[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16851402]The problem with this statement is that you're grouping a number of different reactions together as "hating the opposing view".
That means you're grouping people who disagree and then show exactly why the other is wrong with people who cross their eyes and yell "dat maeks u a nazi rasist".[/QUOTE]
No, they disagree yet they "pitch" for their side the same way sometimes.
Dell advertises using commercials, HP advertises using commercials. Are they the same computer manufacturer?
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851383]He started his career with and studied the works of socialists
I don't think Obama's a Nazi, but why did he bow to the Saudi King, then refuse to even look at Netanyahu (Israeli Prime Minister)?
Fascism is pretty much socialism
The whole 'born in Kenya' thing is dumb, neither side has enough evidence for anything[/QUOTE]
See, this is what I'm talking about.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851445]MY GOD
Maybe they're fearful BECAUSE THE FACTS HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE ALL ALONG[/QUOTE]
why should they be afraid, they carry their guns with them everywhere
you never know when you're going to need it, especially at peaceful protests and places where the president will be
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851445]MY GOD
Maybe they're fearful BECAUSE THE FACTS HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE ALL ALONG[/QUOTE]
That made no sense, stop lying to yourself. You know damn well that the "heat" over the health care debate comes mostly from people making up bullshit like Death panels and health rationing, and making lies about other public health systems, that are actually very good.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851453]Not from a dictionary.
Those are my own words.[/QUOTE]
congratulations. if you feel this way at all, would you mind explaining how exactly President Obama is a communist? or how the democratic party is communist? i for one have no idea how a party itself could be communist, as a political party isn't even a government to begin with, but if you feel as such, i leave that open to you to explain.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;16851485]They're not really socialist though.[/QUOTE]
They started killing jews over bank money control. I highly agree
[b]If dat aint communism, I don't know what is![/b]
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851383]He started his career with and studied the works of socialists
I don't think Obama's a Nazi, but why did he bow to the Saudi King, then refuse to even look at Netanyahu (Israeli Prime Minister)?
Fascism is pretty much socialism
The whole 'born in Kenya' thing is dumb, neither side has enough evidence for anything[/QUOTE]
I've studied the works of socialists too. That doesn't make me a socialist.
And no, Fascism is not socialism. Socialism doesn't advocate "perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak" among other things.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851475]Nazi = short for National Socialist German Worker's party.[/QUOTE]
For fucks sake.
You can't be serious.
[QUOTE=It.;16851464]prove it[/QUOTE]
I heard you like proof.
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[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851475]Nazi = short for National Socialist German Worker's party.[/QUOTE]
Because names equal actions
especially were what can only be described as an evil dictatorship is involved.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851475]Nazi = short for National Socialist German Worker's party.[/QUOTE]
Nazional socialistische deutche arbeitspartei or something in german, isn't it?
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851527]I heard you like proof.
[media]http://i29.tinypic.com/rk60j9.png[/media][/QUOTE]
i see it right there.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851475]Nazi = short for National Socialist German Worker's party.[/QUOTE]
no it isn't. it's based on it, but it's not the same thing, nor does it mean/is short for it
[QUOTE=OvB;16851478]In defense of the reps, calling a group of obviously pissed protesters and totally disregarding what they have to say, whether its bullshit or not, is extremely fucked up. Especially when your their [I][B]Representative[/B][/I] Your JOB is to defend the word of the people in your state/community, not act on your own ideals.
Let's not forget now the dems had their fair share of rowdy protests.
And Nancy Pelosi is a fucking senile bitch who deserves to loose her job.[/QUOTE]
That's debatable, a lot of people think that Politicians know a lot more than the public, and should take their needs into consideration, because the power of the mob overrules most rational discussion. I remember reading about a philosopher in AP Government who thought like that.
I am not attacking the representives, I am attacking the people fueling this bullshit fire.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16851551]That's debatable, a lot of people think that Politicians know a lot more than the public, and should take their needs into consideration, because the power of the mob overrules most rational discussion. I remember reading about a philosopher in AP Government who thought like that.
I am not attacking the representives, I am attacking the people fueling this bullshit fire.[/QUOTE]
Really, most protesters aren't exactly rational folk. That's because stupid people will protest anything if you throw enough dangerous words at them.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16851505]That made no sense, stop lying to yourself. You know damn well that the "heat" over the health care debate comes mostly from people making up bullshit like Death panels and health rationing, and making lies about other public health systems, that are actually very good.[/QUOTE]
The 'death panels' will become reality, as will rationed healthcare, if this bill goes through. The government has LIMITED MONEY to spend ON ALOT OF PEOPLE with VERY COSTLY CONDITIONS.
The government can't just keep printing money. That's making things worse. This [I]must[/I] end at some point. What happens when China collects on the debt we have to them? Hm? How will we pay them? By printing more money? [U][I]Hell no.[/I][/U] Something's going to need to be cut. And if it would cost $2 trillion, as the CBO says, to cover a third of the uninsured each year, and 10% of all people in this country don't have health insurance, then it would cost about $66 trillion to put everyone on this plan [I]each year[/I].
[B][U][I]IT CANNOT BE DONE.[/I][/U][/B] The entire world doesn't make that much money each year. How the hell will we spend it each year?
I guess so, since they are generally enraged about something. Being angered is bad, it's just like Yoda said. It anger makes people hate things, and it clouds their judgement.
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851594]The 'death panels' will become reality, as will rationed healthcare, if this bill goes through. The government has LIMITED MONEY to spend ON ALOT OF PEOPLE with VERY COSTLY CONDITIONS.
The government can't just keep printing money. That's making things worse. This [I]must[/I] end at some point. What happens when China collects on the debt we have to them? Hm? How will we pay them? By printing more money? [U][I]Hell no.[/I][/U] Something's going to need to be cut. And if it would cost $2 trillion, as the CBO says, to cover a third of the uninsured each year, and 10% of all people in this country don't have health insurance, then it would cost about $66 trillion to put everyone on this plan [I]each year[/I].
[B][U][I]IT CANNOT BE DONE.[/I][/U][/B] The entire world doesn't make that much money each year. How the hell will we spend it each year?[/QUOTE]
wish you rightwing nut jobs would've said the same thing about the war
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;16851496]why should they be afraid, they carry their guns with them everywhere
you never know when you're going to need it, especially at peaceful protests and places where the president will be[/QUOTE]
Because somebody has completely shot somebody at a townhall meeting
OH WAIT
I think you need to read up on HR 45
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851594]The 'death panels' will become reality, as will rationed healthcare, if this bill goes through. The government has LIMITED MONEY to spend ON ALOT OF PEOPLE with VERY COSTLY CONDITIONS.
The government can't just keep printing money. That's making things worse. This [I]must[/I] end at some point. What happens when China collects on the debt we have to them? Hm? How will we pay them? By printing more money? [U][I]Hell no.[/I][/U] Something's going to need to be cut. And if it would cost $2 trillion, as the CBO says, to cover a third of the uninsured each year, and 10% of all people in this country don't have health insurance, then it would cost about $66 trillion to put everyone on this plan [I]each year[/I].
[B][U][I]IT CANNOT BE DONE.[/I][/U][/B] The entire world doesn't make that much money each year. How the hell will we spend it each year?[/QUOTE]
I'd like you to show me exactly where in the bill it promotes "death panels".
And where you get the figures of 66 trillion a year.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16851588]Really, most protesters aren't exactly rational folk. That's because stupid people will protest anything if you throw enough dangerous words at them.[/QUOTE]
[b]It's because people are scared[/b]
They haven't researched anything and start making picket signs of obama as hitler and start protesting with the argument "OBAMA IS TEH SOCIALIST ANTICHRIST!"
They are the real life trolls, idiots, /facepalm.
Can you please tell me which wing is the democrats and which one is the republicans?
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;16851607]wish you rightwing nut jobs would've said the same thing about the war[/QUOTE]
only the Iraq War didn't cost us $66 trillion per year
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851594]The 'death panels' will become reality, as will rationed healthcare, if this bill goes through. The government has LIMITED MONEY to spend ON ALOT OF PEOPLE with VERY COSTLY CONDITIONS.
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Sorry, the death panels are an idea to frighten people into being opposed to this bill. Why oppose it? Insurance companies have a ton to lose, and a ton of money with lobbyists in DC.
[QUOTE=Mister Cool;16851629]Can you please tell me which wing is the democrats and which one is the republicans?[/QUOTE]
conservatives are right
liberals are wrong
i mean left
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[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851631]only the Iraq War didn't cost us $66 trillion per year[/QUOTE]
neither has obama
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16851551]That's debatable, a lot of people think that Politicians know a lot more than the public, and should take their needs into consideration, because the power of the mob overrules most rational discussion. I remember reading about a philosopher in AP Government who thought like that.
I am not attacking the representives, I am attacking the people fueling this bullshit fire.[/QUOTE]
Ok, but it would be nice if the politicians actually listened to their citizens. After all they were the ones you put you into office, if you treat them like total shit who are not worth your time, I guarantee you will never see another term in your life. It would be great if they listened to what people had to say. At least pretend like you are. Not calling them Nazis and Racists and kicking them out of town hall meetings.
It's not about what they have to say, it's about the fact that it's your job to [I]listen[/I] to what they have to say. You don't have to implement it. Just listen.
[QUOTE=Mister Cool;16851629]Can you please tell me which wing is the democrats and which one is the republicans?[/QUOTE]
Serious post?
Republicans are generally conservatives are right wing
Democrats are generally liberals are left wing
Sometimes (usually) people will get a little of the opposite side mixed in to their primary political side.
As for me I generally get called a right winger by lefties and a lefty by right wingers. Reason is because people like to see where you're "wrong."
[QUOTE=It.;16851635]conservatives are right
liberals are wrong
[/QUOTE]
You really hate liberals don't you?
[QUOTE={FP}ST;16851594]The 'death panels' will become reality, as will rationed healthcare, if this bill goes through. The government has LIMITED MONEY to spend ON ALOT OF PEOPLE with VERY COSTLY CONDITIONS.
The government can't just keep printing money. That's making things worse. This [I]must[/I] end at some point. What happens when China collects on the debt we have to them? Hm? How will we pay them? By printing more money? [U][I]Hell no.[/I][/U] Something's going to need to be cut. And if it would cost $2 trillion, as the CBO says, to cover a third of the uninsured each year, and 10% of all people in this country don't have health insurance, then it would cost about $66 trillion to put everyone on this plan [I]each year[/I].
[B][U][I]IT CANNOT BE DONE.[/I][/U][/B] The entire world doesn't make that much money each year. How the hell will we spend it each year?[/QUOTE]
you have no idea what the bill even says, it has nothing to do with "death panels"
[QUOTE=jjsullivan;16851673]You really hate liberals don't you?[/QUOTE]
nah they are furry and cuddly and should be accepting of who i am so why would i hate them
[QUOTE=ImOnTheBall;16851666]Serious post?
Republicans are generally conservatives are right wing
Democrats are generally liberals are left wing
Sometimes people will get a little of the opposite side mixed in to their primary political side.[/QUOTE]
people live in other countries ya know
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