society you live in this can warp and distort a child's mind in a way that they will cause trauma to others in the future.
Damaging? yes, but its much worse then JUST damaging that one person, that person will go on to damage more people and so on and so on, most people don't think that way but it is true i assure you.
Perhaps not all pedophiles are aware of that, but if they are and are continuing to ignore it then it is indeed very wrong, in a very non-subjective way.
Back to the question of age, why below 12? well at that age a childs mind is still developing, having sex with older adults above that age can be damaging but not nearly as much as below that line.
Adults having sex with children above 12 can still be immoral and it can still be an abuse of authority, trust and can end up traumatizing the individual but i must stress that, trauma induced before that age (not just pedophilia) can lead to serious mental instability. The big ones, depression, suicide or just plain recreating the traumas they experienced before with new people to continue the cycle of abuse.
Causing depression/suicide is only wrong subjectively if you don't consider humans to hold any value, in which case you might have a mental disorder yourself, lol.
They have a chemical imbalance in their brain most refer to as being "insane"
Its just the way they think, Everyone is different.
[QUOTE=johnnyIERB;24634757]They have a chemical imbalance in their brain most refer to as being "insane"[/QUOTE]
study show insane peoples brain and normal peoples brain are kinda the same
being crazy is more like being in a religion
[QUOTE=s0beit;24634655]
Causing depression/suicide is only wrong subjectively if you don't consider humans to hold any value, in which case you might have a mental disorder yourself, lol.[/QUOTE]
Uh... no. You obviously don't get it. In those societies it wouldn't have caused depression/suicide and it wasn't considered a breach of trust. In those cases, it's a positive social and emotional relationship. Therefore it doesn't cause any damage. In our society it's considered a negative relationship and so it is.
Regarding more generally why people do what they do, free will is an impossibility if reality is entirely causal. I would assume that to be the case if it weren't for the irrationality of quantum physics.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24634803]study show insane peoples brain and normal peoples brain are kinda the same
being crazy is more like being in a religion[/QUOTE]
Psychological damage isn't tangible, their brains would probably operate the same but it is the information contained within the brain that is important.
Things are programmed into you since childhood, such as:
"What is the role of an ideal partner for me?"
When somebody is exposed to sex that early you could see why that can get confusing.
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24634992]Uh... no. You obviously don't get it. In those societies it wouldn't have caused depression/suicide and it wasn't considered a breach of trust. In those cases, it's a positive social and emotional relationship. Therefore it doesn't cause any damage. In our society it's considered a negative relationship and so it is.
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That is fine and everything but psychology didn't really have a stable footing back then, there is really no way to measure the effects it actually had on people.
I get what you are saying, i guess what i am saying is "prove it", and by "it" i mean that they were psychologically stable.
[QUOTE=s0beit;24635333]Psychological damage isn't tangible, their brains would probably operate the same but it is the information contained within the brain that is important.
Things are programmed into you since childhood, such as:
"What is the role of an ideal partner for me?"
When somebody is exposed to sex that early you could see why that can get confusing.
That is fine and everything but psychology didn't really have a stable footing back then, there is really no way to measure the effects it actually had on people.
I get what you are saying, i guess what i am saying is "prove it", and by "it" i mean that they were psychologically stable.[/QUOTE]
I'd point and laugh at how silly and uninformed everything you've been saying so far has been, but you were cool in that Mafia 2 thread, so I won't.
[QUOTE=s0beit;24635333]Psychological damage isn't tangible, their brains would probably operate the same but it is the information contained within the brain that is important.
Things are programmed into you since childhood, such as:
"What is the role of an ideal partner for me?"
When somebody is exposed to sex that early you could see why that can get confusing.
That is fine and everything but psychology didn't really have a stable footing back then, there is really no way to measure the effects it actually had on people.
I get what you are saying, i guess what i am saying is "prove it", and by "it" i mean that they were psychologically stable.[/QUOTE]
There's no evidence to prove that it did cause damage either. The best available method of finding out is logic, and logically it didn't. Also the absence of any records suggesting that it did cause damage suggests that it didn't.
Also, many animals do whatever the hell they want sexually and don't suffer for it. This supports the idea that the damage is a result of social constructions.
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24635427]There's no evidence to prove that it did cause damage either. The best available method of finding out is logic, and logically it didn't. Also the absence of any records suggesting that it did cause damage suggests that it didn't.
Also, many animals do whatever the hell they want sexually and don't suffer for it. This supports the idea that the damage is a result of social constructions.[/QUOTE]
I saw a horse making love to a fence once
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24635462]I saw a horse making love to a fence once[/QUOTE]
I bet that horse enjoyed it. If a human made love to a fence there'd be serious social repercussions causing emotional and psychological damage.
[QUOTE=Riutet;24635387]I'd point and laugh at how silly and uninformed everything you've been saying so far has been, but you were cool in that Mafia 2 thread, so I won't.[/QUOTE]
I would like a specific example however, i have tried to explain psychological mechanisms in such a way everyone would understand (or care about, once it gets complicated believe me it also gets boring), can you point me to a specific instance?
The only one i can think of is you disagree with the post about suicide but most things i believe i have been fairly accurate about.
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24635480]I bet that horse enjoyed it. If a human made love to a fence there'd be serious social repercussions causing emotional and psychological damage.[/QUOTE]
not unless no one was watching
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24635583]not unless no one was watching[/QUOTE]
Actually they probably would harbor some kind of guilt and I wouldn't be surprised if it had some influence on their self-esteem even if nobody else saw it.
Then there's the fact that the fence-fucker would have to be pretty messed up already to even do that which brings up a whole chicken and the egg conundrum.
Who knew sex with fences could be such an interesting topic?
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24635711]Actually they probably would harbor some kind of guilt and I wouldn't be surprised if it had some influence on their self-esteem even if nobody else saw it.
Then there's the fact that the fence-fucker would have to be pretty messed up already to even do that which brings up a whole chicken and the egg conundrum.
Who knew sex with fences could be such an interesting topic?[/QUOTE]
everything you are saying now is what i was going to say but since you already said it i cant be the smart one :(
[QUOTE=BobFrank;24635711]Actually they probably would harbor some kind of guilt and I wouldn't be surprised if it had some influence on their self-esteem even if nobody else saw it.
Then there's the fact that the fence-fucker would have to be pretty messed up already to even do that which brings up a whole chicken and the egg conundrum.
Who knew sex with fences could be such an interesting topic?[/QUOTE]
That horse was obviously molested by a fence.
[QUOTE=s0beit;24635761]That horse was obviously molested by a fence.[/QUOTE]
and he wanted to get back at it? when i rape girls they dont get back at me and rape me
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;24635767]and he wanted to get back at it? when i rape girls they dont get back at me and rape me[/QUOTE]
No see the horse was psychologically damaged by its encounter with the fence, thus causing it to recreate that trauma by being sexually attracted to fences.
UNDERAGE FENCES!
[QUOTE=s0beit;24635784]No see the horse was psychologically damaged by its encounter with the fence, thus causing it to recreate that trauma by being sexually attracted to fences.
UNDERAGE FENCES![/QUOTE]
oh no D:
People suck. Get used to it
[quote=s0beit;24635761]that horse was obviously molested by a fence.[/quote]
[b]Burn uncle fence at the stake![/b]
people need to start seeing a pshyciatrist
Some people just like young, small, hot, raging little boy dick I guess. There's really nothing wrong with that, it's just taboo in society nowadays. There's just GOT to be something wrong with you if you like that kind of stuff. [sp]No, I'm not writing this from prison if you're wondering[/sp]
Because we're animals, and far down we only do whatever we feel like.
[QUOTE=Afgman;24631935]Well, my entire life I always had an idea that people like pedophiles had no control over what they did. That their brains are programmed to do this or something. Is this true? Kind of disturbing how pedophila is a mental disorder...[/QUOTE]
Everyone has control over what they are and what they want to be, unless you're born with a mental handicap or the like.
This concept that you're born an evil or bad person is retarded.
Other then that humans are generally assholes which is why they do sick things.
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